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  1. im guessing the tigers will be the next AL team to go, no?

    cardinals next overall…

    Comment by Daniel — April 2, 2012 @ 2:34 pm

  2. I’m betting on the Nationals next.

    Comment by pogotheostrich — April 2, 2012 @ 3:05 pm

  3. Can we get some rankings to go with the 20-80 grades, similar to the other organizational posts?

    Thanks in advance.

    Comment by Mhad — April 2, 2012 @ 3:55 pm

  4. Cardinals next overall? That would be a surprise, considering their strong ML team and top tier farm system. If Milwaukee and St. Louis are roughly equal in 2012 talent (debatable obviously though every projection I’ve seen has the Cardinals slightly in front), and they have similar financial resources (again, I’d argue St. Louis is slightly in front, but not significantly) then the Cardinals’ huge advantage in future talent should push them at least into the top 10. Possibly the top NL team overall.

    Comment by j — April 2, 2012 @ 3:56 pm

  5. Next three: Giants, Nationals, Braves

    Comment by Will — April 2, 2012 @ 4:15 pm

  6. Worst metro area in all of baseball? I’ve never been to Milwaukee, but I’ve gotta think you meant to say something else. Smallest maybe?

    Comment by JG — April 2, 2012 @ 5:31 pm

  7. Financial resources are weighed very heavily in these rankings. As such, it is not likely that a good but flawed mid-market team will outrank the Phillies, Braves, or possibly even the Nats and Giants.

    Comment by Mhad — April 2, 2012 @ 5:33 pm

  8. You think Arizona is better than all three of those teams?

    Comment by Mhad — April 2, 2012 @ 5:34 pm

  9. Blue Jays probably go before the Tigers, not because of any glaring weakness but because they’ll have a hell of a time ever contending in their division. Rays might also go before the Tigers because of their abysmal money/attendance situation. Isn’t financial resources weighted pretty heavily?

    Comment by JG — April 2, 2012 @ 5:35 pm

  10. It’s already been revealed that the Nationals are 11th.

    Comment by Well-Beered Englishman — April 2, 2012 @ 6:12 pm

  11. Arizona has already checked in at #16

    Comment by Matt — April 2, 2012 @ 6:20 pm

  12. Ouch. That one hurt, JG. I’m from Milwaukee and I think you’d like it. Most of the athletes who come here fall in love with the area. You won’t find better baseball (or football) fans anywhere. Look at what we accomplished attendance-wise, as compared to teams in vastly larger metro areas. It ain’t paradise but it sure beats places like Cleveland, Detroit, etc.

    Comment by Hank George — April 2, 2012 @ 6:29 pm

  13. The Cardinals are a Top 5 team. Arguably the top NL team.

    Comment by FlimtotheFlam — April 2, 2012 @ 7:16 pm

  14. I was referring to this (probably mistaken) quote in the article:

    “Not bad for a metro area that ranks the worst in all of baseball.”

    Comment by JG — April 2, 2012 @ 7:25 pm

  15. I’m almost certain it was referring to population size rather than making judgments on the city itself.

    Comment by JG — April 2, 2012 @ 7:27 pm

  16. I’m sure there are true blue brew fans out there, but before three-four years ago…not so much.

    Comment by steve-o — April 2, 2012 @ 8:17 pm

  17. Cardinals have a higher payroll than the Braves in 2012 and waaaaaay higher than the Nationals. They are also far better in the other 3 categories compared to the Giants.

    Comment by vivaelpujols — April 2, 2012 @ 11:18 pm

  18. And the Phillies farm and front office suck. Cards are likely in the top 5.

    Comment by vivaelpujols — April 2, 2012 @ 11:19 pm

  19. Since Miller Park was built attendance has been pretty strong, even when the teams were bad.

    I’d look at Gamel’s stats while starting vs while PH off the bench, he put up league average offense in the one stint they actually let him start every day. Most of that AAAA stat line comes from playing every 8th day and pinch hitting.

    The minor league system is underrated because it is still in the low minors. They will be back to a league average system in a couple years just by having more of the talent filter up to AA and AAA. I know ranking minor league systems is tricky but they don’t have the 2nd worst if you just look at talent and ignore time to reach the majors. They do lack high impact offensive talent though but that is easier to get via FA than pitching so it doesn’t bother me much if some of the pitching pans out.

    Comment by Ender — April 3, 2012 @ 10:49 am

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