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  1. I assume you never saw Machado, then?

    Comment by YanksFanInBeantown — August 7, 2012 @ 4:46 pm

  2. Or Lindor?

    Comment by Am I even serious? — August 7, 2012 @ 5:09 pm

  3. Despite trying to suppress the memory, I’m sure most Brewers fans do remember a certain recent shortstop who absolutely swung at everything and occasionally launched one.

    Actually, isn’t Juan Samuel an absolutely perfect comp? He often swung at pitches over his head, hit quite a few homers, was a butcher at SS at times, and stole a lot of bases. Similar muscular build too, although Samuel had longish legs and a short torso where Samuel is the opposite. Samuel struck out a lot, but I’d be shocked if Segura is able to make as much contact as he does in the minors and also hit for any power.

    Interesting choice for Brewers fans, who’d you rather have, Yuni or Samuel?

    Comment by Paul — August 7, 2012 @ 5:47 pm

  4. Since Mike scouts the SAL, probably safe to assume he hasn’t scouted Lindor.

    Comment by J Walter Weatherman — August 7, 2012 @ 5:56 pm

  5. I don’t know that I buy your comparison, but one of those two was a 3+ WAR player, the other replacement level. Which do you think we’d rather see out there?

    Comment by Bob — August 7, 2012 @ 6:50 pm

  6. Upon further review, Samuel didn’t even play SS. The ol’ memory card isn’t working like it used to – I thought he had played SS early on. But then Mike pretty much confirms that Segura also has almost no chance of playing SS either. And yes, I despite his hacktastery, Samuel was almost a 30/30 player once, so I would personally take him over Yuni. But I guarantee you there are fanbases that would not tolerate a 22% SO rate from their shortstop almost regardless of the power and speed.

    Comment by Paul — August 7, 2012 @ 7:18 pm

  7. Paul, what are you talking about? Where does Mike indicate there’s “almost no chance” Segura plays short? Is it that last paragraph where he repeatedly refers to him as a shortstop? And what does “what some fanbases will tolerate” have to do with the price of beans? Samuel had multiple 2-3 WAR years, Betancourt is under 3 WAR for his career. I don’t know what point you think you’re making by comparing them.

    Comment by byron — August 8, 2012 @ 12:06 am

  8. I have not seen Machado or Lindor in person. If I was a true believer that Bogaerts was a SS in the end, Segura would rank 3rd.

    Comment by Mike Newman — August 8, 2012 @ 5:40 am

  9. Did you read the part about not having fluid movements and being referred to a “bull in a china shop?”

    Also, did you watch the video? Who’s the last 3+ WAR player you saw swinging at pitches in his eyes and in the dirt that consistently?

    Maybe he’s Vlad Guerrero and will magically develop twinkle toes on defense.

    Comment by Paul — August 8, 2012 @ 8:54 am

  10. His minor league numbers split the difference between Alfonso Soriano and Jeff Kent, so there is a good upside for him if he can refine his skills.

    Comment by tz — August 8, 2012 @ 9:43 am

  11. Segura is not fluid yet, but it may come. He has the athleticism to get by. In the piece, I mention he could probably be okay at SS for a few years, but may slide over with age.

    Comment by Mike Newman — August 8, 2012 @ 11:40 am

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