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  1. With Rolen coming off the DL soon, Frazier should start to see some time at LF. So if Rolen can at least be not terrible, that could be a solution to that problem. As for CF I’d be all for Fowler. To me issues that are just as big as these are the bench and lineup construction. The bench is God awful. There is really no other way to describe it, and no one in AAA that could help. As for the lineup, Cozart and Stubbs, arguably the two worst hitters on the team, at least OBP wise, have hit 1 and 2 just about all year.

    Comment by Aaron — June 15, 2012 @ 4:11 pm

  2. Stubbs is one of the most intriguing to me. His season numbers are really eye-popping bad. But his splits tells us something else. His line batting second is fine: .280/.348/.476 (according to BBRef). When he was the leadoff, he batted, believe it or not, .083/.132/.083. That’s why his line is so scary this season. 3 hits in his first 38 PAs.

    Comment by Fernando — June 15, 2012 @ 4:36 pm

  3. Do you really think Stubbs’ strikeout numbers were “not a problem to begin with”? He had 168 strikeouts (28.8 K%) in his breakout 2010 season and then last year had 205 strikeouts (30.1 K%). Not trying to be condescending, I’m just really not sure why that wouldn’t be a problem with any hitter who doesn’t regularly put up 30+ HRs a season?

    Comment by Disco Hero — June 15, 2012 @ 4:37 pm

  4. “impactful” really? Sounds like a game changer, if they don’t kick the can down the road.

    Comment by steve-o — June 15, 2012 @ 4:55 pm

  5. Isn’t Mike Trout what the Reds thought Drew Stubbs would be?

    Comment by DoubleD — June 15, 2012 @ 4:58 pm

  6. To pick a nit: Cozart has been almost perfectly average offensively, very good defensively, and has already generated 1.4 WAR. How is he anything other than an asset to the Reds?

    Comment by Jason461 — June 15, 2012 @ 5:09 pm

  7. Bourjos not an upgrade? He is a +10 UZR fielder who put up a 336 wOBA last year! Even with a sucky 100 PA this year, he still has zips RoS .293 wOBA, good enough to be above average overall, given his glovework. I would love for my team to get him.

    Comment by brendan — June 15, 2012 @ 5:47 pm

  8. I would agree. 25+ k% with under 200 ISO is pretty bad. Unless the player is elite in bb%.

    Comment by brandon — June 15, 2012 @ 6:47 pm

  9. Reds need a LF/CF? How about they trade for Edison Volquez and stick him out there? TROLLOLOLOLOL!!!

    Comment by Texas Rangers Fan — June 15, 2012 @ 7:31 pm

  10. Depends on what you mean. If you mean the uber prospect Trout, no. If you mean the 26th overall pick Trout, maybe. Stubbs was supposed to hit for plus power albeit with a average-ish BA. He was not supposed to be as good of a hitter. Stubbs has 70 speed while Trout has 80 speed. He was supposed to be great, but never on the level of Trout (slightly less power, less hitting, slightly less speed, etc)

    Comment by Bullets on Ice — June 15, 2012 @ 8:37 pm

  11. Halos wouldn’t sell Bourjos.(his defence is mercy) It will cost a lot to get him.

    Comment by Daniel Chen — June 15, 2012 @ 8:56 pm

  12. i def think that cozart will continue to improve. this is his first full season. if he got his OBP to .350 plus he would be a very effective player bc he has above average power for a ss and his defense is improving

    Comment by adk234769 — June 16, 2012 @ 12:07 am

  13. I just want to say that I’ve been a merciless, unforgiving Plouffe basher and yet he continues to just mash in June. At what point do I change my mind?

    Comment by WinTwins — June 16, 2012 @ 1:03 am

  14. Or maybe they could get EdiNson Volquez – who is already pitching in the Major Leagues.

    Comment by beeviss — June 16, 2012 @ 7:33 am

  15. You don’t. You line in wait until he slumps and then you strike!

    Comment by GorillaKilla — June 16, 2012 @ 8:26 am

  16. Fail

    Comment by GorillaKilla — June 16, 2012 @ 8:28 am

  17. The metrics may rate Stubbs’ defense as neutral, but a number of scouts still rave about it. One scout maven (I can’t remember exactly which one) said that he has some of the best CF defense in the bigs.

    Comment by Josh — June 16, 2012 @ 8:59 am

  18. Agree on Frazier, if Rolen can provide his still excellent defense and just passable offense a few times a week it allows them to give Frazier time in left and alleviate the problem.

    If they went after a CF it would almost surely be a rental, because that is likely where Billy Hamilton is ticketed in a year or so. He’s probably moving up to AA in the next few weeks and could be in big league camp next spring.

    Comment by Colin P — June 16, 2012 @ 9:55 am

  19. Indeed. For whatever reason, UZR really underrates Stubbs’ defense. He has amazing speed, good instincts, and a good arm. He may not be the elite GG CF that he was projected to be when drafted, but he is definitely much better than a “neutral” defender.

    Now, the question is really whether or not his defense is good enough to compensate for his bat. That’s a tough one.

    Comment by Charlie Scrabbles — June 16, 2012 @ 10:00 am

  20. In the past calendar year, Rolen has hit .199/.240/.343, with a .256 wOBA and a 54 wRC+. If Rolen manages to somehow come back healthy and productive, that would certainly be a nice bonus, and you could slot him into the Jason Giambi pinch-hitter/DH role, but that’s a big “if.” At this point, I don’t think you can bank on him being a productive member of any Major League ballclub.

    Comment by Paul Swydan — June 16, 2012 @ 10:34 am

  21. How about Devin Mesoraco for Peter Bourjos?

    Comment by Angelsjunky — June 16, 2012 @ 11:09 am

  22. “impactful” was the worst part, but re-read the entire first sentence. It is proof positive that FanGraphs needs an editor.
    Be that as it may, this was a very good article–informative and fact-filled. If the Reds have anything left to trade, they should do so to fill at least some of the holes. They may not be this close to the playoffs again for some time, especially with Baker as the manager.

    Comment by Baltar — June 16, 2012 @ 1:22 pm

  23. It isn’t necessary to tweet in this blog. You are allowed to speak English.

    Comment by Baltar — June 16, 2012 @ 1:26 pm

  24. If some scout whose name you can’t remember thinks his defense is good, then I’m convinced.

    Comment by Baltar — June 16, 2012 @ 1:29 pm

  25. “Proof positive,” “be that as it may,” and incorrect use of a hyphen were the worst parts, but re-read that last sentence. It’s a good example of why Baltar has no authority to (1) critique grammar, usage, and punctuation on the Internet; and, (2) talk about baseball.

    Comment by Bloom — June 16, 2012 @ 3:38 pm

  26. The fact that Stubbs not only repeatedly misreads balls, but also frequently makes bad routes once he sees them probably has something to do with his neutral UZR.

    Comment by Monroe — June 16, 2012 @ 3:48 pm

  27. Mesoraco for Trout makes just as much sense.

    Comment by Monroe — June 16, 2012 @ 3:51 pm

  28. I’d take a look at the SFG RF, Nate Schierholtz.

    Comment by channelclemente — June 16, 2012 @ 5:07 pm

  29. Hamilton should have been in AA 4 weeks ago. We already know he can hit in High-A and steal on those inferior catchers. The Reds are slowing his growth.

    I think if Hamilton gets fast-tracked and produces at AA then Cozart might make a decent LF. Don’t think he can cover CF.

    Comment by Eric — June 16, 2012 @ 6:49 pm

  30. No idea why this is down voted. Absolutely hilarious.

    Comment by rEc — June 16, 2012 @ 10:40 pm

  31. Let’s look at the guy next to him in the outfield. Went from a league leading UZR of 19.7 in 2010 to -0.8 in 2011, without any real change in his defense. A large part of that was he stopped getting points for throwing out baserunners as they gave up testing his arm. But while throwing out runners trying to go for two, or score from second is huge, there is also value in forcing them to stay put. Just an example of why UZR has to be taken with a huge grain of salt. Stubbs is not a neutral defender; not going to go over well on this site, but sometimes you have to watch the games.

    Comment by Jason — June 17, 2012 @ 10:02 am

  32. Um, no it doesn’t.

    Comment by Angelsjunky — June 17, 2012 @ 1:33 pm

  33. I believe it was Kevin Goldstein from BA that tweeted that “Stubbs in the best defensive CF in baseball” at the beginning of the year.

    Comment by DavefrmLville — June 17, 2012 @ 2:54 pm

  34. Hey, what if the Reds traded their really good rookie catcher to your favorite team for a crappy CF that the Angels don’t have a place for anymore? That would be a great idea! Unless of course, you’re the Reds.

    Comment by Jake — June 18, 2012 @ 10:26 am

  35. Twins have a win-now leftfielder on a team friendly contract (Willingham, 3/$21). Do the Reds have / would they shop a legit starting pitching prospect for him?

    Comment by payroll — June 18, 2012 @ 10:35 am

  36. Bourjos had a 4.3 WAR last year – that’s hardly crappy, nor is Mesoraco a sure thing. Bourjos is one of the most valuable defensive players in the game and lost his job to one of the best young players in the game, so it is hardly shameful. He will never be a great one but just being an average one will make him a borderline star because of his defense. So what’s the problem?

    Comment by Angelsjunky — June 18, 2012 @ 2:49 pm

  37. whoops…meant to say “great hitter” not “great one.” You get the drift. Bourjos at .271/.327/.438 was worth 4.3 WAR, and that was with defense not as good as 2010 or 2012.

    Comment by Angelsjunky — June 18, 2012 @ 2:52 pm

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