FanGraphs Baseball


RSS feed for comments on this post.

  1. Zack Greinke, I could even see him signing long term there.

    Comment by MauerPower — June 19, 2012 @ 3:21 pm

  2. More likely to see Randy Wolf in a Braves uniform than Zack Greinke…

    Comment by Yah — June 19, 2012 @ 3:27 pm

  3. Dempster seems like too good a fit for them not to make a move. I guess money would be the only thing holding them back.

    Comment by David — June 19, 2012 @ 3:27 pm

  4. Hope so, don’t want the Dumpster coming to Boston and scattering his garbage everywhere.

    Comment by yosoyfiesta — June 19, 2012 @ 3:39 pm

  5. I have a feeling Teheran, Medlen, and Jurrjens will all see multiple starts in Beachy’s absence. Before the July deadline, they’ll throw everything against the wall and see what sticks.

    Comment by RMD — June 19, 2012 @ 3:44 pm

  6. I don’t see any reason for the Braves to make a play for a pitcher unless he comes very cheap or they can get an extension worked out beforehand. The team was winning early in the season with even worse pitching than what they have going on now but then the position players started going down (Freeman, Chipper, McCann). They have enough internal options that perhaps the best move is a play for a guy like Youkilis, who can back up both first and third. This would protect against the inevitable Chipper injury because Francisco isn’t cutting it. Todd Redmond deserves a chance too.

    Comment by nick — June 19, 2012 @ 3:51 pm

  7. Minor nit, but his name is spelled “Freddie Freeman”, not “Freddy Freeman”. Doesn’t show up in bold with a link as a result.

    Comment by harpago17 — June 19, 2012 @ 3:54 pm

  8. I don’t have a lot of confidence in the Braves’ offense, particularly against LHP. Bourn has an .866 OPS against righties, but .723 against lefties. Freeman is .799 against righties, and .618 against lefties. Heyward is .894 against righties, and .571 against lefties. Chipper Jones can break down at any point, given his age and injury history, and he hasn’t hit much at all since returning from his leg injury. When he’s not in there, it’s Prado at third and Diaz in LF, or Francisco at third and Prado in LF. Neither Diaz or Francisco inspires confidence.

    Comment by ChuckO — June 19, 2012 @ 3:55 pm

  9. I think the biggest need for the Braves is to upgrade their bench. Eric Hinske, Juan Francisco and Jack Wilson are all horrible. Hinske and Wilson are washed up and Francisco is just awful.

    I wouldn’t mind seeing them trade for Dempster but there is no use in doing that if they have no intentions of solidfying the bench. Frank Wren really messed up this offseason by trading for Francisco, not signing a decent 4th OF, and not trading for one of the available shortstops on the market.

    Comment by JT Grace — June 19, 2012 @ 4:03 pm

  10. “and not trading for one of the available shortstops on the market.”

    See, they have this guy named Andrelton Simmons. Makes the minimum, plays outstanding defense, slashing .333/.393/.529

    Comment by dutch — June 19, 2012 @ 4:13 pm

  11. I guess you never heard of this rare position called a utility player. They are the primary back-up for your starting shortstop. The Braves entered the season with Pastornicky as the entrenched starting SS with no one else on the roster who could play the position and hit. At that point the Braves didn’t know if either Simmons or Pastornicky could even hit at the MLB level. It was idiotic to go into the season with Wilson as the only back-up. It’s still idiotic.

    By the way, Simmons has been outstanding with the bat so far but let’s give him a couple of months before we start quoting his slash line.

    Comment by JT Grace — June 19, 2012 @ 4:20 pm

  12. The Braves don’t have the finances to sign Greinke long term. I also don’t see them giving up the prospects it takes to get him.

    Comment by JT Grace — June 19, 2012 @ 4:22 pm

  13. It’s not like their minor leagues is stocked with premium prospects at this point though so a deal probably hinges on them taking over the majority of a contract.

    Comment by odbsol — June 19, 2012 @ 4:23 pm

  14. gah. Thanks. Fixed.

    Comment by Michael Barr — June 19, 2012 @ 4:37 pm

  15. I agree with this, completely. But the problem is – unless they intend to trade one of their regular position players, I don’t see them going out to shop for a player to supplant Heyward, Bourn, Freeman, etc.

    Comment by Michael Barr — June 19, 2012 @ 4:39 pm

  16. Agree that upgrading their bench should be a priority. But the impact is small, and the number of players is so plentiful that I chose not to list everyone that might be available.

    Comment by Michael Barr — June 19, 2012 @ 4:41 pm

  17. Diaz is actually a good player if purely used against lefties. See his career .872 OPS against them.

    Also, I’m not sure it would make any difference, but you should really use career splits instead of 2012 to make this point.

    Comment by TKDC — June 19, 2012 @ 4:43 pm

  18. Agreed. However, the player who gets playing time immediately behind Chipper has a bigger than ordinary impact on the team. At the very least one of Hinkse/Francisco/Wilson needs to be upgraded to a guy who can play at the major league level.

    Comment by JT Grace — June 19, 2012 @ 4:46 pm

  19. The place the Braves could improve the most is manager, and it wouldn’t cost much. How much does a circus monkey go for these days?

    Comment by TKDC — June 19, 2012 @ 4:48 pm

  20. Man, tough break, having a single vacancy in your rotation, Braves Fans. Try having 3 open up in a week.

    -Jays Fans

    Comment by Big Jgke — June 19, 2012 @ 5:20 pm

  21. The braves should trade for BJ Upton and keep prado at third and bring Chipper off the bench. We need a more reliable starter.

    Comment by Rocky — June 19, 2012 @ 5:34 pm

  22. Yeah, that was just horrible for the Blue Jays. The Braves went through something similar a few years ago when they lost 3 starting pitchers during the season…..but they didn’t lose them in 3 consecutive games….wow!!

    Comment by JT Grace — June 19, 2012 @ 5:42 pm

  23. Career stats aren’t much better. Against LHP, the OPS for Bourn = .629, Freeman = .691, Heyward = .662.

    Comment by ChuckO — June 19, 2012 @ 6:00 pm

  24. If the Braves grab anyone, it should be a LF or 3B that will play full time next year when Chipper retires (Depending on where they want to put Prado). CF will be an offseason problem. The bench sucks this year, but its not going to be more than a one/two win difference.

    Pitching meanwhile I think could be solved with a unique solution that involves pitching Minor and Delgado 4 or 5 innings each start…and have them start on the same day. It would be something different, but both seem to have problems the 3rd time through the order, so why not just put them in a position to see it twice each. Yes, we would carry 6 starters, and yes, the 5a and 5b starts of Minelgado might not be the most effective..but it would make do with what we have without adding payroll.

    Comment by Brian Snyder — June 19, 2012 @ 6:53 pm

  25. Not sure a long-term deal with a Greinke-caliber pitcher makes sense. Entering next season trying to make sense of Greinke, Hanson, Hudson, Beachy, Vizcaino, Minor, Jurrjens, Delgado, Teheran would be overkill.

    Comment by BARVES — June 19, 2012 @ 7:03 pm

  26. I think Delgado is turning it around. Minor’s problem is how much worse he is off the stretch.

    Comment by Antonio Bananas — June 19, 2012 @ 7:49 pm

  27. I get not having the payroll but not willing to deal prospects is what has gotten them to this point. They see so much potential in their young arms that they didn’t trade any of them for a something more proven to help them in the immediate. This has lead to them to deal with the inconsistencies of their pitching prospects whilst being in the middle of a pennant race. Which puts even more pressure on these young arms to perform which doesn’t really put them in the best possible position to succeed.

    I’m not saying you have to be the southern version of Ruben Amaro, but sometimes you gotta give up the uncertain to get something proven.

    Comment by AG3 — June 19, 2012 @ 8:01 pm

  28. Jack Wilson is done. I have no idea why he is still taking up a roster spot and taking at-bats from productive players. His trademark flashy defense has also taken a step back as he looks old out there.

    Comment by Phantom Stranger — June 19, 2012 @ 8:21 pm

  29. “I think it was Earl Wilson who said baseball is a nervous breakdown, divided into nine innings, or something to that effect.”

    A seriously weak opening statement, that suggests you dont care or are too lazy.

    Comment by bop — June 19, 2012 @ 9:17 pm

  30. I’ll be sure to tell Mr. Wilson you weren’t impressed.

    Comment by Michael Barr — June 19, 2012 @ 9:41 pm

  31. The braves have a lot of money coming off of the books after the season, i believe. So i think greinke is a guy they can sign, if they want to.

    Comment by Joe c. — June 19, 2012 @ 10:53 pm

  32. They certainly do so, the Braves have a bounty of flexibility coming up this offseason, take a look:

    Comment by Josh — June 19, 2012 @ 10:56 pm

  33. Or they could even try the 3-3 strategy with all 6 starters. Have 3 pairs of guys go 3ish innings each every 3 games. No between start sessions necessary.

    Comment by TKDC — June 19, 2012 @ 11:00 pm

  34. They really only have money committed to Uggla next season. They have Heyward and Hanson arbitration eligible along with Venters, Martinez, and Medlen. They have the issue of what to do with McCann, who is likely to cost them quite a sum given the extensions other catchers (of lesser quality) have received, but yeah, the Braves have plenty to spend next year.

    Comment by Michael Barr — June 19, 2012 @ 11:07 pm

  35. Oh yeah, Boston rocked Dempster in his last start, right? Is there anyone in beantown that knows anything about any sport? Or are you just douchebags with bad haircuts?

    Comment by Oasis — June 19, 2012 @ 11:51 pm

  36. bop was referring to the uncertainty of the sentence. “I think” should be Earl Wilson said. If indeed he said it.

    2-20 seconds of research would tell you the answer, therefore you received the line “don’t care, or too lazy.”

    Comment by But — June 20, 2012 @ 1:20 am

  37. They have Prado they can scoot in to 3rd….and Hinske could fill in for a couple days in LF, but they’d be better off trying to find another OFer who could start going forward.

    I don’t think Chipper finishes this season on the field, i think an injury shuts him down completely in a month or so. It’s getting rougher and rougher watching him limp around.

    Comment by Chuck — June 20, 2012 @ 2:40 am

  38. Hey the Braves may have some trouble with their rotation at least they were able to get a win over the Yankees to stop the winning streak the Yankees were on. The Braves have been known over the years for great pitching and I am sure they will get it resolved sooner rather than later….

    Comment by USA Sports 360 — June 20, 2012 @ 9:36 am

  39. I got that. I was just being facetious. And frankly I did know that Earl Wilson said it, I just didn’t think a softer intro would rattle anyone.

    Comment by Michael Barr — June 20, 2012 @ 10:21 am

  40. Hey! Do you guys need me?

    Comment by A belly-itcher — June 20, 2012 @ 11:36 am

  41. No!! Go sit down. They were calling for ME.

    Comment by A pitcher — June 20, 2012 @ 11:37 am

  42. “And frankly I did know that Earl Wilson said it”

    That wasn’t a jab(my post). As far as getting “it”, the “it” is we don’t know he said the quote, unless you tell us. I think leads one to believe he may or may not have said it.

    Medlen owner, grrr

    Comment by But — June 20, 2012 @ 12:26 pm

  43. oh, this guy.

    Comment by radicalhenri — June 20, 2012 @ 11:27 pm

  44. JT G, I like this sentiment. Yes, Prado has been fantastic filling in for Chipper at 3rd(and remarkably athletic playing a few games at 1B also), but when you take Chipper out you have to play a bench player somewhere. Hinske is in a career-worst slump, and that’s not good when you’re 34 years old and putting up a 40 wRC+. Wilson can’t hit his weight(and he’s a skinny guy), and Francisco has been below average both offensively and defensively.

    I like the move to upgrade the bench, or God forbid Frank Wren bites the bullet and goes out and gets a decent 4th outfielder, who will start next year when Prado moves to third.

    I think getting Youkilis would be a coup.

    Comment by bstar — June 21, 2012 @ 2:51 am

  45. He looked like Ozzie Smith in his prime when Pastornicky was on the roster.

    But yeah, not much use for him now.

    Comment by bstar — June 21, 2012 @ 3:01 am

Sorry, the comment form is closed at this time.

Close this window.

0.268 Powered by WordPress