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  1. Slow Climb for Johnson? hes only 21 and hes in AA and hes doing great! Hes a strikeout machine and i wouldnt be suprised if he becomes a number 3 pitcher or number 2 because not only can he strike people out with his great stuff but he has has a lot of deception in his delivery.

    Comment by Matthew — August 6, 2009 @ 1:04 pm

  2. Whoa…are the guys the Mariners picked up for Betancourt really in the top seven? Or are they excluded for some reason?

    Comment by djw — August 6, 2009 @ 1:08 pm

  3. The Betancourt trade occurred 9 days before I cut off the coverage at July 19 with the Felipe Lopez trade.

    Comment by Marc Hulet — August 6, 2009 @ 1:51 pm

  4. “and a strikeout rate of 7.54 BB/9″ ???

    How does one strikeout a walk rate?

    Comment by Brooksy Boy — August 6, 2009 @ 2:12 pm

  5. Dumb question. Is FIP listed on player pages for minor league stats adjusted for what the major league FIP would be?

    Comment by Nate — August 6, 2009 @ 2:29 pm

  6. Will the Nationals only have one of the three (or four, I can’t remember off the top of my head) minor leaguers they received for both Johnson and Beimel ranked?

    Comment by Big Oil — August 6, 2009 @ 2:29 pm

  7. Please, dear God, do not put Brett Wallace at #1 on this list.

    Comment by Wrighteous — August 6, 2009 @ 2:51 pm

  8. Fangraphs is retarded. How can Ryan Mattheus and Robinson Fabian top 7 prospects traded in the deadline? They are fringe prospects.

    Comment by pm — August 6, 2009 @ 3:04 pm

  9. I have trouble believing that Marson and Roenicke are better prospects than Luke French, who already has had major-league success and pitched reasonably well last night.

    Comment by Shush — August 6, 2009 @ 3:09 pm

  10. I think you’ve properly rated Barnes here. There isn’t much not to like with his statistical track record. As a Giants fan, I HATE the Barnes-Garko trade. Garko can’t hit righties, and I think Jesus Guzman is a better hitter anyway. I think this trade should have been more widely panned.

    Comment by fletchdm — August 6, 2009 @ 3:19 pm

  11. Marson was highly ranked by most, if not all, prospect publications entering the year and he’s taken a hit, but he still has potential… Roenicke’s ceiling as a closer is higher than French’s as a No. 4 or 5 starter.

    As for the Beimel trade… it was the one trade I overlooked when making the list. Neither Fabian nor Mattheus would have ranked high. They would have been in the 37-32 range. If the two players had been included to go 37 strong, than Fabian (23 yrs old, 105 hits in 83 IP in low-A) would have been 36 in front of Rottino and Mattheus (middle reliever upside, poor secondary stuff, shoulder woes but nice GB rates) would have been 35.

    Comment by Marc Hulet — August 6, 2009 @ 4:01 pm

  12. Marc, you almost always lead with hits and innings for minor league pitchers. I’m just curious about this — is there a reason not to focus solely on K, BB, and HR?

    Comment by Matt — August 6, 2009 @ 5:44 pm

  13. why? cause he was a former boston prospect and everyone in the world is in love with boston????

    Comment by Matthew — August 6, 2009 @ 5:47 pm

  14. By the way, not a criticism. I love your posts and read them avidly. I was just wondering because I get the impression from the rest of the site that this way of measuring pitching success is no longer used. Is there something different about the minors?

    Comment by Matt — August 6, 2009 @ 5:47 pm

  15. I would have to go back and check, but…

    there seems to be a NL->AL trend for these deals.

    Comment by R.Dwyer — August 6, 2009 @ 9:21 pm

  16. I’m already surprised that Hagadone would be in the top 7, seeing that Stewart isn’t. I’m not that familiar with all the other traded prospects, though, but that seems quite strange to me.

    Comment by Judy — August 7, 2009 @ 8:45 am

  17. Most scouts seem to think he doesn’t have great stuff, which is what keeps him from being more highly rated. Let’s hope the deception continues to work for him, I’m psyched to see another quality pitcher in the Orioles organization.

    Comment by Tim — August 7, 2009 @ 9:44 am

  18. Why would Cleveland trade for Marson if they have Santana waiting in the wings?

    Comment by Phil — August 7, 2009 @ 11:21 am

  19. I think Cleveland wanted Marson just-in-case Santana needs to move positions at some point. Much like I expect my Orioles to take a few catchers in the next couple of drafts in the event they decide Wieters needs to move to 1B.

    Comment by Drew — August 7, 2009 @ 11:41 am

  20. Why wouldn’t they take whoever were the best prospects being offered to them regardless of position or need?

    Comment by Judy — August 7, 2009 @ 11:59 am

  21. A closer is more valuable than a #4 starter?

    Ladies and gentlemen, the 21st century, where a pitcher who throws 60 innings a year tops and is rated by an arbitrarily defined stat than can only be earned in a certain inning is considered harder to find than a guy who can throw 180+ innings a year. Sigh.

    Comment by daniel — August 7, 2009 @ 12:56 pm

  22. I’m not sure exactly that Marc was saying that, but I’d agree that the “closer” is an overvalued role on a baseball team.

    How do you even rate guys at that position? Hell, I’d rather the credit go to the swing guy who pitched the starter out of a jam in the 6th or 7th innings instead of a guy that comes on with none on in the 9th. We’re only talking about three outs here!

    Comment by Andrew — August 8, 2009 @ 11:11 pm

  23. Let’s wait a few years before we argue about how these prospects have been ranked, shall we? Marson, Stewart, Hagadone : I’ll tell you for pretty certain in 2019.

    Comment by TimberLee — August 10, 2009 @ 3:02 pm

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