A Quick Note On Michael Pineda’s Splits

Since the swap of Michael Pineda for Jesus Montero became public last night, a few talking points have become pretty commonplace. Some of them – Pineda’s reliance on his fastball and slider due to a subpar change-up, for instance – are definitely true, and are stories supported by the evidence. However, there have also been a few points that have been raised that don’t stand up to closer scrutiny, and those mostly stem from cursory looks at Pineda’s splits.

Split data, by its nature, generally consists of small sample sizes. In breaking a season down into smaller slices, you’re necessarily introducing greater uncertainty into the numbers. It’s important to not draw too many strong conclusions from what appear to be trends in split data, and at the same time, to make sure you’re looking at the entire picture.

With Pineda, two of his 2011 splits are most commonly cited as reasons for the Yankees to have some concern about his future performance – his home/road splits (specifically, the 2.92/4.40 ERA numbers) and his first half/second half splits (3.03/5.12 ERA). From these numbers, questions have been raised about how well Pineda will do outside of spacious Safeco Field and whether he’ll be able to hold up over a full-season and still be able to pitch well for the Yankees in the playoffs.

In both cases, however, looking a little deeper than simple ERA shows that these concerns are probably overblown.

Let’s start with his home and road numbers. For context, here are the relevant numbers for both:

Split BB% K% GB% HR/FB BABIP LOB% FIP xFIP
Home 9.1% 26.6% 35.4% 10.5% 0.220 77.5% 3.62 3.51
Away 7.0% 23.5% 37.0% 7.8% 0.286 64.4% 3.26 3.55

His walk and strikeout rates are both slightly higher at home, though the numbers are close enough to essentially be equal. His GB% is slightly higher on the road, but again, there’s not a big enough gap to really read into that at all. In those three core categories, there’s really nothing to show that Pineda actually pitched much better at home.

In fact, if there was one area where you’d expect Safeco’s park factor to show up, it would be in HR/FB rate. Safeco’s a pretty big ballpark and heavily suppresses home runs for right-handed batters, but Pineda’s HR/FB rate was actually lower on the road than it was in Seattle. While this might be a bit surprising, the reality is that Safeco actually isn’t all that beneficial to right-handed pitchers, as the right field porch is fairly short and the ball carries pretty well that direction. Left-handed pull hitters – the ones most likely to take Pineda deep – do just fine in Safeco. This is one of those times that a general park factor just isn’t all that helpful, because the park’s asymmetrical dimensions create very different effects for lefties and righties.

So, why was his ERA at home so much lower? Well, the chart should make it pretty obvious. Not only was his BABIP 66 points lower at home than on the road, but his road strand rate was just absurdly low. A pitcher who posts a 3.26 FIP and a .286 BABIP, as Pineda did away from home a year ago, should strand something close to 75% of his baserunners. Pineda stranded just 64%, the kind of total that is so low that you’d expect improvement from even the worst pitcher in baseball.

Essentially, his road ERA was just artificially inflated because of a strand rate that has no real predictive value. And there’s no reason to believe that Michael Pineda is going to strand runners on the road again next season. That’s one of those numbers, like a player’s batting average in Thursday day games, that is basically just trivia rather than anything useful. This is a case where home/road ERA isn’t giving us any insight into how a pitcher’s home park helped him perform better. It’s a number that’s best ignored, honestly – it doesn’t really tell us anything about what we should expect in 2012 and beyond.

Now, for the second half fade narrative. Here’s the same table as above, just with his performances by month:

Split BB% K% GB% HR/FB BABIP LOB% FIP xFIP
Mar/Apr 9.5% 23.8% 30.9% 0.0% 0.262 76.5% 2.26 3.90
May 5.6% 28.6% 36.6% 10.8% 0.231 82.0% 3.15 2.98
Jun 8.3% 21.2% 26.5% 7.5% 0.243 76.1% 3.90 4.28
Jul 9.3% 28.8% 40.6% 14.3% 0.294 46.1% 3.74 3.14
Aug 7.4% 24.2% 46.8% 19.0% 0.262 65.4% 4.20 3.09
Sept/Oct 6.7% 22.7% 45.3% 9.5% 0.275 71.4% 3.41 3.44

Again, we’re looking at a scenario where ERA isn’t really giving us an accurate picture of what happened. As you can see by looking at the numbers, the spike in runs allowed was basically due to a regression in his BABIP and HR/FB rates from the first half of the season. His K/BB ratio is nearly identical from the first half to the second half, and Pineda actually started generating far more ground balls as the season wore on. Those numbers do have predictive value, and don’t support the idea that Pineda was “wearing down” in the second half of the season.

Still, it’s easy for people to see increases in hit rate and home run rate as evidence that Pineda was simply not pitching as well. After all, both a spike in BABIP and HR/FB rate could be explained by batters just hitting the ball harder. And they very well might have been – we don’t really have the tools necessary to eliminate that as a possibility.

But, we also have to be realistic in our baselines. Pineda’s first half BABIP was .247, and his HR/FB rate was 7.1%. Those numbers aren’t really sustainable for anyone, and so, no matter who the pitcher was or how many years he had in the big leagues, we would always expect him to perform worse in the second half after posting those numbers. And we’d expect anyone watching him regress to report that he “looked worse” than he did previously. It’s almost impossible to watch a guy’s performance regress to the mean and not think that he’s pitching worse, as our opinions are certainly influenced by the results that a pitcher gets – even if we understand that those results might not actually be telling us anything about how well he’ll do going forward.

Of course Pineda looked worse in the second half than he did in the first half – he was performing at a level through June that only guys like Roy Halladay can keep up, and he’s not that kind of dominating ace. The fact that he established a ridiculous standard in the first three months of the season doesn’t mean that is the standard we should actually hold him to.

But, because the story of a young pitcher tiring under a workload he’s never carried before is such an easy one to tell, and because ERA seemingly confirms that narrative, this is the story that is being told about Pineda. And, for whatever reason, people have decided to add in a drop-off in velocity to make it sound more convincing. Well, here’s Pineda’s velocity chart from last year:

His velocity was down in his final start when the team gave him four innings after a 10 day rest. But in his second to last start, his fastball average matched his total for the season, and he ran it up into the 97-98 range as usual. His velocity did jump around from start to start, but there’s simply no clear downward trendline anywhere in that graph.

The pitcher-will-struggle-leaving-Safeco story and the young-pitcher-wears-down-in-second-half story are easy ones to tell, and have been true of other pitchers in prior years, but we should demand more than a basic look at split-data ERA before we jump to those conclusions. In looking at Pineda’s case specifically, there’s not much evidence that either story is true here.

The Yankees got a really good arm who had a really good year. There are legitimate causes for concern about his future performance (as there are with any young pitcher, really), but they won’t be found in looking at his 2011 home/road or first half/second half splits.



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Scott Candage
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Scott Candage
4 years 8 months ago

I watched quite a few of Pineda’s starts last year. I’m sure there’s data to back this up, but there were starts that he didn’t come out firing at 97 until a few innings had passed. I’d be willing to bet that those games are represented by the lower velocities on the last graph. I also think his ERA and such suffered because he was left in some games too long. He had starts where he was in trouble in the 6th or 7th inning. On a team with a better bullpen he would have been pulled. Because Seattle didn’t have the best pen, he was left in and gave up runs that he might not with the Yankees.

Matt Hunter
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4 years 8 months ago

To be fair, that velocity chart does make it look like Pineda’s velocity declined in the second half to some extent. Looks like he hit just about 95 or above 7 times in the first half, and only once or twice in the second. However, it certainly wasn’t a drastic drop-off, and I would probably expect a similar drop-off from any starting pitcher towards the end of a full season.

Big Baby
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Big Baby
4 years 8 months ago

My understanding is that the Yankee outfield D is pretty solid, better than their infield D. So shouldn’t that help Pineda is beating his FIP and avoiding a leaving-safeco slump.

Preston
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Preston
4 years 8 months ago

Gardner is the best defensive LF in the game the last few seasons. Depending on the metrics Granderson is either slightly below or above average in CF, (personally I think he’s above, but that just might be because I’m comparing him to other Yankee center fielders like Melky, Damon and Bernie). Swisher isn’t your typical RF, he’s not terribly athletic, and his throwing arm isn’t great. But he really has great instincts, glovework and great throwing mechanics that allow him to be about league average in the field.

G
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G
4 years 7 months ago

About every metrv I’ve seen actually had Swish as a pretty well above average outfield.

Ty
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Ty
4 years 8 months ago

Wouldn’t his home/road splits indicate that his success at home was probably due to luck more than anything, though? A .220 BABIP isn’t exactly sustainable.

James
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James
4 years 8 months ago

Yes, but he’s not just going AWAY from Safeco. He’s going TO Yankee Stadium, which has a ridiculously short right-field porch.

Frank
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Frank
4 years 8 months ago

So he’ll give up home runs. Is that the end of the world? Plenty of top flight pitchers have given up a high amount of home runs.

Barkey Walker
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Barkey Walker
4 years 8 months ago

In the top left of this page there is a tab called, “glossary.” mouse over that until something pops up. The second category is “Pitching Stats.” The first one is FIP. Click on that and look at what it says.

f
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f
4 years 8 months ago

“Plenty” is a stretch, but it’s not unheard of. Schilling gave up a good number of them, but he countered that with lots of Ks and very few BBs.

joser
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joser
4 years 8 months ago

It’s not quite as short at the pole, and it gets a lot less press, but Safeco has a short RF porch also.
Stadium RCF RF foul pole
Yankees 385 314
Safeco 385 326

ole custer
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ole custer
4 years 8 months ago

according to statcorner, HR park effects:
LHB @ yankee stadium: 143
LHB @ safeco: 95

llamanunts
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llamanunts
4 years 8 months ago

The marked distances are misleading. Yankee Stadium’s RCF marking is in more of a Center-Right-Center location than it was in the old Stadium, and more toward center than it’s marked pretty much anywhere else. This is because NewYS’ outfield wall from the line to RCF is pretty much a straight line rather than following a curve.

In short, don’t put 100% trust in wall markings.

Corey
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Corey
4 years 8 months ago

I think Pineda’s a phenomenal pitcher and the Mariners gave up a LOT in this trade. That said, I don’t agree at all with the treatment of home/road splits here. I can buy the 1st half/second half argument. But park effects can be felt in ways other than home runs/fly ball. In particular it looks like he had a much higher Babip on the road than at home, which ought to tell us that perhaps Safeco is depressing his Babip, unless other pitchers don’t see lower babips at Safeco. You just relied on strikeout rates and walk rates to argue Pineda was really the same pitcher at home as on the road, but I think its unlikely that parks tend to significantly alter a pitcher’s strikeout rate and walk rate. I guess I can think of some cases where they might, for example when Safeco was first built they had silver bleachers in center field that got in the batter’s eyes, so I won’t go so far as to say park effects that impact strikeout rates and walk rates don’t exist, but they seem like the least likely thing to be impacted by park, notice that Seattle changed that and installed the batters eye after realizing this was happening so that it’s not an effect anymore. The Babip and possibly LOB% I think probably actually do tell us something if you would seriously engage with them instead of dismissing them as irrelevant.

bstar
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bstar
4 years 8 months ago

Dismissing BABIP data as irrelevant…….welcome to Fangraphs, sir.

Tyler
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Tyler
4 years 8 months ago

You should look at tERA and SIERA, two stats that take batted-ball profiles into account, and his splits.

jim
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jim
4 years 8 months ago

“I think its unlikely that parks tend to significantly alter a pitcher’s strikeout rate and walk rate”

i’ll begin with andrew bailey and jake peavy, and let it run from tehre

Nathaniel Dawson
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Nathaniel Dawson
4 years 8 months ago

It depends on your definition of “significant”. Park factors that take into account different components indicate that parks do influence K and BB rates. Depending on whose park factors you’re looking at, something like 5 to 10% at the extremes either way.

Batter’s eye is one of the things that likely influence them, as well as some other things like angle of the sun, shadows on the field, crosswinds and wind gusts, glare from different areas of the stadium. Most likely it’s air density that generally plays the largest role. Parks that are in cooler, low altitude locations (such as the West Coast) usually see increased strikeouts. The contrast would be teams that are at higher elevation and warmer in the summer (Arizona, Colorado, Texas), where you see a reduction in K rate.

The Mariners have done a number of things over the years to improve the batter’s eye, and since I can’t recall any complaints from players about it the last few years, maybe they’ve solved the problem. Or maybe the batters got tired of complaining about it and have accepted it as an inherent characteristic of the ballpark. Either way, Safeco Field still consistently shows an increased K rate in park factors.

Chris
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Chris
4 years 8 months ago

Those Ground Ball rates tell an interesting tail. Did Pineda make an effort to get more ground balls, or are more ground balls a sign that batters were adjusting to his four seamer, and hitting the ball better? The amount of line drives he gave up doesn’t show this, but the distance some of the fly balls traveled makes me worry.

Buck Turgidson
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Buck Turgidson
4 years 8 months ago

Let me ask, Dave do you think the Mariners could have gotten close to the haul Gio brought from the Nats for Pineda? What if Billy was the M’s GM?

Preston
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Preston
4 years 8 months ago

The Mariners got the best prospect in return. The A’s got more for Gio, but Montero is decidedly better and more big league ready than any of them. I would make the assertion that Montero and Noesi are comprable total value to what the Nationals gave up, except for the fact that they gave up Jose Campos too.

Ryan
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Ryan
4 years 8 months ago

This kid has a few things to iron out no doubt, but he’s 22 years old…. most kids are in AA at his age and he has a solid full year in the Majors already. have mo teach him a cutter.

Baltar
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Baltar
4 years 8 months ago

I never realized that most 22-year-olds were alcoholics.

Big Baby
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Big Baby
4 years 8 months ago

He’s a major league baseball player, not just a 22 year old

Jeff in So. Indiana
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Jeff in So. Indiana
4 years 8 months ago

22= Senior in college

You did go to college, right?

Richie
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Richie
4 years 8 months ago

He’ll have a worse defense behind him, will he not? Especially factoring in the age of that defense. A few more balls will get by them than did last year.

dezre
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dezre
4 years 8 months ago

Yanks OF defense actually ranked very high last year. Gardy & Grandy cover a ton of ground. As does Cano and Teix. If he misses bats at the same rate, he should be fine.

Jon
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Jon
4 years 8 months ago

mainers fielding was -15.8 last year good for 16th place

yankees was 23.0 good for 7th

Preston
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Preston
4 years 8 months ago

Yeah the Yankees have a bad rap for defense. A-rod slimmed down last year and looked a lot more mobile at 3rd and Russel Martin was a huge defensive upgrade at C. So pretty much the only defensive spot where they aren’t close to league average or better is Jeter. And Jeter isn’t as as bad as he is perceived to be.

Roll Call
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Roll Call
4 years 8 months ago

Now this is a Dave Cameron who’s back on his game. Bravo.

(Montero is a stud. Enjoy him!)

tdotsports1
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4 years 8 months ago

I have never bothered to research further but could the SafeCo park factors (supressing RH HR) be impacted heavily by an absolutely awful Mariners lineup?

I seem to remember Rogers Centre (Skydome) being relatively neutral for many years prior to the Jays resurgent offense.

DMB park factors show Yankee Stadium increased LH HRs 36%, SafeCo supressed 14%. If he doesn’t keep the ball on the ground he will clearly see an increased HR/FB – as with any pitcher in that ballpark.

Jason
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4 years 8 months ago

“One of the common misperceptions about park factors is that they will be overly influenced by the home team. However, because the home team plays equal amounts of games per season in their home park and on the road, and the visiting team’s also play 81 games per year in that park, we get a decent sized sample with which to understand how parks affect run scoring. “

Chris
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Chris
4 years 8 months ago

The sample sizes are still massively skewed towards the home team. If the home team is significantly better or worse than league average, the park affects will be effected. Teams with great pitching and horrible offense or horrible pitching and phenomenal offense will obviously only further skew the data as they will either score nothing and allow very very little or score a ton and give up many runs in return.

I’m pretty sure that Safeco would be effected by the fact that Seattle tends to have fairly good pitching and very poor offense.

Cory
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Cory
4 years 8 months ago

Is there anyway to see if his IF and OF were better at home than on the road? Not sure if those splits exist.

everdiso
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everdiso
4 years 8 months ago

I can’t help but think that the only unsustainable outlier I see anywhere in this article is Pineda’s .220 home babip.

I Agree Guy
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I Agree Guy
4 years 8 months ago

I can’t help but think you’re wrong.

everdiso
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everdiso
4 years 8 months ago

You see another unsustainable number there? Please share.

Cory
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Cory
4 years 8 months ago

I gotta agree with him. His overall BABIP (.258) was better than Halladay, Sabathia, Kershaw, and Lee. I wouldn’t say Pineda is better than any of those pitchers.

Preston
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Preston
4 years 8 months ago

BABIP is not really a measurement of skill. The guys you list are all GB pitchers. Flyball pitchers have lower BABIP’s, but give up way more XB hits. Obviously the .220 is really low, and maybe the .258 is also to low, but he could probably sustain a low BABIP if he continues to be a flyball pitcher.

Herbalist
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Herbalist
4 years 8 months ago

My prediction is that Jack Zurinzineckjivodch will loose his job over this debacle of a trade.

alphadogsball
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alphadogsball
4 years 8 months ago

I think he has a pretty “tight” grip on it.

Richie
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Richie
4 years 8 months ago

Unless the Ms contend this year, he’s gone. So he’ll lose his job long before this trade turns into much of anything, be it ‘debacle’, ‘steal’ or whatever in between.

Phils_Goodman
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Phils_Goodman
4 years 8 months ago

LHB park factors according to StatCorner:

NYS: HR — 143; wOBA — 103
SCF: HR — 95; wOBA — 96

As a strict matter of surface-level performance, Pineda’s ERA/FIP should rise when going from a pitcher-friendly environment to a hitter-friendly environment.

But what happens to Pineda’s ERA+/FIP- (and consequently his rWAR/fWAR) is what determines his true value. And that is probably something much too complicated to figure out from such small split samples. I still think concern is merited whenever a player is going into a tougher environment.

Jack
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Jack
4 years 8 months ago

In a chat from the summer, when asked if he were the Yankees, would he trade Montero, Betances and Nova for Ubaldo, Dave Cameron responded “in a heartbeat”. One can only imagine how he truly feels about his team only receiving Montero for a pitcher with considerably more value than Ubaldo had at the time. Put differently, he probably truly thinks the Yanks just stole Pineda.

Jon
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Jon
4 years 8 months ago

Dont forget Dave Cameron has an irrational hatred for Montero

Colin
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Colin
4 years 8 months ago

Or we can call it completely acceptable skepticism for a player with mediocre numbers in AAA last season who does not have a major league position?

James
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James
4 years 8 months ago

“I would have expected the Yankees to have to surrender a bit more than they gave up.” on Fangraphs.com, yesterday

Cory
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Cory
4 years 8 months ago

I believe Ubaldo will bounce back, but what really sets him apart is that he is signed for about $18M over the next three years. That is a great price for an ace. Pineda’s price is low for now, but will rise if he continues to pitch well.

MikeB22
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MikeB22
4 years 8 months ago

What strikes me as most important regarding any sort of split involving Pineda is the batted ball profile from the 1st half and 2nd half. Could he be evolving based on his tenure in the majors? Is it a result of something else?

For the 1st half: 19.6% LD, 31.0% GB, 49.4% FB
For the 2nd half: 18.1% LD, 43.8% GB, 38.0% FB

A 10%+ change in GB/FB rate is dramatic….small sample size or not. And could that have also been related to the change in HR/FB? I’d like to think there is some causality (or chicken/egg…did HR/FB emergence cause change in approach). I also wonder how velocity is affected by how a pitcher works the zone (i.e. high heat vs low heat…is location and velocity related in any way?)

It also looks like he began to throw his change and slider more in the 2nd half as well (FB less).

MikeB22
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MikeB22
4 years 8 months ago

Using TexasLeaguers, I got the following info:
*1st half ending 6/30/11

1st half FB velocity: 94.7 mph
2nd half FB velocity: 94.3 mph

1st half FB/SL/CHG use: 51.2%/32.2%/2.9%
2nd half FB/SL/CHG use: 48.5%/34.6%/4.2%

1st half fly-out/ground-out: 16.4%/15.5%
2nd half fly-out/ground-out: 12.3%/18.2%
*not FB/FB

1st half FB/SL whiff%: 9.5%/18.6%
2nd half FB/SL whiff%: 9.1%/17.0%

j
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j
4 years 8 months ago

As far as groundball rates go, I find it important that he got a good amount of groundballs in the minors. I believe he had a 1.3 gb/fb ratio career, which is solid. The only time when he’s been an extreme fb guy is the first three months of his career.

everdiso
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everdiso
4 years 8 months ago

Decent gb rates at the lower levels, but for whatever reason, they’ve been going down at the higher levels.

2008 (A): 1.33
2009 (A+): 1.65
2010 (AA): 0.99
2010 (AAA): 1.07
2011 (MLB): 0.72

Nathaniel Dawson
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Nathaniel Dawson
4 years 8 months ago

That’s pretty typical of players as they move through the minors. Overall rates drop at each level up.

Peter
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Peter
4 years 8 months ago

Jesus is a beast and a boss. Please use him wisely and use him well.

Chair
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Chair
4 years 8 months ago

Not nearly quick enough to justify the word’s place in the title

Brian Cartwright
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Brian Cartwright
4 years 8 months ago

Looking at the splits by month, there is a large increase in GB%, from a very low rate to one slightly above average. At the same time his BABIP and HR% both go up.

From the article I wrote for the 2012 THT Annual, this would indicate that as the GB% went up, the distribution of vertical angle of all his balls in play, including those in the air, became lower. High angle flies include pop ups and long hang times in the outfield. Lower angle flies, which come with a higher GB%, are more likely to become base hits and homeruns.

Even so, his FIP and xFIP remained above average, but neither considers BABIP and xFIP assigns a fixed HR/FB.

ChrisFromBothell
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ChrisFromBothell
4 years 8 months ago

What about a sophomore slump? I thought most new players, and especially most new starting pitchers, struggled in their second full year in the majors.

TexPantego
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TexPantego
4 years 8 months ago

Knowing nothing at all except the #s and my eye, the thing that sticks in my mind is “Why are the Mariners dealing him?” Yes they’ve got good arms on the farm, but they could’ve traded one of those. I get it that Montero is a good prospects, but if the Mariners were confident Pineda was going to get better, why not wait a year, when his value would be higher?

Josh
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Josh
4 years 8 months ago

Dave, you guys care to explain why the Yankees/Pineda trade need 6 separate posts? Favoritism much?

pat
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pat
4 years 8 months ago

Probably has nothing to do with the fact that there is NOTHING going on in baseball right now, and that they’re two of the youngest and best players in baseball?

Josh
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Josh
4 years 8 months ago

Shove it Pat! Are you a boy or a girl? I can’t tell since you have a transvestite name. Either way they don’t need 6 posts. You didn’t see this many for Alonso/Latos.

pat
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pat
4 years 8 months ago

I think the word you’re looking for is androgynous, you simpleton.

baty
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baty
4 years 8 months ago

Out of curiosity… When’s the last time a pitching prospect of Pineda’s caliber was traded after a first full season at such a young age?

Phrozen
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Phrozen
4 years 8 months ago

That chart does indicate a measurable decrease in fastball velocity. It’s small, but it’s clearly there. His average appears to drop from right at 95 down to 93-94.

Now, that’s probably irrelevantly small, but it is a “clear downward trend.”

Socrates
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Socrates
4 years 8 months ago

Dude. This isn’t quick. I dont have time for this on a Sunday night. I will tag to read tomorrow during work.

MrG
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MrG
4 years 8 months ago

lol I was just laughing about that. The “quick note” headline reminds me of Felix Unger telling his poker buddies he dashed together a perfect club sandwich with the crust trimmed off “1-2-3!”

Kyle K.
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Kyle K.
4 years 8 months ago

How long until the Mariners turn around and acquire Votto for Montero+? In all seriousness I agree with most of the analysis here. I just wish a FG writer would break things down and make a similar defense of non-Mariners who play in parks that are excellent pitchers’/hitters’ parks. It gets tiresome to hear players like Justin Upton, Carlos Gonzalez, most SD pitchers, etc. constantly take beatings from commenters because LOL LOOK AT DEH HOME/ROAD TRIPLE SLASH HE IZ NOT GOOD AT BASEBALLZ. While the triple slashes are certainly disparate in cases like that, it would be nice to see a deeper analysis for guys like that sometimes.

MrG
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MrG
4 years 8 months ago

Only five pitchers who threw as many innings as Pineda had a higher fly ball rate than his. Given that New Yankee Stadium has ranked near the top in HR per game ever since it opened, it seems reasonable to expect more of Michael’s fly balls to leave the yard in that launchpad.

Brian
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Brian
4 years 8 months ago

I think this was a sensible trade for the yanks.

That said, as a Mets fan Yankees hater, I hope it’s a huge bust, and that Pineda stinks while Montero averages 5 WAR a year.

bstar
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bstar
4 years 8 months ago

He won’t average 5 WAR if he DHs full-time.

puffy
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puffy
4 years 8 months ago

I’ve bashed you guys before, so I feel compelled to give credit when it’s due. It’s due with this article. Really really good.

James T in MA
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James T in MA
4 years 8 months ago

Pineda has a funky delivery and threw only 47 innings in 2009 due to an “elbow ailment” . This might have something to do with Jack Z trading a young pitcher who looks very good now and might get better.

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