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  1. felix is only 26? i suppose i knew that intellectually, but for some reason, to see it in this post carries some extra weight

    Comment by jim — July 19, 2012 @ 4:36 pm

  2. And now the Giants fans (myself included) complain about how Bumgarner should be higher!

    Seriously, though, I’m surprised that he’s below Posey. Assuming Posey makes it… if he didn’t that would be scary. But I’d think with the injury issue, Bumgarner would be above Posey. I mean, seriously, look at that contract! It’s almost Moore-like, and he’s not struggling like Moore is!

    Comment by Oren — July 19, 2012 @ 4:37 pm

  3. There’s 15 left. Who are they, folks?

    Trout, Harper, McCutchen, Longoria, Strasburg, Verlander, Heyward, Stanton, Bautista, Braun, Posey, Lawrie… and I’m 3 short. Embarassing.

    Comment by tmorgan1970 — July 19, 2012 @ 4:44 pm

  4. Hell, I’m not even a Giants fan and I was complaining about Bumgarner not being on last year’s list.

    Comment by Oliver — July 19, 2012 @ 4:46 pm

  5. Ryan Howard

    Comment by RMD — July 19, 2012 @ 4:47 pm

  6. I want to like this to infinity

    Comment by James — July 19, 2012 @ 4:48 pm

  7. Ryan Howard ofc

    Comment by James — July 19, 2012 @ 4:49 pm

  8. This is where the list starts to break down–there’s simply no prospect package that will equal the value of Mike Trout over the next years.

    Comment by Oliver — July 19, 2012 @ 4:51 pm

  9. Possibly Chris Sale??

    Comment by Nsamp7 — July 19, 2012 @ 4:51 pm

  10. Sabbathia? Tulo?

    Comment by grant — July 19, 2012 @ 4:51 pm

  11. Andrelton Simmons

    Comment by ppabich — July 19, 2012 @ 4:53 pm

  12. He was 31

    Comment by ppabich — July 19, 2012 @ 4:54 pm

  13. I doubt Sabathia, but Tulo is a good guess.

    Comment by ppabich — July 19, 2012 @ 4:54 pm

  14. I’m guessing Wright, Hamilton and Jennings.

    Comment by jpg — July 19, 2012 @ 4:56 pm

  15. Ellsbury and Kemp for sure. Maybe Carlos Ruiz? Anthony Rizzo?

    Comment by brewcitydomer — July 19, 2012 @ 4:56 pm

  16. Tulo is probably the third, along with kemp and ellsbury.

    Comment by brewcitydomer — July 19, 2012 @ 4:57 pm

  17. First and the last I can agree with, the middle one is a free agent at the end of the season.

    Comment by ppabich — July 19, 2012 @ 4:58 pm

  18. Kemp.

    Comment by Reno Dakota — July 19, 2012 @ 4:59 pm

  19. CLogdorp will say Yuni Betancourt by the end of the thread im sure.

    Comment by Sleight of Hand Pro — July 19, 2012 @ 5:00 pm

  20. Kemp

    Comment by Los — July 19, 2012 @ 5:00 pm

  21. Gotta be those three. Ruiz is too old for the list as a catcher, and there’s no way Rizzo makes it that high. I wouldn’t have necessarily minded his inclusion, but I would mind a Top 15 inclusion.

    Comment by Pinstripe Wizard — July 19, 2012 @ 5:01 pm

  22. Definitely. Carl Crawford has definitely got to be in the top 5 too. Imagine how many cost-controlled young players you’d need to give up to land that pair…

    Comment by B N — July 19, 2012 @ 5:01 pm

  23. Kemp, Jennings… Wright?

    Comment by Oren — July 19, 2012 @ 5:01 pm

  24. Tulo instead of Wright, and I think we got it.

    Comment by Oren — July 19, 2012 @ 5:02 pm

  25. Re:protection theory – I don’t want this to devolve into a protracted discussion, but I would like to note Cabrera is having his lowest BB rate/IBB rate since 2009.

    Comment by James — July 19, 2012 @ 5:02 pm

  26. Ellsbury is a FA after 2013, no?

    Comment by ppabich — July 19, 2012 @ 5:03 pm

  27. No on Jennings or Wright. Kemp, Tulo…Weiters?

    Comment by Los — July 19, 2012 @ 5:04 pm

  28. DAVE! Please explain how my M’s can have the most away team runs in baseball!!!! Is their current offense legitimate? Is Safeco really that difficult to score runs at? Does that mean our young players are actually something we can build a playoff team around? Can I still have hope?

    Comment by Mark — July 19, 2012 @ 5:06 pm

  29. Barry Zito has to be in there too.

    Comment by Oren — July 19, 2012 @ 5:06 pm

  30. no way it’s ellsbury, do you even watch baseball? dude hasn’t played this season and he had 1 good year.

    Comment by everdiso — July 19, 2012 @ 5:29 pm

  31. It appears David Wright didn’t make the list. Don’t see him as top 15.

    Comment by CircleChange11 — July 19, 2012 @ 5:30 pm

  32. David Wright is a FA after 2013, definitely not on the list. Desmond Jennings is not very good, definitely not on the list. To the person that guessed Carlos Ruiz and Anthony Rizzo, nice trolling.

    Comment by Thomas Grantham — July 19, 2012 @ 5:30 pm

  33. I would look at away runs per game instead of the total? I have no clue but maybe they have just played a lot more away games then everyone else? Doubtful and regardless your point will probably still stand in terms of their current offense.

    Comment by TKP — July 19, 2012 @ 5:38 pm

  34. Also, I have got to think Ryan Zimmerman is still in the Top 50…meaning still in the top 15

    Comment by Thomas Grantham — July 19, 2012 @ 5:39 pm

  35. No way in hell.

    Comment by TKP — July 19, 2012 @ 5:41 pm

  36. 1)Trout
    2)Harper
    3)Longoria
    4)Mccutchen
    5)Kemp
    6)Braun
    7)Verlander
    8)Bautista
    9)Stanton
    10)Strasburg
    11)Tulowitzki
    12)Heyward
    13)Sabathia
    14)Posey
    15)Lawrie (maybe he’s not even on the list?)

    Just my random guess, im sure im quite a bit off

    Comment by Tim — July 19, 2012 @ 5:42 pm

  37. He’s 28, had two 7+ WAR seasons, and under contract until 2020.

    Comment by Thomas Grantham — July 19, 2012 @ 5:44 pm

  38. Now accepting wagers on whether this is the “real” everdiso.

    Comment by Well-Beered Englishman — July 19, 2012 @ 5:48 pm

  39. Great player, great contract, too many injuries. I’ve have put him in the 30s myself.

    Comment by Well-Beered Englishman — July 19, 2012 @ 5:50 pm

  40. My fault read quick and was thinking of Jordan.

    Comment by TKP — July 19, 2012 @ 5:51 pm

  41. are you people serious? Did brett lawrie come into your homes and drug you? he is an ok young player but he simply isn’t that good yet, nor in my mind does he project to be anywhere on this list. I was going to go into the stat side of it, but instead why don’t one of you tell me why he should be in the top 50 statistically speaking. I hope it isnt because he had some good numbers in 150 AB’s last year

    Comment by garett68 — July 19, 2012 @ 5:52 pm

  42. Weiters is alteady on the list. @Ppabich duh good call about Hamilton. @Oren I know he’s an elite talent at the toughest position but in my eyes Tulo deserves to fall off the list. The guy just can’t stay on the field and has a contract thats equal parts lengthy and pricey. Don’t get me wrong I’d love him on my team and so would everyone else, but there has to come a point where this guy’s value has to take a serious hit because of his history with injuries.

    Comment by jpg — July 19, 2012 @ 5:56 pm

  43. This is where this project becomes a bit weird. There have been minor leaguers listed (including Bundy who hasn’t hit AA yet) ahead of guys who have already had success at the big league level. The big issue becomes how much is a big league track record valued? In Bundy and Profars cases Dave seems to think it does not matter because they are incredible prospects. Getting to your point on Lawrie, he has put up 5.1 WAR in 150 total games. That is more than any minor leaguer on this list. DO you have a problem with them being included as well?

    Comment by TKP — July 19, 2012 @ 5:59 pm

  44. If Brett Lawrie– of the 278/323/407 variety– is on this list, I’ll shit my pants.

    Comment by George Brett — July 19, 2012 @ 6:00 pm

  45. Mariners need to cash in on Felix and start from scratch. I mean, Jack Z’s “plan” about building around Smoak and Ackley… well, it ain’t gonna work.

    Comment by kid — July 19, 2012 @ 6:02 pm

  46. He combines above average offense with top-3 defensive value at his position, he’s still very young and has got room to improve, and he’s making league minimum. As the best young player at his position in baseball he’s going to be on this list, ranking so high is debateable of course, but his placing on this list, given it’s qualifiers is easily justified.

    Comment by TtD — July 19, 2012 @ 6:03 pm

  47. I mean, sure, but that doesn’t mean he couldn’t be had. If the Reds sent Votto, Cueto, and Bruce, Trout would be packing his bags for Cincinnati. It’d never happen, but there’s more to trades than “prospect package[s].”

    Comment by Anon21 — July 19, 2012 @ 6:03 pm

  48. Gabe Kapler, Joel Zumaya

    Comment by NRowe — July 19, 2012 @ 6:04 pm

  49. Considering where guys like Kipnis and Moustakas were, I don’t think it’s crazy for Lawrie to be somewhere in the #13-15 range. He’s at least a good defender at third (although a lot of stats may be overrating him), he was very well-regarded as a prospect, and he’s under team control for a long time still.

    Comment by mrauscher — July 19, 2012 @ 6:05 pm

  50. For those of you playing the “Cameron mentions Felix’ changeup” drinking game at home – bottoms up!

    Comment by kid — July 19, 2012 @ 6:06 pm

  51. Scoring 21 runs in one game kinda skews things a bit.

    Comment by Matt — July 19, 2012 @ 6:08 pm

  52. He’s a really good defender, flashed excellent power last year, and has a couple pre-arb seasons left. I think he’s a totally plausible top-15, although I’d really have expected to see him lower.

    Comment by Anon21 — July 19, 2012 @ 6:08 pm

  53. I’d say Kemp, Tulo, and Weaver in addition to those 12. I think Tulo has to drop quite a bit (I’d guess to the 11-15 group) but I can’t see him falling off the list entirely, he’s been too good when he plays.

    Comment by mrauscher — July 19, 2012 @ 6:08 pm

  54. I think Dave’s already said neither Zimmerman made the list.

    Comment by Anon21 — July 19, 2012 @ 6:09 pm

  55. I think that’s the real everdiso. He is definitely know for ridiculous anti-Red Sox bias, and it doesn’t seem quite “out there” enough to be coming from an impostor.

    Comment by Michael Scarn — July 19, 2012 @ 6:11 pm

  56. I would expect Heyward to place higher than Bautista and Tulo (injury/contract).

    Comment by Anon21 — July 19, 2012 @ 6:11 pm

  57. Jered Weaver still hasn’t made an appearance.

    Comment by Keysersoze3421 — July 19, 2012 @ 6:18 pm

  58. He should be on the list, and I think he will be. Problem is, they really passed the point where he should have appeared by now. People are giving way too much credence to his line last year.

    Comment by Colin — July 19, 2012 @ 6:25 pm

  59. good point, no one has mentioned him yet.

    Comment by Tim — July 19, 2012 @ 6:25 pm

  60. Giving him credit for that kind of defensive value with the amount of a sample you currently have is a bit absurd given how long it takes for defense to normalize.

    Comment by Colin — July 19, 2012 @ 6:28 pm

  61. I think Tulo’s contract is pretty favorable if he can stay healthy. I don’t think there is a doubt he is on this list.

    Comment by ppabich — July 19, 2012 @ 6:31 pm

  62. I love weav, but I don’t he’s top 15 (same with Sabathia) They are both in the middle of their prime, and the back end coming up. And although you can make the case they both get paid fairly, it will be a lot to pay during the downswing. But as an Angel fan I hope he’s on the list.

    Comment by ppabich — July 19, 2012 @ 6:33 pm

  63. He’s 22 and on pace for over 4 WAR this season; a season in which he’s under-performing with the bat.

    Comment by Garold — July 19, 2012 @ 6:36 pm

  64. Anon21 …

    That was just an example but honestly, I don’t think the Angels would even consider something like that. That would boost their payroll an additional $35m or so, cause redundancy at 1B and OF (where they already have too many players).

    Your premise though is correct. Of course, Trout is movable. Any player is. The cost would just be so prohibitive that it wouldn’t make much sense for anyone involved.

    Comment by BJ — July 19, 2012 @ 6:36 pm

  65. What do people see in Evan longoria? I’ve never thought he was that great

    Comment by Don Draper — July 19, 2012 @ 6:40 pm

  66. That was the name that kept jumping out on me. He definitely deserves to be on the list … somewhere in the 30′s-40′s seems reasonable given his age/contract. To leave him off altogether just doesn’t feel right.

    The guy is just 30, had back to back 5+ WAR seasons. Is on a similar pace this year (injury aside). He has to pitch like a 3.5 WAR pitcher to justify his contract. Pretty safe bet to generate at least 2 WAR above his pay grade for the next 2-3 years.

    Comment by BJ — July 19, 2012 @ 6:44 pm

  67. Longoria
    McCutchen
    Trout
    Bautista
    Kemp
    Strasburg
    Verlander
    Heyward
    Stanton
    Braun
    Harper
    Weaver
    Tulo
    Posey
    Lawrie

    But, honestly, Harper could be anywhere 2-10 depending on how much the author lets his personal bias cloud reality. Also, Posey and Lawrie should be in the 20s.

    Comment by TKDC — July 19, 2012 @ 6:47 pm

  68. Right, he’s definitely on the list. I’m just saying, I expect Heyward to rank ahead of him.

    Comment by Anon21 — July 19, 2012 @ 6:47 pm

  69. Other than the great defense, the great offense, and the great contract? Why, nothing at all.

    Comment by Anon21 — July 19, 2012 @ 6:49 pm

  70. Don Draper: great scout of women, poor scout of baseballers

    Comment by Well-Beered Englishman — July 19, 2012 @ 6:56 pm

  71. What about Aroldis Chapman? After spending this season putting hitters through a meat grinder, he’s not that expensive and he probably offers a lot of surplus value as a starter through. Even as a dominating RP, his bonus has been paid already, so he’s only earning a total of $10M for 2013, 2014, and 2015.

    Comment by rogue_actuary — July 19, 2012 @ 6:57 pm

  72. Take your pick. Nationals send their entire starting rotation. Tigers send Cabrera, Fielder, and Verlander and pick up half their contracts. The point is banal, but it stands: no one is untouchable. That’s really more or less the point of a series like this, since we all know that most of the guys in the top 20 would never actually be traded, because no one would want to pay what they’re worth.

    Comment by Anon21 — July 19, 2012 @ 6:59 pm

  73. Nope, no relievers. You could theoretically convert a lot of guys and speculate about how well they’d do in the rotation, but Chapman doesn’t get extra credit because the Reds originally planned to start him and then abandoned that plan.

    Comment by Anon21 — July 19, 2012 @ 7:02 pm

  74. His contract is actually more complicated than that. He should qualify for arbitration after 2013, which means the $3 MM salary gets converted to a bonus and he starts going through arbitration. He’s also under team control past 2015, as he still won’t have 6+ years of service time, but its going to be pretty expensive and he’s still never shown he can be a SP. You just can’t make the case for a pitcher that’s unproven as a starter as among the 50 most valuable trade chips in baseball.

    Comment by Nitram Odarp — July 19, 2012 @ 7:09 pm

  75. I thought Chapman would have made sense somewhere on the list — like you alluded to, even as a reliever his value should exceed the cost of his remaining contract, with some upside in case he worked out as a SP.

    But it’s gotten too high for him to show up now…I would have put him somewhere around 40…

    Comment by mrauscher — July 19, 2012 @ 7:11 pm

  76. Go to my blog at Average-Casey.blogspot.com I have a post about this.

    Comment by Average_Casey — July 19, 2012 @ 7:19 pm

  77. JOSH REDDICK JOSH REDDICK JOSH REDDICK, how no one mentions him, why he is constantly undervalued / seen as a scrub is something I never understand, team controlled until 2017………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………… lol Brett Lawrie made it………………………………………………………………………………………………..

    Comment by DRS2Impress — July 19, 2012 @ 7:21 pm

  78. My bad, I misread your comment.

    Comment by ppabich — July 19, 2012 @ 7:41 pm

  79. Wright’s a free agent after this season, if he’s traded. And he’s only locked up through next year if he stays in NY. I don’t see how he can be close to the top of the list, despite his performance this year.

    Comment by vivalajeter — July 19, 2012 @ 7:44 pm

  80. Oh cool man! Can’t wait to check it out!

    Comment by Brad — July 19, 2012 @ 7:46 pm

  81. Hey you guys, it’s me, CLogdorp.
    I’m having a really hard time right now, you guys.
    It’s been a pretty rough day. Ugh. There’s really only one thing to get me through this…………
    TOGETHER NOW!

    Y-U-N-I-E-he never hits popups in the S-K-Y
    when you go to Vegas you lay down a B-E-T, then there’s an A-N, his defensive skills are illegal, they’ll see you in C-O-U-R-T.

    What does that spell?
    The name of a man who is in the top 15 most valuable trade assets.

    Comment by CLogdorp — July 19, 2012 @ 8:01 pm

  82. Half a season? Corner outfielder?

    Comment by colin — July 19, 2012 @ 9:19 pm

  83. I’m super pumped that Cuddyer will be in the top 15 this year!

    Comment by monkey business — July 19, 2012 @ 9:20 pm

  84. I’m disappointed but not at all surprised that no one has mentioned Josh Reddick, currently 9th in the AL in WAR, 140 wRC+, with a seemingly sustainable .300 BABIP, and he’s pre-arb. I realize he wasn’t great in the minors but his defense and incredible arm mean he’ll still be valuable if his hitting falls off somewhat.

    I wouldn’t think he’d be top-20 but I thought he’d make the top 50.

    Comment by Nick O — July 19, 2012 @ 9:24 pm

  85. Cameron already said in his chat that noone who was a FA after this or next season was on the list except for Cano, so Wright and Hamilton are out.

    Comment by BX — July 19, 2012 @ 9:27 pm

  86. Weaver and two others who were previously unranked would be my guess.

    Can’t see Kemp, Ells, or Tulo because of the injuries.

    Comment by BX — July 19, 2012 @ 9:31 pm

  87. Perhaps Colin, but he passes the eye test, rough with some of the more timing based plays (as you’d expect of someone relatively new to the position), but with exceptional range and reactions and with the armstrength to bail himself out on occasion. You can attribute some of the stats results this year to the Jays positioning skill, but it’s not like you look at him and see a lead-footed clutz.

    Comment by TtD — July 19, 2012 @ 9:38 pm

  88. If Chapman showed up, Kimbrel would probably need to be on here too. Better money situation, extremely similar results, both absolutely filthy. I’m not sure where I land on the decision to exclude both of them. On the one hand, we know GMs overvalue closers, and both of them rack up saves while posting mind-boggling peripherals. On the other hand, they’re not really as valuable as all that, given usage patterns

    Comment by Anon21 — July 19, 2012 @ 9:53 pm

  89. I’ll say…fake everdiso.

    Comment by Mcneildon — July 19, 2012 @ 9:58 pm

  90. I’m confused as to why Cabrera is ranked #18 this year but was unranked last year, especially since, as noted, his offensive production has declined slightly. At this time last year he was owed about $96 million and now he’s owed about $75 million, but that difference doesn’t seem large enough to justify a jump from unranked to #18. I don’t disagree with the #18 ranking now, but it seems an admission that it was a mistake to leave him off last year’s list.

    Comment by Jeff — July 19, 2012 @ 10:20 pm

  91. Im just blown away that Vernon Wells has not been mentioned for one of the remaining 15 spots

    Comment by Paul — July 19, 2012 @ 10:20 pm

  92. My guess is that his contract suddenly looks almost team-friendly after the huge contracts given out this offseason, the great second half he had last year, and the fact that’s he’s played (mostly) passable third base this year. In the last 12 months, he’s improved his stock, even with the slight step back in offense this season. I don’t think he belongs at #18, but he definitely deserved to make the list.

    Comment by Josh — July 19, 2012 @ 11:07 pm

  93. Thanks for the help, folks. Glad you mostly agree with my 12, at least. Lawrie was the 12th, but he’s definitely top 50, and hasn’t appeared yet, so….

    Kemp, Tulo, and Weaver, I believe is the consensus finish. Kemp I can’t believe I missed. Tulo is still a value contract, despite recent struggles, just like Longoria (although the contract isn’t THAT juicy). I suppose Weaver makes sense, as he signed with the same structure as Felix and Verlander. I’d have had Felix over Weaver, but that’s just nitpicking.

    Comment by tmorgan1970 — July 19, 2012 @ 11:57 pm

  94. Per Dave Cameron in the 25-29 thread:

    “3. I talked about this in the “What I Learned” post, but based on feedback from some folks in the game, I’ve adjusted the penalty applied to good players with big contracts. With the explosion of new revenue from TV deals, a lot of these contracts look better in a few years than they do when they get signed, which is why you see expensive other expensive guys like Carlos Gonzalez climbing the list and Kinsler not dropping even after he gets his $75 million deal. ”

    And then from the “What I learned from” piece:
    “Pretty much any quality player eligible for arbitration is always on the verge of receiving a significant amount of guaranteed money, so having several years of club control at undefined prices is probably less valuable than I’ve given it credit for in prior years. As such, supremely talented players with big contracts — the Kemps, Brauns, and Verlanders of the world — will be penalized less for making a lot of money on this year’s list than they probably would have been in the past. They might not be the best value in terms of production to salary ratio, but premium players locked up for several years at reasonable salaries are still highly coveted players, and I’ve been convinced that teams would still pay a high price to obtain a star player even if that guy is being paid like a star player. “

    Comment by HerseyChris — July 20, 2012 @ 12:57 am

  95. Wondering if Hankey Ramirez makes the list…

    Comment by Don Draper — July 20, 2012 @ 2:08 am

  96. Hanley gets PAID and has disappointed with the stick for 240 games now. Don’t think so,

    Comment by tmorgan1970 — July 20, 2012 @ 3:14 am

  97. Hanley is on pace for a 3 WAR year, and is paid 15 MM – so right at market value, and I don’t think anyone would doubt the likelihood of upgression is very high.

    Comment by Zach — July 20, 2012 @ 9:01 am

  98. Willie Bloomquist & Ichiro

    Comment by Dongcopter — July 20, 2012 @ 9:56 am

  99. I’d grade that post out at somewhere near average.

    Comment by Dongcopter — July 20, 2012 @ 9:59 am

  100. if his comments get positive feedback, nothing happens. if they get negative feedback, he’s always being trolled.

    hmmm….

    Comment by Sleight of Hand Pro — July 20, 2012 @ 10:22 am

  101. No.1 definetely has to be Shawn Figgins

    Comment by Joshua — July 20, 2012 @ 10:34 am

  102. @ Garold — generally, I agree with the sentiment but it’s really premature to say that a guy who’s been in the big leagues all of 1 season is “underperforming with the bat” in his last 4 months. There’s so little track record to go by, we can’t reasonably conclude that this season’s performance won’t be his median or even his peak performance.

    Like you, I think he’ll only get better but he has so little to go on that we can’t call this season’s performance “underperforming.”

    Comment by chuckb — July 20, 2012 @ 10:47 am

  103. Count me shocked by that, too. I had to read it over a few times just to let it sink in.

    Comment by Big Jgke — July 20, 2012 @ 10:52 am

  104. I’ll bite.

    Let’s begin with the fact that he’s been in the big leagues less than 1 full season and has already been worth more than 5 wins. Then, I’ll mention that he’s just 22, is dirt cheap, and has 5 years of team control left.

    Or maybe I was just drugged into believing all that.

    Comment by chuckb — July 20, 2012 @ 10:54 am

  105. Decaf.

    Comment by chuckb — July 20, 2012 @ 10:56 am

  106. That makes it all the more ridiculous that Dan O’Dowd won’t consider trading him, considering all the value he’ll return.

    Comment by chuckb — July 20, 2012 @ 10:57 am

  107. Is this what Hanley Ramirez calls his #2s?

    Comment by Cartman — July 20, 2012 @ 10:58 am

  108. Wonder if there would be any changes to the worst 5-10 contracts.

    Comment by Anthony — July 20, 2012 @ 11:37 am

  109. @ Nick O

    To some degree, as Dave mentioned in his “What I learned from last year” post, he’s valuing proven production moreso than a low salary. If Reddick performs like this next year as well, I think he’s a lock for next year’s list.

    Comment by BX — July 20, 2012 @ 12:42 pm

  110. Is B N jocking?
    Carl Crawford has a horrible contract since the team perspective you would be paying so much, 20m/year until 2017 for a somebody playing worse every year. OMG

    Comment by Gonzalo Hiram — July 20, 2012 @ 9:36 pm

  111. It helps me keep perspective that’s Felix is about six weeks younger than my kid. My kid is fine, but he’s not winning any Cy Young awards.

    Comment by Breadbaker — July 21, 2012 @ 1:24 am

  112. This.

    What would you rather have?
    2 yrs of King Felix and $9M
    or 7!! Years of MadBum

    It’s a no brainer, IMO.

    Even if Dave is penalizing arb eligible guys, that shouldn’t affect MadBum, if anything, he’s worth more.

    Comment by Nivra — July 21, 2012 @ 1:35 pm

  113. Just had to memorialize this while it was still at +125: http://i.imgur.com/UL5q8.png

    Comment by bsally — July 21, 2012 @ 2:37 pm

  114. anybody who thinks Kemp will not be on this list is crazy. under contract for another 7 years at a relatively team friendly price compared to other big deals, contract only takes him to his mid 30′s (not late 30′s), AND he is good on defense.

    o yea and he has already blasted 2 homeruns since coming back (one was a walk off) and a triple, i think the hammy is fine.

    Comment by Derrick — July 21, 2012 @ 6:37 pm

  115. IBB looks pretty minor, but certainly his overall BB rate is down quite a bit. That’s really the only difference in his offense this year compared to last year’s dominant season.

    I know there isn’t a lot of statistical support for protection, but I can’t help but think that perhaps with Fielder behind him, Leyland is encouraging Cabrera to be more aggressive. I know that seems counter-intuitive, but if we try to think like crusty old Leyland, the rationale is probably that he should swing more because with Fielder behind him the pitches will be better.

    The really odd thing is that there’s nothing in Cabrera’s numbers that clearly explains his drop in OBP. His K% is good, his batted ball rates are in line with career expectations, and his plate discipline numbers aren’t much different than right where he’s been in his Tiger career. For some reason, his BB% has declined, and that’s about it. That’s why I can’t help but wonder if it has something to do with Fielder and Leyland.

    Comment by Nathan — July 24, 2012 @ 9:03 am

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