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  1. In 1100 career PAs, he has accumulated 9.4 WAR. In

    Matt Diaz has 1900 career PAs and 6.0 WAR.

    Comment by TomahawkChopper — March 30, 2012 @ 2:41 pm

  2. Livan Hernandez has literally pitched 6 innings of four run baseball for every team in the majors.

    Comment by Jack — March 30, 2012 @ 2:42 pm

  3. DOB saying Livan is going to the pen and has no effect on the 5th starter race.

    Comment by Josh — March 30, 2012 @ 3:11 pm

  4. That would equate to a career 6.00 ERA.

    He’s more like the prototypical 6 innings of 3 run baseball, which would equate to a 4.50 ERA, not far off from his career 4.39 ERA.

    Comment by Will — March 30, 2012 @ 3:12 pm

  5. Livan for HOF

    Comment by adohaj — March 30, 2012 @ 3:13 pm

  6. Yea but what if he pitches 6 innings of 4 run baseball then the next game pitches 6 innings of 2 run baseball!??

    Comment by adohaj — March 30, 2012 @ 3:16 pm

  7. Why use the word ‘literally’ when you’re saying something that’s not literally true?

    Comment by vivalajeter — March 30, 2012 @ 3:18 pm

  8. Wow. That literally made my head explode.

    Comment by Bronnt — March 30, 2012 @ 3:29 pm

  9. I LITERALLY have never seen a better comment thread.

    Comment by Big Jgke — March 30, 2012 @ 3:35 pm

  10. Jamie Moyer scoffs at youngsters like Livan Hernandez who get by with their fancy fastballs and swinging strikes!

    Comment by Ben — March 30, 2012 @ 3:35 pm

  11. His date of birth tells you all that?

    Comment by Johnny Come Lately — March 30, 2012 @ 3:40 pm

  12. Don’t be stupid, everyone knows Livan does not have a DOB.

    Comment by TK — March 30, 2012 @ 4:05 pm

  13. I didn’t know there was a Hall of Fat.

    Comment by Brandon — March 30, 2012 @ 4:13 pm

  14. Are you saying he is literally illiterate?

    Comment by Nats Fan — March 30, 2012 @ 4:18 pm

  15. Don’t be douche bag! Livan was the near the best pitchers in the game a decade ago. Nobody threw the innings he did. I believe if he has been willing to pitch merely 200 innings rather than 250-270 innings he could have been even more effective and truly dominated.

    Comment by Nats Fan — March 30, 2012 @ 4:21 pm

  16. I wonder if the Phils follow suit, and scoop up Fontenot (just released by SF).

    Comment by Dave S — March 30, 2012 @ 4:30 pm

  17. He has a date of birth officially, but its just 99/99/99

    Comment by Blue — March 30, 2012 @ 4:37 pm

  18. That’s a database joke that’s probably too geeky for even this crowd

    Comment by Blue — March 30, 2012 @ 4:38 pm

  19. Livan is as close to a sure thing 1.5 WAR as a starting pitcher can be! He will easily pitch 180 innings. He never gets hurt. His FIP has been just below 4 the last two seasons. If his experience can help the pitchers around him, and I believe it can, then he is a very good 5th starter. Livan is a master of throwing worthless pitches and still keeping the hitters off balance. He is the best in the game of succeeding with zero stuff. He will always keep a game close. I have no doubt he will be offered several pitching coach positions the day he retires.

    Comment by Nats Fan — March 30, 2012 @ 4:38 pm

  20. As an aside, do you ever scroll up after a comment thread here, see an interesting story on the side, and click it just to find out it is just another worthless “Bleacher Report” article?

    Comment by Blue — March 30, 2012 @ 4:39 pm

  21. Fun comments all around today

    Comment by Eminor3rd — March 30, 2012 @ 4:47 pm

  22. Because it is literally true in a philosophical way. While history cannot show us each particular event, every baseball fans knows exactly what it feels like to watch Livan Hernandez do this to his team.

    Comment by Jack — March 30, 2012 @ 4:57 pm

  23. I am fervently hoping he makes the Rockies rotation. Seriously, if I was a baseball owner, Jamie Moyer would always be a starter. And Johnny Damon would play every day. It would be my personal mission to get mediocre players to hall of fame thresholds.

    Comment by mikesavino85 — March 30, 2012 @ 5:15 pm

  24. he’ll also serve as pinch hitter when chipper gets hurt.

    Comment by doffbhoya123 — March 30, 2012 @ 5:21 pm

  25. Earned Runs and runs are not the same. FIP works well for Livan as his career FIP is 4.39 and his ERA is 4.38.

    Comment by Shane H — March 30, 2012 @ 5:21 pm

  26. The Braves rotation issues look alot like the 1B, OF, DH issue in ANGELS camp.

    Comment by Shane H — March 30, 2012 @ 5:28 pm

  27. Can he play LF? Can’t be worse out there than that Hinske/Diaz combination.

    Comment by TomahawkChopper — March 30, 2012 @ 5:29 pm

  28. y u no have sense of humor?

    Comment by jim — March 30, 2012 @ 6:03 pm

  29. 1.5 WAR is more than most of the projected Orioles rotation.

    Comment by piccamo — March 30, 2012 @ 6:16 pm

  30. Wow. That last comment was Literally the smartest thing everyone has ever said.

    Comment by Chris Trager — March 30, 2012 @ 6:26 pm

  31. Too often

    Comment by Bronnt — March 30, 2012 @ 8:43 pm

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    Comment by PeterMolinari — March 30, 2012 @ 9:58 pm

  33. Granted, the replacement level for hitting pitchers is comically low, but that’s still awesome.

    Comment by Ian R. — March 30, 2012 @ 10:25 pm

  34. Seconded.

    Comment by bstar — March 31, 2012 @ 12:36 am

  35. I can’t help wondering if the Braves brought him in as much to work with Teheran and Delgado as to give them an insurance policy against them. Certainly they assume Hernandez will have additional value as a second pitching coach and mentor for their young Hispanic pitchers. Who better to help refine a couple guys with strong raw talent than a guy who has kept his career alive with smarts years after his stuff left him?

    Comment by steex — March 31, 2012 @ 1:59 am

  36. this is a brilliant article. thank you for your work.

    Comment by Walter Zink — March 31, 2012 @ 3:20 am

  37. That is an excellent point-I have long thought when Livan’s pitching days are over that he is going to make a fine pitching coach. Anyone who continuously makes the adjustments to stay on the mound like he has, has got to know pitching. Until he retires, he can certainly serve the role as mentor.

    Comment by jirish — March 31, 2012 @ 11:27 am

  38. Actually, if that’s Livan in comparison to other pitchers and Diaz in comparison to other outfielders, it doesn’t really mean a blessed thing, then, does it?

    Comment by Richie — March 31, 2012 @ 6:39 pm

  39. Smart people can be awful teachers. It takes much more in the way of various emotional aptitudes than it does an ability to really figure things out for yourself.

    Comment by Richie — March 31, 2012 @ 6:47 pm

  40. Yes?

    Comment by bstar — March 31, 2012 @ 7:36 pm

  41. Yeah, of course that is true. But it’s not as if anyone is saying “Livan is an experienced pitcher so he HAS to be a good pitching coach.” They’re saying that perhaps there is a reason for this signing other than eating up innings.

    Comment by Jay29 — March 31, 2012 @ 10:11 pm

  42. Not one team would complain about that production from a spot starter.

    Comment by winfield wants noise — April 1, 2012 @ 8:14 pm

  43. DC loves Livo. Started the first Nats home game and had a shutout into the 9th inning. Man, he is fun to watch.

    Comment by 44 — April 2, 2012 @ 11:19 am

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