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  1. Trout is the greatest 20 year old that I’ve ever seen.

    Comment by Rippers — July 26, 2012 @ 11:30 am

  2. He’s not a bad young player. The Angels ought to think about keeping him at the major league level all season next year. I think starting him at AAA serves no real purpose.

    Comment by chuckb — July 26, 2012 @ 11:31 am

  3. Should we take those historical WARs with a grain of saltm given the defensive uncertainty?

    Comment by Ira — July 26, 2012 @ 11:32 am

  4. Fred Lynn & Ichiro better move over – Trout is joining their exclusive club of winning ROY + MVP in the same season.

    Comment by JS7 — July 26, 2012 @ 11:33 am

  5. Dave, curious if Trout would have ranked a little lower on the Fangraphs trade value series if he wasn’t having one of the greatest seasons of all-time given age?

    Did that sway you to give him the throne?

    Comment by AL Eastbound — July 26, 2012 @ 11:33 am

  6. Yup.

    Comment by Steve — July 26, 2012 @ 11:35 am

  7. Clown article bro.

    Comment by Bryce Harper — July 26, 2012 @ 11:36 am

  8. I apologize if this come off as ignorant, but is that the plan the Angels have right now? Send him down to AAA next year?

    Comment by yaboynate — July 26, 2012 @ 11:37 am

  9. I would have to think so. If he was merely “good” this year (think typical rookie of the year season vs. MVP season), he’d probably “only” rank in the top 3.

    What he is doing now is just insane.

    Comment by Steve — July 26, 2012 @ 11:37 am

  10. For lack of anything better to say, Mike Trout is good at baseball.

    Comment by Kevin — July 26, 2012 @ 11:38 am

  11. So, the first sentence makes me think you are lauding by understatement, which then makes me think the AAA comment is sarcasm or facetiousness. But I don’t know the Angels context. They aren’t talking about starting him at AAA next year, right?

    Comment by LTG — July 26, 2012 @ 11:39 am

  12. “Dave, if trout wasnt as good as he is, would you have ranked him as high as you did?”

    Sorry. Had to….

    Comment by ryan — July 26, 2012 @ 11:39 am

  13. All things considered, how likely is Mike Trout to eventually end up in the Hall of Fame?


    Comment by Peter — July 26, 2012 @ 11:42 am

  14. Mike Trout has achieved singularity.

    Comment by IronyMan — July 26, 2012 @ 11:43 am

  15. The Angels have a history of developing young talented outfielders with an icthyology friendly nomenclature. (See: Salmon, Tim)…Alas, if only they had acquired Kevin Bass.

    Comment by Evan — July 26, 2012 @ 11:46 am

  16. Mike Carp.

    Comment by Slats — July 26, 2012 @ 11:49 am

  17. Yikes, you guys need to work on your sarcasm detectors.

    Comment by Oliver — July 26, 2012 @ 11:49 am

  18. It certainly looks like he has that level of talent, but there are just too many things that could go wrong to give him a 80% chance already. Look at guys like Dwight Gooden mentioned in the article, he could have dropped off from his rookie year performance and still ended up a Hall of Famer, but he didn’t come close. From a position player standpoint, look at guys like Fred Lynn or Darryl Strawberry.

    Having said that, I’m in no hurry to bet AGAINST Trout making the Hall of Fame, even if he may still be less than a 50/50 shot.

    Comment by mrauscher — July 26, 2012 @ 11:50 am

  19. Absurdity is fun, kiddos. In this wacko world, it’ll often help keep ya goin’.

    Comment by Matt NW — July 26, 2012 @ 11:50 am

  20. Mike Trout is so good, he once was blocked by Bobby Abreu AND Vernon Wells, who had a combined 0.7 WAR in 2011.

    Comment by Impossibles — July 26, 2012 @ 11:50 am

  21. I wish Dustin Ackley was this good.

    Comment by Slats — July 26, 2012 @ 11:51 am

  22. The thing is that the year he’s having does actually inform how good he’ll be in the future. Yes, regression is inevitable, but sticking to prospect rankings for too long is unwise when they so frequently turn out looking silly.

    At this point, assuming Harper will be a better pro than Trout is silly. It’s a loser bet.

    Comment by TKDC — July 26, 2012 @ 11:54 am

  23. Trout.

    Comment by Sleight of Hand Pro — July 26, 2012 @ 12:01 pm

  24. So is he going to be the first 300 million dollar player at age 26?

    Comment by nik — July 26, 2012 @ 12:06 pm

  25. I was just joking.

    I did hear, however, that Vernon Wells has some photos of Jerry DiPoto. Not sure what that means.

    Comment by chuckb — July 26, 2012 @ 12:12 pm

  26. Well isn’t 60 WAR basically the cut point? So if he puts up a 10 WAR season to start he’s already 1/6th of the way there. Insane.

    Comment by Colin — July 26, 2012 @ 12:12 pm

  27. That’s a little premature considering the fact that he’s been in the big leagues less than 1 season.

    80% chance at the Hall? I’d say that, right now, he’s closer to 8% than 80%.

    Comment by chuckb — July 26, 2012 @ 12:13 pm

  28. How was Mike Trout’s age 19 season?

    Comment by nobleisthyname — July 26, 2012 @ 12:13 pm

  29. Trout, 6.0 WAR at age 20 in less than half a seasons worth of games. Alfredo Griffin, 3.1 WAR in 7300 PA

    Comment by Eric R — July 26, 2012 @ 12:14 pm

  30. Dave, what do you think the chances are that in 20-30 years we dub Mike Trout the greatest of all time?

    Also, great article. Can we get a weekly update/edition of Mike Trout facts?

    Comment by KrunchyGoodness — July 26, 2012 @ 12:14 pm

  31. I would imagine that you wished that the entire Mariners’ position players were this good.

    Comment by chuckb — July 26, 2012 @ 12:15 pm

  32. Kate Upton turned 20 last month.

    Comment by Well-Beered Englishman — July 26, 2012 @ 12:23 pm

  33. His wRC+ is better than any season of Albert Pujols’ career, and he combines that with elite defense in center field.

    Comment by Vin — July 26, 2012 @ 12:24 pm

  34. He is certainly the best of the current players named after fish (Mike Carp and Anthony Bass).

    Comment by Mel — July 26, 2012 @ 12:24 pm

  35. Considering 6/10 of the players with 6-WAR age-20 seasons are in the hall, and one is headed there, I’d say the odds are a bit better than 8% at this point.

    Comment by ramsey — July 26, 2012 @ 12:25 pm

  36. I don’t get all the fuss. The best year Steve Trout ever had was 1984 when he put up 3.7 WAR. Other than that he was about a 1 win pitcher…hardly Hall of Fame worthy.

    Plus, why is everybody talking about him now, he’s been retired for years.

    Comment by Homer — July 26, 2012 @ 12:27 pm

  37. You should’ve seen this girl I was walking behind on the street the other day.

    Comment by JF145 — July 26, 2012 @ 12:29 pm

  38. Will probably have a better career than Tim Salmon and even Catfish Hunter

    Comment by nik — July 26, 2012 @ 12:31 pm

  39. As good or better than almost every inner circle hall of famer. My only question is what are the Harptards going to say next season when Golden Boy, if he’s lucky, is half as good as Trout age-20?

    Comment by TKDC — July 26, 2012 @ 12:31 pm

  40. @nobleisthyname So you think Harper will also have the best age 20 season based on WAR/600 PA of all time?

    Comment by KrunchyGoodness — July 26, 2012 @ 12:33 pm

  41. You’re an idiot

    Comment by Todd — July 26, 2012 @ 12:38 pm

  42. I agree with Steve, if Trout were merely mortal (nobody expects this to be a normal Trout season right?) I don’t think he ranks number one.

    One or two spots don’t make much of a difference I know but to be called THE MOST valuable player is still something.

    Legitimate question IMO.

    But good to see ‘sorry, had to’ and clown question get the appropriate level of respect.

    Comment by AL Eastbound — July 26, 2012 @ 12:39 pm

  43. You’re a moron

    Comment by Todd — July 26, 2012 @ 12:39 pm

  44. Better than Jason Heyward’s chances I hope.

    Comment by AL Eastbound — July 26, 2012 @ 12:40 pm

  45. He’ll have a much harder time having the best career for a “Mike.”

    Comment by TKDC — July 26, 2012 @ 12:41 pm

  46. Take your best shot at these Mike Trout hypotheticals:

    1. Percent chance of Mike Trout ending up in Hall of Fame?
    2. 2012 WAR total?
    2. Career HR and SB totals:
    3. If the Angels were to offer him a 10 year deal today, what is the lowest amount he would accept?
    4. Career WAR total?
    5. Assuming he reaches free agency ASAP, what does his contract look like?

    Comment by Peter — July 26, 2012 @ 12:41 pm

  47. I think the most important comparison between Gooden and Trout is that Trout does considerably less blow, according to all reports.

    Comment by Marcus Turner — July 26, 2012 @ 12:41 pm

  48. He also saved me and my cat from a burning building yesterday. Thanks Mike!

    Comment by Nick — July 26, 2012 @ 12:43 pm

  49. Sorry about the typo:

    1. 80 %
    2a. 10.2
    2b. 440 HR, 660 SB
    3. $110M
    4. 95
    5. 10 YR, $300M

    Comment by Peter — July 26, 2012 @ 12:44 pm

  50. GOAT, automatic first-ballot HOFer…. all he has to do is the same thing he’s been doing for another 20 years:

    4640 career hits
    3020 career runs
    620 career home runs
    2000 career rbi’s

    It’s unclear what could possibly stop him from achieving these totals.

    Comment by dzigga — July 26, 2012 @ 12:47 pm

  51. Well for arguments sake if you look at the 10 guys above it would leave him at 60%. But anything can happen that we can’t predict. Lets just let him finish a full season before talking about him being a hall of famer.

    Comment by Joe — July 26, 2012 @ 12:48 pm

  52. 1. 60%
    2. 9.0
    2. 350HR/500SB
    3. Don’t want to do the math on team control discounts
    4. 100WAR
    5. 10 years; 250 million

    Comment by ataraxia_ — July 26, 2012 @ 12:54 pm

  53. 1. I’d say 25% at this point. Anything can happen in the next 20 years. But historically speaking, he’s got at least a decent shot.
    2. I’d say around 9-9.5 WAR. He’s not used to the length and grind of an MLB season and might tire out a bit towards the last month. Plus he has to regress at least a little bit… eventually. Right?
    3. 10 years… probably at least $150M.
    4. Assuming he stays healthy, 60-80.
    5. If he even remotely keeps up this pace and becomes a FA at age 26… the sky is the limit. $300M+

    Comment by Nick — July 26, 2012 @ 12:54 pm

  54. This is all a conspiracy by MLB! Pitchers are being ordered to serve up meatballs and let him steal! Hitters are being told to ignotrre babip and hit balls directly towards center!

    ‘Gota ask the question!’

    Trout is actually a Dolphin and is plotting to take over the world ala Simpsons!

    Comment by Tinfoil Hat — July 26, 2012 @ 12:58 pm

  55. Trout may not be old enough to legally drink booze, but I know what he does drink a lot of–Ovaltine™. Lots and lots of Ovaltine™.

    Comment by Mike B. — July 26, 2012 @ 12:58 pm

  56. Frank Robinson’s age 20 season was 1956

    Comment by Bobby — July 26, 2012 @ 1:02 pm

  57. Unlike the utter certainty we have now after half a season of data…

    Comment by YanksFanInBeantown — July 26, 2012 @ 1:03 pm

  58. @KrunchyGoodness

    So what Trout is doing is totally sustainable and it’s not at all premature to anoint him as the greatest 20 year old of all time after half a season worth of data?

    Good to know.

    Comment by YanksFanInBeantown — July 26, 2012 @ 1:05 pm

  59. I’m hoping the Angels lock him up to a long-term deal after the season is over, maybe something like 10 years, $100-120 million. That would work for both parties, I think. He’d still be relatively young when he hits free agency at age 31.

    Certainly regression is due, but 20-year olds don’t play this well for this long without staying at or near this level. I wouldn’t be surprised to see ~.330/.420/.550 with 25+ HR and 40+ SB be his norm throughout his 20s, with a few seasons above that, maybe even a shot at .400 if everything aligns perfectly.

    On the other hand, it is fun to think about the possibility that he could get better. I mean, why not? He has improved in every month; I’d be surprised if August is better than July, but maybe it won’t be that much below it. Certainly history shows that when players start off this well they usually don’t get that much better; a lot o all-time greats start at a very high level and simply maintain it, or fluctuate a bit above and below it (Alex Rodriguez being a good example). But I don’t think we can write off the possibility that we’re seeing someone with the potential to play at a whole new level.

    Comment by Angelsjunky — July 26, 2012 @ 1:06 pm

  60. Tony Conigliaro disagrees.

    Comment by YanksFanInBeantown — July 26, 2012 @ 1:06 pm

  61. He’s currently a deserving candidate, but does anyone really think the voters will choose him on a team with Trumbo and Weaver having great seasons, to go along with good performances from name players like Pujols and CJ Wilson? I’m thinking not.

    Comment by Nathan — July 26, 2012 @ 1:12 pm

  62. How does one find the leaderboard for monthly WAR?

    Comment by tacoman — July 26, 2012 @ 1:12 pm

  63. @TKDC

    All we know is that age 19 Harper > age 19 Trout. Yes, age 20 Trout will most probably be better than age 20 Harper but it is still an assumption.

    So please tell me from this information how you are so certain that Trout will be a better pro than Harper when all is said and done.


    Not at all.

    Comment by nobleisthyname — July 26, 2012 @ 1:14 pm

  64. it does lose a little humor when the article title is “Mike Trout Facts” and he’s referred to as Mike Trout no fewer than 4 times.

    Comment by Sleight of Hand Pro — July 26, 2012 @ 1:15 pm

  65. While this comment added nothing to the discussion, I cannot bring myself to “thumbs down” it. It’s classic trolling, yet Todd has managed to not misspell “You’re”, thereby separating himself from the pack and distinguishing himself as an upper tier troll. To that, I say: bravo Todd, bravo.

    Comment by Internet Police — July 26, 2012 @ 1:16 pm

  66. Dave stated in the series that Harper was first until the last few insane weeks of Trout.

    Comment by Matty Brown — July 26, 2012 @ 1:19 pm

  67. I disagree. I think the Trout narrative is WAAAAAY too powerful for the writers to ignore. A rookie of the year and MVP?

    The writers will look at the Angel’s performance in April and their performance after Trout showed up, and credit him with their season.

    Barring a huge collapse, it’s his to lose IMHO.

    Comment by Steve — July 26, 2012 @ 1:22 pm

  68. You do know that Robert Fish is currently on the Angels’ Triple-A roster, right?

    Comment by Bryan Grosnick — July 26, 2012 @ 1:26 pm

  69. I just find it interesting that no one is talking about his power potential and how he is on pace for 30+ home runs as a 20 year old. What is his ultimate power potential?

    Comment by scott — July 26, 2012 @ 1:27 pm

  70. Well, it certainly works for the Angels.

    For Trout, that would be a terribly conservative bet.

    Comment by Steve — July 26, 2012 @ 1:30 pm

  71. Now you’re just milking it. Thumbs down.

    Comment by Internet Police — July 26, 2012 @ 1:31 pm

  72. If he continues anywhere near his current pace, it wouldn’t be all that surprising if that contract is closer to 400 million than 300 million.

    Comment by GoToWarMissAgnes — July 26, 2012 @ 1:46 pm

  73. He is great power potential and SB totals in his future but not a .400 batting average; he strikes out way too much. I saw a good Bill James article showing that he would have to roughly halve his strike out rate to get a 0.400 batting average at his current BABIP of over 40%.

    Comment by kind of — July 26, 2012 @ 1:46 pm

  74. Yeah, what’s with these ideas that he would sign a 10 year deal for something in the $100-125 million range? Factoring in inflation, it’s entirely possible (if not likely) he’d make that much in just the four years of free agency that such a contract would buy out, meaning he’d be playing his arbitration years for free. If the Angels offered him a 10 year deal right now, $150 million would have to be the starting point.

    Comment by GoToWarMissAgnes — July 26, 2012 @ 1:51 pm

  75. 10/120 is impossible as nobody should accept buying out 5 FA years(at least worth 22 mil each and at most 30+), even the vaunted Longoria contract only bought out 3 FA) plus the 2 Arb years(each 10 mil+)

    Comment by RandomFan — July 26, 2012 @ 1:51 pm

  76. Not saying he’s likely to do either of these things, but whenever somebody gets a 30+ game hitting streak or is hitting .380+ by the midpoint, there are always articles about how hard it would be to hit the magic numbers. These articles usually describe the type of hitter it would take: lots of line drives and ground balls from someone with great speed. He probably needs to cut down on the Ks and make a little more contact, but he seems like the absolutely perfect candidate to make a serious chase.

    As an aside, as cool as it is to watch players chase down 40/40, it’s going to be cooler to see a guy go 30/80.

    Comment by GoToWarMissAgnes — July 26, 2012 @ 1:56 pm

  77. This isn’t Harper who have 80 power, this is Trout with what scout before this season say about a 50-55 power tool(15-20HR was the KLaw projection) so I say 25 during his prime years is more likely than 35, but with his 80 speed he could hit enough triples still have a high SLG%.

    Comment by RandomFan — July 26, 2012 @ 1:56 pm

  78. People don’t like hearing these things, but I think Trout is playing over his head at the moment, at least on offense regarding his power. Pitchers are still developing a book on him and no one has consistently figured out his weaknesses, but some smart pitcher will eventually figure out a hole.

    I still doubt he ever hits 45 homers in a season, especially if he plays in Anaheim his whole career.

    Comment by Phantom Stranger — July 26, 2012 @ 1:56 pm

  79. I think that makes it funnier. Or is it more funny? Either way…

    Comment by Homer — July 26, 2012 @ 1:56 pm

  80. Mike Trout is a black hole?

    Comment by PiratesHurdles — July 26, 2012 @ 2:02 pm

  81. Yeah, this speculation is silly. No way he does a deal for longer than 6-7 years. I realize everyone keeps saying “regression is coming!!” Well, regression to what? An 8 WAR 20yo? Ridiculous. Trout is looking to sign a $300-350mm deal when he is 26, not sign away his life until he is 29 at a below-market rate.

    Comment by Jonathan — July 26, 2012 @ 2:15 pm

  82. That’s not all we know. We also know Trout is in the middle of one of the greatest age-20 seasons, if not the greatest, of all time.

    Harper had a better age-19 season than say, Willie Mays. Does that mean, because we have no other data for Harper, we should ignore the remainder of May’s career and say that it is premature to predict Harper’s career will fall short?

    You say it is an assumption. That’s what we’re doing here. We’re assuming. As of now, Harper’s career falls short of Jeff Blauser, but predicting it will end that way is retarded.

    The data that exists for both players, taken as a whole, suggests Trout is more likely to have a better career.

    Comment by TKDC — July 26, 2012 @ 2:18 pm

  83. @YanksFanInBeantown I think it is too early to expect him to regress, stay even, or improve.

    With that said, his 10.3 WAR/600 PA is the best for a 20 year old beating the A. Rod’s second best 8.7. I think that is a fairly decent difference to account for any error due to the sample sizes.

    So I do not find it hard to say that he has had or will have the best 20 year old season of all time.

    On top of that, he has not been in the big leagues long enough to make any statements about BABIP regression (which I hate the idea of anyway, no matter how long a player has played).

    What we do have is a trend in his wOBA:

    He is continuously getting better as each day passes. Does he continue to get better? I don’t know, but it seems possible. Does he ever regress? I don’t know. It seems like the more he sees a pitcher and the more he sees any pitcher, he gets better. Sure there are diminishing returns, but it he certainly hasn’t yet reached the level of best season we know possible (Babe Ruth 1920, 13.8 WAR/600 PA).

    Comment by KrunchyGoodness — July 26, 2012 @ 2:19 pm

  84. No, your a moron

    Comment by Jimmy — July 26, 2012 @ 2:21 pm

  85. Yeah, I think everyone realizes Trout is playing “over his head” right now. If he wasn’t, we’re essentially saying he is the greatest player in the history of MLB.

    Comment by Steve — July 26, 2012 @ 2:22 pm

  86. I thought you were joking, but in this case I had to check. Carry on.

    Comment by yaboynate — July 26, 2012 @ 2:23 pm

  87. trout is so good, and such a great kid, he’ll play for free… Jetes!

    Comment by illinibob — July 26, 2012 @ 2:37 pm

  88. I love Mike Trout, he’s almost single-handedly put me back into contention in my fantasy league, but 77 games is just too small a sample size to be talking about the “best ever” yet.

    Bautista was outpacing him after 77 games last year and “only” ended up with 8.3 WAR. And his BABIP was nowhere near as insane/unsustainable as Trout’s is right now.

    And, last thing, none of the other seasons listed use UZR or even include baserunning, so it’s a little disingenuous to act like his WAR is an apples to apples comparison. I doubt his baserunning this year is significantly better than A-Rod’s, Cobb’s or Mantle’s 20 year old seasons.

    Comment by YanksFanInBeantown — July 26, 2012 @ 2:49 pm

  89. @TKDC

    “The data that exists for both players, taken as a whole, suggests Trout is more likely to have a better career.”

    Sure. But there’s the problem. At this point there is far too little data to make any serious claim about which player will have the more illustrated career.

    Comment by nobleisthyname — July 26, 2012 @ 3:13 pm

  90. if Trout were merely mortal (nobody expects this to be a normal Trout season right?) I don’t think he ranks number one.

    Nobody expects this to a be a normal Trout season, but it’s crazy to not Bayesian update your expectations for Trout upwards because of this season.

    Therefore, even though no one should expect Trout to replicate this, everybody should have increased their expectations for Trout based on this season. Thus, yes, it’s entirely reasonable to have moved him from #3 or #2 to #1 based on this.

    Comment by John Thacker — July 26, 2012 @ 3:17 pm

  91. Moran?

    Comment by Radivel — July 26, 2012 @ 3:17 pm

  92. Are you sure? Have you seen how fast Trout moves?

    Comment by db — July 26, 2012 @ 3:37 pm

  93. I think I saw Dave giving Trout a reach around in the alley the other night.

    Comment by anon — July 26, 2012 @ 3:42 pm

  94. I’d give it about 0.3%, which is probably a bit generous.

    Comment by funketown — July 26, 2012 @ 3:54 pm

  95. I dont think Dave could get his grip around Trout’s hog, to be honest.

    Comment by HalosPhan — July 26, 2012 @ 4:03 pm

  96. I wish any of our young guys were half this good.

    Comment by D.t. — July 26, 2012 @ 4:43 pm

  97. I gotta disagree with Steve here. Some significant percentage of the writers will look at how the Angels did in April, then look at how they did later – and then will immediately give all the credit to Pujols turning it around (with maybe his “veteran leadership” being thrown in for good measure).

    Comment by Westside guy — July 26, 2012 @ 4:51 pm

  98. @Nathan and Westside,

    You guys seem to forget that Ryan Braun won MVP last year even thou his teammate finished 3rd in voting and a guy in LA had a better season. The argument that Trumbo, Pujols, or Weaver could essentially take away votes is invalid.

    Comment by Robert — July 26, 2012 @ 5:10 pm

  99. I think 30 HR power is realistic. Several of his homers this year have been impressive “excuse me” homers to the opposite field or CF. He’s not just roping stuff down the line. He’s just connecting cleanly and the ball is going into the seats.

    Comment by Nash — July 26, 2012 @ 5:11 pm

  100. Using the “Split” drop-down

    Comment by James — July 26, 2012 @ 5:17 pm

  101. 1. 54.3%
    2. 8.4
    2. 312/568
    3. 108.5
    4. 70.1
    5. 8/180

    Comment by TKDC — July 26, 2012 @ 5:42 pm

  102. True but considering he has played half the games as Pujols played in most of his years, then I have to think that Pujols had a 188 wRC+ in a lot of 77 game spans. Not taking anything away from the season he is having but the season has 2 months left so I think waiting to crown someone king should wait until then.

    Comment by jj — July 26, 2012 @ 6:58 pm

  103. You can count me among the people that believed that Harper would have a better career than Trout, based on the scouts’ projections, but now believes Trout will have a better career than Harper, based on what we’ve seen this year.

    Either way, it’ll be fun to find out.

    Comment by Jon L. — July 26, 2012 @ 7:01 pm

  104. Griffey put up 2.8 WAR at 19, not 20. He was 5.3 WAR at 20.

    Comment by philosofool — July 26, 2012 @ 7:01 pm

  105. Robert Fish? Be more specific.

    Comment by Jon L. — July 26, 2012 @ 7:02 pm

  106. what’s saltm?

    Comment by jim — July 26, 2012 @ 7:05 pm

  107. I pitched against Trout when we were 12. He was great for his age, but no way did I think he’d ever make it to the bigs. So many kids looked like studs and flamed out by high school ball. This guy just continued on an upward trend and I root for this guy with all my heart

    Comment by Dalton — July 26, 2012 @ 7:06 pm

  108. yeah, might want to temper those expectations

    Comment by jim — July 26, 2012 @ 7:07 pm

  109. this is a lot less clever than you thought it was

    Comment by jim — July 26, 2012 @ 7:12 pm

  110. Didn’t Jeter want/get an 18 mill a year contract at age 35 or 36?

    Comment by Doc — July 26, 2012 @ 7:12 pm

  111. 1) 72% chance of the Hall of Fame. I’d gladly wager with anyone who only thinks he’s only 20-25% and wants to pay me 3:1.
    2) 9.5 WAR this year

    The others are too hard to project, or I’m just too lazy.

    Comment by Adam S — July 26, 2012 @ 7:22 pm

  112. What are the chances, based on half a season of stats, that Mike Trout is literally the second coming of Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior?

    97%? 99%?

    Obviously not less than 95%!

    Comment by IDrago — July 26, 2012 @ 7:42 pm

  113. Mike Trout = The Franchise

    Comment by Donnie — July 26, 2012 @ 8:02 pm

  114. Thanks.

    Comment by tacoman — July 26, 2012 @ 8:12 pm

  115. I laughed out loud when i read your ridiculous comment and saw all the negative red next to it

    Comment by nilbog44 — July 26, 2012 @ 8:51 pm

  116. Albert Fish was an angels fan

    Comment by nilbog44 — July 26, 2012 @ 8:55 pm

  117. You mean like Tebow?

    Comment by rustydude — July 26, 2012 @ 9:56 pm

  118. How’d you do against him? What’d you throw him?

    Comment by rustydude — July 26, 2012 @ 9:57 pm

  119. Tebow was only like 83%. Face it: Trout has come to judge the quick and the dead.

    Comment by IDrago — July 26, 2012 @ 10:55 pm

  120. This isn’t just a rookie performing really well for a rookie, but really the veterans are performing just as well but less surprisingly… no, Trout really is performing better than anyone else in baseball, and has been pretty much since the moment he came up.

    I’m not saying Pujols won’t get any votes, he certainly will, and some of his other teammates could as well. But if you don’t consider Trout the front runner today, you’re just not paying attention.

    Comment by Jason — July 27, 2012 @ 1:29 am

  121. It’s hard to see him keep this up but it’s amazing watching him play everyday.

    If he has a weakness I’d say he occasionally chases the high fastball which he can’t handle. He chases other pitches out of the zone occasionally too, but he seems to have little problem handling them or at least fouling them off.

    He’s been amazing, yet he gets better at bat to at bat, and month to month. He is still learning the league, he hasn’t seen most of these pitchers before, he is only hitting .299 in his first at bat of a game.

    His power was underrated. He can flat out crush the ball. 440 to right center in Detroit?! On pace for near 30 homers already? He’s built like a tank, but his speed outshines his power.

    Comment by Erik — July 27, 2012 @ 1:59 am


    Comment by Beachy-rific — July 27, 2012 @ 2:04 am

  123. This is the best article about a 20-year-old I’ve ever read. To be fair, though, the last one about Bryce Harper was awfully impressive for an article about a 19-year-old.

    Comment by ezb230 — July 27, 2012 @ 2:28 am

  124. He’s not as good as Matt Moore.

    Or maybe I’m an idiot.

    Comment by 2012BaseballAmericaTop100 — July 27, 2012 @ 3:39 am

  125. I enjoyed this bit more the first time I heard it on the Cubs broadcast.

    Comment by Eric — July 27, 2012 @ 6:08 am

  126. Albert Pujols did it, basically.

    Comment by The Real Neal — July 27, 2012 @ 7:21 am

  127. since he was 12…I’d assume fastballs..changeups…maybe a terrible curveball?

    Comment by jordan — July 27, 2012 @ 7:28 am

  128. The fun part are the realistic comps- Mantle, Mays, Griffey Jr., Pinson and Cedeno are the obvious ones with Trout looking more like the latter two than the former three. There really hasn’t been a player with anything resembling his skill set who has completely flamed out.

    Comment by Mike Green — July 27, 2012 @ 9:42 am

  129. It’s also entirely likely that something bad happens and he never makes close to that amount in his entire career; an amount that would set him and his extended family for life.

    Comment by TKDC — July 27, 2012 @ 10:14 am

  130. Sorry, I meant possible, not likely. That is actually not likely at all, but possible.

    Comment by TKDC — July 27, 2012 @ 10:15 am

  131. It’s ironic that last night NBC interviewed Shawn Johnson, the woman Gymnast that was the star of the 2008 Olympics and referred to her as a veteren, ex-Olympian, former champion and she is…….20 years old!!
    Maybe Trout will have a great career, maybe not, but at least he gets to play into his 30’s at least.

    Comment by Hurtlockertwo — July 27, 2012 @ 10:38 am

  132. You forgot: Halibut Pujols, Shark Trumbo, Tuna Martinez, Barracuda Bonds, Giancarlo Mantaray, Ichiro Sushi & Willie Filets.

    Comment by Brent Davey — July 27, 2012 @ 10:52 am

  133. It’s crazy to look at Mantle and Mays and realize how much better they were than any non-Bonds player I’ve ever seen. Even A-Rod wasn’t on that level.

    And Mantle barely had a right knee for his entire career.

    Comment by YanksFanInBeantown — July 27, 2012 @ 10:59 am

  134. moar liek reggie filets

    Comment by correction — July 27, 2012 @ 3:37 pm

  135. You generally hear things link “Not even necessarily the best player on his team” when discounting MVP candidates… I guess for me what’s remarkable is that he’s absolutely, unquestionably the best player on a team with Pujols, Trumbo, Weaver, (now Greinke). We can argue all day about his season’s place historically… but I would postulate that more people here sincerely believe he’s just plain better than every player I just mentioned, even ignoring his age and possible impact over the next 10-15 years.

    Comment by Luke W — July 27, 2012 @ 8:11 pm

  136. Three months does not a season make. Let’s see where he is in October before we start handing out any honors.

    Comment by jejozi — July 27, 2012 @ 8:26 pm

  137. Matter of fact I did see her. And all I can say is wow!

    Comment by Capwhan — July 28, 2012 @ 12:02 am

  138. If all of the Mariners’ position players were this good they would be on pace for 162 wins by WAR.

    Comment by ThirteenOfTwo — July 28, 2012 @ 1:27 am

  139. I love how everyone calls for a regression. He has a .402 BABIP and people think he’s actually lucky. His xBABIP is .434 which means the man is getting unlucky! A regression might be coming but only if bad luck hits him more.

    Comment by Justin — July 29, 2012 @ 6:01 pm

  140. Heh, Jordan’s not far off. Fastballs, changeups and a weak attempt at a curveball that 1 time in 5 would look somewhat like a forkball, the pitch that later gave me bone chips in my elbow (PSA: Don’t throw breaking stuff until you’re at least 16, kids).

    Anywho, he went 3-4 with an inside-the-park HR, 3B, 1B and K.

    And it wasn’t a 2-error 2B kind of inside the park’er, it was legit. He _was_ that fast.

    Comment by Dalton — July 29, 2012 @ 7:57 pm

  141. I watched Trout in his teens. From the stands it was OBVIOUS this guy had something magic. There wasn’t a ball anywhere in the outfield that he didn’t go after. He could play the entire outfield by himself. I think he invented planking lol….I think I have a couple pictures somewhere with him flying flat out about 3 feet parallel to the ground. Not only is he loaded with talent he’s a great guy. Jersey couldn’t be prouder of “our guy!!”

    Comment by Basball Mom — July 29, 2012 @ 8:39 pm

  142. He could be league average for the rest of the season and still probably end up as the best player in the AL.

    Comment by Saint — August 1, 2012 @ 1:17 am

  143. Mike Trout is the best player I have ever seen, not just the best 20 year old. He is by far the best player in the MLB. And it isn’t even close.

    Comment by dcfrmhb — August 3, 2012 @ 1:20 am

  144. Dear Mr. Trout,

    Please have a twenty-year HOF career with at least five WS titles, all of it with the Angels.

    Every Angel Fan in the Universe

    Comment by David Scott — August 3, 2012 @ 3:50 am

  145. Bryce Harper is batting .258, has a measly 9 home runs, and an ops of .750… If Trout would have played as much as Harper did when he was 19. He would have ended with numbers far better then this.. These numbers are a pathetic joke for someone who was on the cover of sports illustrated at at 16. And at this point we can consider Bryce Harper a bust. Ron Washington said Mike Trout is no Willie Mays. This is because he is racist. If you compare their respective rookie seasons you would agree with Ron Washington, but for different reasons. Willie May’s rookie season is a joke compared to what Mike Trout is doing. And for those of you who say hey it’s only half the season…Look again, it’s 2/3 over. And he is only getting better. If Mike Trout doesn’t win MVP, it will only make the honor a joke going forward, as nobody in the american league is playing at a level even close to Mike Trout. In fact no other player in history has had numbers even close. People aren’t even paying attention to the fact that he is on pace to break Ty Cobb’s rookie record of 132 runs scored. He will break this record. These are the types of players Trout should be compared to, Ty Cobb, Mickey Mantle, Babe Ruth, etc, etc.. He should only be compared to the upper upper eschelon of players, and this does not include Willie Mays.. So thank you Ron Washington for looking like a racist idiot.

    Comment by dcfrmhb — August 4, 2012 @ 1:16 pm

  146. I believe Wash was speaking careerwise about Willie. Willie
    won games with his bat, defense, and speed. One baseball
    person, forgot his name, described Willie’s glove, as “the
    place Triples go to die.” That is the greatest compliment
    I have ever heard about a player. Willie was only 5’10” and
    weighed 170 pounds, was the greatest centerfielder. Still,
    he hit 660 hemers, 1,903 RBI’s, and batted .302 lifetime.
    He hit over 50 homers twice, and hit over 40 homers 6
    times during his career, and was batting champ once,
    .345 in 1954. Trout is good, but everyone needs to
    back off, letting him alone to do his thing. The
    great Bobby Murcer, another Yankee centerfielder,
    was spoiled by the pressure of fans expectation.

    Comment by Juan Chapa — August 4, 2012 @ 8:38 pm

  147. Those numbers are really good and deserving of the hall of fame.. But a couple of things stick out .302 lifetime is just so so..660 homeruns is a lot, but he played for about 25 years. Batting champion once.. Trout will tie him for that stat after this year. And as far as a place where triples go to die..that is all well and good, but Trouts glove is where homeruns go to die, and he proved that again tonight, which gives him now 2 web gems that are both superior to willie may’s famous basket catch. What people don’t realize, is that the coach was trying to wave willie to move back further into the outfield, and he missed the sign.. Even if Trout was out of position like willie was on his basket catch, he would have run and gotten underneath it, and then waited about 2 seconds for the ball to come down to him, as a routine catch.

    Comment by dcfrmhb — August 5, 2012 @ 12:16 am

  148. The age 20 leaderboard in OPS+ according to BB Ref:

    Mike Trout-183
    Ty Cobb-167
    Mel Ott- 165
    Mickey Mantle- 162
    Al Kaline- 162
    Alex Rodriguez-161
    Ted Williams-160
    Rogers Hornsby-150
    Jimmie Foxx-148
    Dick Burns-145

    At age 20, the Babe had an OPS+ of 188, but didn’t meet BBRef’s PA qualifying standard because he was pitching. I guess that it helps to be looking up to somebody.

    Comment by Mike Green — August 8, 2012 @ 10:38 am

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