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  1. BtBS’s catcher ranking system seems to love Montero, both this year and last. Seems like a ton of money at first glance, but yeah, win-win deal sounds about right.

    Comment by wamco — May 28, 2012 @ 1:10 pm

  2. The over/under on Montero’s WAR for the next 5 years is between 7 and 10. Depending on if you are a pessimist or an optimist. Catchers are a very different breed with injuries being the key issue. His BBRef age-similars, Mike Lieberthal, Jody Davis, Sammy White, Earl Battey…, were all a lot better up to age 27 than after. The best of the lot after age 27 was Ed Bailey.

    Let’s say 2 WAR a year for $12 million (which is likely to be something like 3.5, 1, 2.5, 1.5, 2.0, 1.5). Not enough WAR for the buck.

    Comment by Mike Green — May 28, 2012 @ 1:51 pm

  3. This deal made the Braves sad; McCann is going to get paid handsomely after next year.

    Comment by Brian — May 28, 2012 @ 5:47 pm

  4. Problem is you still have to play a catcher, right?

    It may well be that the D’backs fancy themselves to contend, and you have to pay the players at some point. This trend of locking players up makes it seem like there are less impact players available in free agency, which probably leads to more players being locked up for fear of not being able to find a replacement. I’m not familiar with the D’back’s farm system, but it might be that they said: We need wins. We can’t buy any cheaper wins. Let’s pay our catcher.

    Or they’re bullish on their guy. Who knows?

    Comment by CJ — May 28, 2012 @ 5:48 pm

  5. How can all catchers collectively rate as below average? The collective should be the average.

    Comment by MrKnowNothing — May 28, 2012 @ 6:36 pm

  6. the over/under on his WAR over the next 5 years is 7-10? he had 4.4 last year, with no alarming peripherals

    Comment by jim — May 28, 2012 @ 6:51 pm

  7. a bit off topic- im a cards fan, but is yadier really the best in baseball? mccann, mauer, santana, posey are all really great.

    Comment by my jays are red — May 28, 2012 @ 7:47 pm

  8. As long as “arguably” is loosely defined, all those guys and Weiters and Napoli are arguably the best – as in someone might argue that.

    Comment by TKDC — May 28, 2012 @ 8:34 pm

  9. Catchers collectively rate as below average as compared to your average MLB player.

    Comment by Bob — May 28, 2012 @ 9:25 pm

  10. Are ages 29-33 now considered the new “prime” for catchers ?

    Not quite getting how Montero “figures to be in his prime” through even half of this deal.

    Comment by shoewizard — May 29, 2012 @ 1:31 am

  11. Mike Scioscia would argue that Jeff Mathis is the best catcher in baseball, but that doesn’t mean we have to say “Jeff Mathis, arguably the best catcher in baseball” ever.

    Comment by Jack — May 29, 2012 @ 2:14 am

  12. Here is a link to some info on Montero comps, and it hghlights the dangers for catchers age 29-33

    I am still surprised Eric would refer to those years are Prime. It flies in the face of everything we know about catcher aging patterns

    http://www.azsnakepit.com/2012/5/29/3049414/working-the-montero-comps-again

    Comment by shoewizard — May 29, 2012 @ 6:17 am

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