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  1. > especially if the team doing the acquiring — say, for instance, the Orioles or the Tigers — isn’t as sharp defensively as have been the Cubs.

    With Starlin playing the Cubs still have a good defense?

    Comment by Bighead Burton — July 11, 2012 @ 6:34 pm

  2. could someone tell me what they think a season changing package of Garza, Dempster, and LaHair (w/ Cubs paying all of the salaries) could get from a team like DET/TOR/BAL/TB?

    I would love to think that they could get the big 2 prospects from the Tigers w/ that package but I don’t know how realistic that would be. And if that is moderately realistic, would Cubs tossing in Vitters be enough to get it done?

    Comment by cody k — July 11, 2012 @ 7:39 pm

  3. Starlin has been excellent defensively this year. At least according to Fangraphs, B-Ref and BP. And the eye test.

    Comment by doogolas — July 11, 2012 @ 8:18 pm

  4. If you’re trading all 3 guys, you’d better be getting Turner, Castellanos, and more. I’m still not one who likes Turner. However, where they’d realistically stick LaHair on a regular basis might not be 100% clear.

    I still prefer trying to get Syndergaard and/or Nicolino from Toronto over the other trade partners.

    Comment by Keith — July 11, 2012 @ 9:24 pm

  5. Rangers have come close the last 2 seasons and seem to be a team that has the prospects to make sure they don’t come close for a 3rd time.

    I suspect the Rangers will land one or two of Garza, Dempster, Greinke/Hamels (no way they land both Greinke and Hamels).

    They’d probably have to part with Olt, Buckels, Odor and someone tho.

    Comment by Eric — July 11, 2012 @ 9:53 pm

  6. Doog is right. This isn’t aimed just at you Bighead, but people should probably start doing their homework first on guys like Starlin Castro before just making assumptions based on the national media.

    His defense at SS this season has been among the best in the league at SS so far this season.

    Comment by Brandon — July 12, 2012 @ 12:08 am

  7. The Cubs could probably get Castellanos for Darwin Barney. At second base the Tigers have been the least productive of any team this season. The Tigers seem to like Castellanos, but they have Cabrera and Fielder occupying the corner positions of the infield so they have nowhere to put him.

    Comment by CubsFan16 — July 12, 2012 @ 12:24 am

  8. There is no way the Tigers trade their best hitting prospect for a replacement level player. Darwin Barney may have a cool sounding name but he is the epitome of a replacement level player.

    Comment by sucklingduck — July 12, 2012 @ 2:16 am

  9. Are you high? Dombrowski is not a dumbass, he would never do that deal in a berjillion years. Castellanos is going nowhere unless it’s for an elite player, and that is not Dempster and it’s especially not Darwin Barney.

    Comment by Stringer Bell — July 12, 2012 @ 3:03 am


    Comment by My echo and bunnymen — July 12, 2012 @ 3:15 am

  11. I’m sure CubsFan16 isn’t high but I don’t agree that Barney fetches Castellanos. That said, teams like Barney and they should – he can’t hit a lot but he’s good enough defensively that he cannot be considered the epitome of a replacement level player. Up the midde defense is not that easy to find after all.

    If it was Garza/Dempster and Barney going to the Tigers, then at least one of Turner or Castellanos would have to be involved.

    ‘Course I doubt Barney is going to be traded. Everyone likes up the middle defense but no one really wants to be seen handing over much for it either. It just lacks that little dose of satisfaction.

    Comment by Daniel — July 12, 2012 @ 3:56 am

  12. hahaha…funniest thing I’ve heard all day! Hope the Cubs front office doesn’t have the same delusions that you do!

    Comment by jason — July 12, 2012 @ 4:01 am

  13. Starlin is much improved this year and looks a lot more comfortable at SS. I suspect the rumor-mongering of his need to move to 2B, 3B, or CF will soon hibernate for 8 to 12 years.

    A lot of it has to be having Darwin Barney at 2nd, who has truly been one of the most amazing defensive second baggers I’ve ever seen. It seems like the only time he ever makes a “mistake” if when he just misses pulling off something that seems impossible.

    Comment by Brett W — July 12, 2012 @ 7:33 am

  14. I love my fellow Cub fans.

    Comment by Norm — July 12, 2012 @ 10:07 am

  15. but TOR is only in the fringes of the race. Can’t see them tossing a big arm prospect for a 2 month rental to get them from 4th to 3rd place.

    Comment by Spike — July 12, 2012 @ 10:29 am

  16. This is hilarious

    Comment by Eminor3rd — July 12, 2012 @ 2:27 pm

  17. Whom would be a better pitcher to acquire for any team, Garza or Dempster? Dempster has shown to be better in some major statistics over Garza rather than SIERA, but Garza also has AL experience (for what that’s worth)

    Comment by Greg — July 18, 2012 @ 6:33 pm

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