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  1. Who is the more overrated fangraphs darling… Asdrubal Cabrera or Colby Lewis?

    Comment by Tom B — May 23, 2012 @ 2:24 pm

  2. Elaborate on Cabrera being overrated, please.

    Comment by Rocky Colavito — May 23, 2012 @ 2:38 pm

  3. Editing is though :/

    Comment by wilt — May 23, 2012 @ 2:57 pm

  4. Yet another in a long line of regression-based “analyses” that is driving the nail into the FG coffin. It need not be this way. Projections expecting regression have a lot of data to work from because despite just now entering his prime, he has seemingly been around forever. I could have missed it, but I did not see one mention of Cabrera’s age in the above.

    So here we are with yet another guy entering his prime, whose skills have been improving for the past few years, and who if you actually watch him you would not be surprised in the least by the growth. Cabrera has some of the best ABs of anybody I’ve seen in the past couple of seasons, and that’s not just because I normally see him against the Royals. Like Melky Cabrera, skills that didn’t translate to big numbers early are now buttressed by physical strength, willingness to make adjustments, and repetition. Not surprising, since we see it all the time, and certainly sustainable.

    Comment by Paul — May 23, 2012 @ 3:04 pm

  5. And on Cabrera or Lewis being FanGraphs darlings for that matter…

    Comment by mcbrown — May 23, 2012 @ 3:07 pm

  6. Apparently Cabrera is simultaneously overrated and underrated by FG. Is this one of the signs of the Mayan apocalypse?

    Comment by mcbrown — May 23, 2012 @ 3:08 pm

  7. I really hope the excellent pun in the title is accidental.

    Comment by Jack — May 23, 2012 @ 3:14 pm

  8. Did you read the article?? He is suggesting that Asdrubal’s numbers are more sustainable than not.

    Comment by Mario Mendoza of commenters — May 23, 2012 @ 4:08 pm

  9. Sure about that? The summation is the definition of grammatical neutrality:

    “Of course, Cabrera now might go on a massive slump that “evens out” his good start. Regression works in funny (or not so funny, depending your perspective) ways. But the early signs in 2012 are that Cabrera may have improved his overall offensive game…”

    Comment by Paul — May 23, 2012 @ 4:28 pm

  10. Yes, I am.

    What’s curious is that the very quote you selected states as much. The only time he mentions regression is as a disclaimer before making the case that Asdrubal could buck the trend, much in the same way FG authors must include a SSS disclaimer.

    Don’t react to one word.

    Comment by Mario Mendoza of commenters — May 23, 2012 @ 4:49 pm

  11. We are talking about Mr. Unassisted Triple Play, right? His glove isn’t good?

    (Partly joking. I know his glove isn’t exactly spectacular, but I wouldn’t call it “disappointing,” either.)

    Comment by jorgath — May 23, 2012 @ 4:49 pm

  12. Asdrubal is great, if not excellent, with the glove. Not sure what the author was talking about with that comment. The rest of the article was on point though. Good read all and all.

    Comment by Marc — May 24, 2012 @ 12:46 am

  13. Cabrera had an amazing start to last year before fading badly down the stretch. As a fantasy owner, I hope this doesn’t repeat in 2012.

    Comment by hartmtown — May 24, 2012 @ 6:51 am

  14. Asdrubal has a good glove, but he has well below average range.

    Comment by JP — May 24, 2012 @ 11:09 am

  15. Thanks again, Bavasi.

    Comment by NBarnes — May 24, 2012 @ 11:17 am

  16. I bet he has never seen Asdrubal play ss. Fine his range is below average but he is spectacular at times. A scout would agree

    Comment by Edgardo — May 24, 2012 @ 1:01 pm

  17. I bet he has never seen Asdrubal play ss. Fine, his range is below average but he is spectacular at times. A scout would agree.

    Comment by Edgardo — May 24, 2012 @ 1:09 pm

  18. jorgath,
    An unassisted triple play might be quite rare, but it’s not much of a skill play. They bequeathed by the baseball gods. Being at the right place at the right time without being a total sped is sufficient.

    Sorry. A sidetrack, but ever since that stupid commercial, the subject is a sticky point with me. AC’s glove is probably fine for other reasons.

    Comment by alexethe — May 24, 2012 @ 1:55 pm

  19. That was not on purpose. Don’t even try it.

    Comment by phoenix2042 — May 24, 2012 @ 5:01 pm

  20. 33% of Asdrubal C’s plate appearances this year have been against lefties (coming into the season it had been at 29%).

    His K and BB % this season against lefties is the big improvement. 2 K’s in 58 PA’s against lefties this year.

    VS LHP

    Career- 721 PA’s
    BB% 7.8 K% 12.8

    2007 – 50 PA’s
    BB% 2.0 K% 20.0

    2008- 100 PA’s
    BB% 12.0 K% 11.0

    2009- 167 PA’s
    BB% 7.8 K% 15.6

    2010 – 132 PA’s
    BB% 6.1 K% 11.4

    2011- 214 PA’S
    BB% 6.5 K% 13.1

    2012- 58 PA’s
    BB% 13.8 K% 3.4

    So Asdrubal C’s BB% against lefties is 1.8% higher than its ever been for a season, and his K% against lefties is 7.6% lower than its ever been for a season. His career K% against lefties at the start of the season was 13.6%. 58 PA’s later he has dropped it to 12.8% for his careeer

    Comment by Allan — May 25, 2012 @ 12:11 pm

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