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  1. Sergio Romo and Sergio Santos have pretty effective sliders as well

    Comment by Justin — February 14, 2012 @ 12:07 pm

  2. Thanks for picking out the Kershaw sliders for us… I had to listen to the video twice, watch the radar, and put the clip on mute to make sure :)

    Comment by baty — February 14, 2012 @ 12:40 pm

  3. …kicked off*…

    Comment by AJP — February 14, 2012 @ 12:51 pm

  4. Going forward, can you include 5 or so guys who just missed the list?

    Comment by Damien — February 14, 2012 @ 1:13 pm

  5. Interesting: SP sliders very slurvey, eh? I think Bumgarner’s (harder) slider warrants consideration despite the whiff rate. Just his ability to toss it for strikes and the trouble batters have putting together solid contact provides an interesting contrast to the “wipe out” slider. I really have no clue how many sliders Bumgarner threw that were fouled off and resulted in a 0 because of an X-and-2 count, but I’d be curious to know. I’m still trying to sort out in my brain whether or not we’re evaluating the isolated outcome of a pitch or it’s ability to prevent runs.

    Comment by Kris — February 14, 2012 @ 1:40 pm

  6. Aroldis Chapman has to be on this list. Nastiest slider since the Unit.

    Comment by Glenn Braggs — February 14, 2012 @ 1:46 pm

  7. Romo’s slider is definitely a lot better than the pure pitchf/x numbers would indicate as it is the sole reason his 90mph fastball had the 2nd best wFB/C among all pitchers with at least 40 innings thrown (it’s also worth noting that he was only beaten by Rivera, who barely even threw his fastball last year). That’s when you know you have a dominate pitch (specifically in Romo and Rivera’s case too), when the anticipation of it makes all your other pitches equally dominating pitches.

    Comment by Greg — February 14, 2012 @ 2:04 pm

  8. I hate to be the guy to ask this but does anyone else find it frustrating to watch Dodger games because of Vin Scully? Constantly mispronouncing names, saying wrong players, not calling right pitches (first 2 K’s in Kershaw’s video he gets wrong)

    I like the pace and his endless supply of stories, but I’m hoping I’m not the only Fangraphs reader who feels this way.

    Also, loved the article, as the last one…..going to be a good week here.

    Comment by Anthony — February 14, 2012 @ 2:51 pm

  9. But he has no idea where it’s going to end up once he throws it.

    Comment by Michael — February 14, 2012 @ 2:53 pm

  10. This is a great series. Does the average horizontal movement value for all pitchers account for pitcher handedness? In other words, does the average slider move +1.9 for righties and -1.9 for lefties or is this an average of all positive and negative values? Should Venters’ average H-move be -2.8?

    Comment by MrBennettar — February 14, 2012 @ 2:54 pm

  11. Dude’s 84…I think I’ll give him a break

    Comment by Michael — February 14, 2012 @ 2:54 pm

  12. There seems to be a sudden SERGE of honorable mentions, here.
    kthxbai

    Comment by Michael — February 14, 2012 @ 2:56 pm

  13. gregg holland also throws a splitter which can be confusing, i believe the second SO on his video was on a splitter.

    Comment by radicalhenri — February 14, 2012 @ 3:07 pm

  14. I prefer his announcing to almost anyone else’s, occasional mislabeled pitches aside.

    Comment by Bip — February 14, 2012 @ 4:26 pm

  15. You’ll be hard-pressed to find many readers who are frustrated with Vin Scully. There are several broadcasters who could learn a thing or two from him.

    Comment by MrBennettar — February 14, 2012 @ 5:02 pm

  16. RotoGraphs had an article about Holland on Friday where I posed the question of how FanGraphs classifies his splitter, but there was no response. It could very likely be listed as a slider.

    Comment by geo — February 14, 2012 @ 5:30 pm

  17. I wouldn’t say Kershaw’s is very slurvey, even though it’s not as hard as Bumgarner’s. According to pfx it has very little vertical movement, and it’s a whole 10 mph faster than his curveball.

    Comment by Bip — February 14, 2012 @ 6:46 pm

  18. Totally agree.

    Comment by Anthony — February 14, 2012 @ 8:49 pm

  19. Al Albuquerque was throwing some insanely snappy sliders before his elbow shredded…..

    Comment by Tim — February 16, 2012 @ 12:38 am

  20. Completely disagree. Beyond being a legend, that voice IS baseball to me. If he misses counts sometimes, oh well. He could read me the phone book and I’d be peachy.

    Comment by JoeC — February 16, 2012 @ 12:52 pm

  21. thumbs way down for you, sir.

    Vin Scully is still amazing to listen to, even with getting names wrong. Hawk Harrellson probably gets most of the names right but that doesn’t make him any good. Vin Scully is probably the anti-Hawk because he is with the Dodgers but 95% of the time calls the game right down the middle, which is pretty refreshing with all the horribly biased announcers there are now.

    Comment by Ivdown — February 22, 2012 @ 2:16 pm

  22. what about Marmol?

    Comment by jason — February 22, 2012 @ 11:57 pm

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