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  1. Can you post distributions as well. This information is not very helpful without those (i.e. min, max, mean and standard dev.). Thanks.

    Comment by Jonathan — May 18, 2012 @ 2:47 pm

  2. How about doing it with beat writers?

    Comment by Monroe — May 18, 2012 @ 2:53 pm

  3. In the conclusion-and-notes post for TV broadcasts, I predicted that the radio broadcasts would have a significantly higher average score. This hypothesis has proven accurate.

    Discussion question: why do radio broadcasters score, on average, .51 higher than television crews?

    Comment by Well-Beered Englishman — May 18, 2012 @ 3:04 pm

  4. My guess is that, in general, if you’re frequently listening to a Radio broadcast, you’re already pretty ok with the broadcast team. If you really hated them, you wouldn’t listen, and probably wouldn’t respond to the survey. On the other hand, if you’re a fan of the team, you’re going to watch games no matter who the broadcast team is. As a result, I’d expect some selection bias in the numbers, and that might be what is responsible for the half-point difference.

    Comment by GTStD — May 18, 2012 @ 3:07 pm

  5. I wonder what the national distribution of Fangraphs readership is… More readers in the Bay Area would lead to more votes for their team. All reverence due to John Miller, but twice as many votes than any other team? Seems flawed somehow.

    Comment by B.A.T. — May 18, 2012 @ 3:11 pm

  6. I don’t believe that is correct. I often find myself listening to the radio where I have no TV (work, in the car, etc…) and I would listen even to a bad broadcast.

    From my experience (Phillies) the radio broadcasters are significantly better than the TV crew. So much better that I would pay an extra $10/month for if I could sync the radio broadcast to the visual feed. Radio crews rank higher because it is easier to weed out the bad broadcasters. In radio the entire broadcast depends on the play-by-play and color, whereas the TV broadcasters come second to the visual aspect of the game. Bad TV announcers (cough* cough* Chris Wheeler) can get by for a remarkably long time or stupid trivia and bad anecdotes.

    Comment by Evan — May 18, 2012 @ 3:27 pm

  7. A very popular blog by the Giants beat writer (here) linked to the vote page for Miller and Flemming. Probably resulted in a lot of votes from non Fangraphs readers.

    Comment by Matt — May 18, 2012 @ 3:33 pm

  8. Toronto fans always respond well to these sorts of things, the internet must be more readily available there.

    Comment by sc2gg — May 18, 2012 @ 3:38 pm

  9. This is a great idea. You might even want two ways to do it – beat writers for papers, then bloggers/new media. In DC, for example, while Adam Kilgore is a good beat writer for the Post, Mark Zuckerman is fantastic at NatsInsider/CSN, but he wouldn’t be a typical beat writer…

    Comment by chaotic — May 18, 2012 @ 3:44 pm

  10. Well, I think the Braves radio is better too, but we’re also coming from markets where the majority of people (according to the table) really like the radio broadcasters. Each city will have it’s own reasons why, but my point is that, because the surveys for TV and Radio were conducted independently and at different times with a non-identical sample space, it’s difficult to draw too strong of a conclusion that the radio broadcasters are actually better. They may be better, but it could also be that the people responding to the radio one, on the whole, are people who tend to prefer the radio broadcast to begin with.

    Comment by GTStD — May 18, 2012 @ 3:52 pm

  11. So what? A larger size of voters does not imply better score.

    Comment by Paul — May 18, 2012 @ 4:27 pm

  12. You can mute the TV and still watch the game. If you’re listening on the radio, you have to listen the broadcasters. While that may increase some listeners’ hatred, they’re more likely to stop listening altogether; on the other hand, the ones who persist may eventually grow fond (or at least tolerant) of the radio guys they once disliked. Meanwhile, the muted TV watchers continue to have their broadcast sundae with an undiminished topping of broadcaster hatred.

    Comment by joser — May 18, 2012 @ 4:30 pm

  13. In fact, probably the opposite. As with most things internet, hatred is more motivating than love.

    Comment by joser — May 18, 2012 @ 4:32 pm

  14. I fear a series on beat writers. The Seattle bloggers would absolutely melt your servers with their complaints…

    Comment by Snowblind — May 18, 2012 @ 4:56 pm

  15. Concessions, commercials and marketing / promotions would be interesting to crowdsource also.

    Thanks so much for all the work into the radio and TV polling! It was fun to read about.

    Comment by Snowblind — May 18, 2012 @ 4:57 pm

  16. Radio guys are just better. They don’t have to spend time primping their hair or staring at a camera while “welcoming us into the booth”. They can spend all that preparing for their broadcast.

    Also, I’d point out that a great voice is essential for radio, much more so than TV, and that great voice can make the difference between an average and an above average experience.

    Comment by Johnny Come Lately — May 18, 2012 @ 5:13 pm

  17. I want this. I want Fangraphs to post my 1000 word hate filled comment for Evan Grant of Dallas Morning News. The man who voted Michael Young American League MVP with his BBWAA vote. The man who said instead of extending Josh Hamilton this past offseason the should (and I fucking kid you not) extend Michael Young because then guys like Napoli and Hamilton will follow his lead and sign extensions too. The man just has an unhealthy man crush on Michael Young.

    Comment by Keystone Heavy — May 19, 2012 @ 12:29 am

  18. Ballpark ratings. As in entire experience. Site lines, seat comfort, concessions, prices, atmosphere, neighborhood, ease of getting there by various modes of transportation, parking, sound effects/organ, cleanliness, helpfulness of staff, and usefulness of scoreboard/jumbotron/other informational devises.

    Comment by Dr. Chaleeko — May 19, 2012 @ 6:22 pm


    (i guess everybody hates that d-bag)

    Comment by js — May 19, 2012 @ 7:28 pm

  20. nah, SF Giants fans are over represented on here. (and i’m one)

    too many articles about them on here also, if you want to be honest about it.

    Comment by js — May 19, 2012 @ 7:30 pm

  21. Ueck isn’t number 1? Have people seen the footage of Artie Lange and Norm McDonald talking on Letterman (I believe) about being in the booth with Ueck? Hilarious.

    Comment by deadhead — May 19, 2012 @ 7:33 pm

  22. Farmer and DJ get no love.

    Comment by MattM — May 20, 2012 @ 6:37 pm

  23. It’s because Joe Buck is 8,000,000,000,000 times worse than the worst radio broadcaster,so that skews the overall #’s worse than Mike Minor skews your ERA.

    Comment by John — May 21, 2012 @ 6:51 am

  24. I would get in a heartbeat if i could sync the radio broadcast with the tv broadcast through my apple tv. As it is now i watch Cubs games to pacify the wife while still getting to watch baseball and usually end up listening to brewers games while working on stuff around the house to pacify myself.

    For me the best day of the year is the first spring training game when I get to hear Uecker calling a game

    Comment by Chickensoup — May 21, 2012 @ 8:57 am

  25. Two things: Thank You Carson for creating a giant chart for me to scroll over and turn white. Curiously satisfying.

    Secondly, how about a rating of the graphic used by the local broadcast (the thing showing the score, pitch speed, baserunners, ball/strike/out…) Or is that too trivial to most folks?

    Comment by DD — May 21, 2012 @ 9:44 am

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