Alfonso Soriano: A Chance for Something

It was on Feb. 16, 2004, that the Yankees thought they had their questions answered. That day, they added a 28-year-old Alex Rodriguez from the Rangers — along with cash — and what it cost them was Alfonso Soriano and, eventually, Joaquin Arias. It was a deal thought to be lopsided at the time, and Rodriguez, for awhile, performed like a superstar. Rodriguez today resembles Rodriguez then, but only really in terms of genetics; there’s some chance he might never play another game. Which is one reason why the Yankees are rumored to be pursuing Soriano, who now is in Chicago. Rodriguez’s arrival was directly connected to Soriano’s departure. Rodriguez’s potential departure might be directly connected to Soriano’s potential arrival.

Here’s another reason why the Yankees are looking at the ex-Yankee. Soriano bats right-handed, and for a while, he’s produced. Right-handed batters for the Yankees, this season, have racked up more strikeouts than hits. Granted, it turns out that’s hardly unprecedented, so it’s not as impactful as it sounds. But Yankee righties have a .589 OPS. Next-worse is the Marlins, at .622. Yankee righties play in Yankee Stadium. The Yankees are thirsty for a right-handed bat that doesn’t suck, and it just so happens that Soriano’s an outfielder, like Vernon Wells.

First point: Right now, there isn’t a trade. There were reports that a trade was close, but reports since have backed off and say  the Yankees and the Cubs are just talking. With that said, they’re also said to be “motivated,” and the Yankees are a fit with a need. The team also is familiar to a player with a no-trade clause. Odds are, Soriano will be moved; odds are, if he’s moved, it’ll be to the Yankees.

Second point: At the moment, the Yankees don’t have a healthy Curtis Granderson, but he’s supposedly due back in just a short while. A healthy Granderson is someone you play every day. So is a healthy Brett Gardner. Ichiro remains useful as a regular. Ideally, the outfield hole that exists wouldn’t exist much longer, no matter what. So a new outfielder might not play much outfield down the stretch.

It was weird when the Yankees traded for Wells. It read like panic. Wells hadn’t been good and the deal cost the Yankees money that should’ve gone to Russell Martin. The plan was for Wells to be a stopgap until Granderson got himself healthy. Wells is coming up on 350 plate appearances, and he’s been a disaster since his hot start. If the Yankees acquired Soriano, in a sense it would be to replace their replacement. It would come months late, but Soriano would vault in front of Wells on the team depth chart and would relegate Wells to the bench. That — at most — is where he belongs.

Soriano’s under contract for $18 million in 2013 and another $18 million in 2014. The Cubs have been trying to move him seemingly forever, and any trade would involve the team eating a lot of cash. The Yankees being the Yankees, the likelihood is the Cubs would have to make a big contribution to the 2014 salary, while the Yankees would pick up most or all that remains in 2013. That way, the Yankees might be able to stay under a $189 million payroll next season, which has long been a goal. Soriano could start for the Yankees in 2014, depending on what they do. And to get Soriano and the cash, the Yankees would have to surrender a non-elite prospect of some kind of note.

Offensively, things have been catastrophic for New York, and Soriano can’t change all that on his own. But Granderson shouldn’t be far off. Derek Jeter shouldn’t be far off — again. And look at this list of potentially available bats. Hanley Ramirez isn’t actually available, Chase Utley doesn’t make sense for a team with Robinson Cano, Marlon Byrd is Marlon Byrd and the White Sox supposedly don’t want to pick up Alex Rios‘ 2014 salary. Given the Yankees’ needs and flexibility, Soriano is among the best of limited options. And the team is still within striking distance of the wild card, and with reinforcements on the way, it wouldn’t play well for the Yankees to sit still and do nothing. Soriano’s addition wouldn’t be a sexy transaction, but he’s a guy the Yankees could add at a reasonably low price.

This is the part where we get to Alfonso Soriano performance evaluation. The man is 37 years old, and he’s not going to slug .560 like he did in his peak. He’s not going to steal 30 or 40 bases like he did in his peak. There’s a reason the Cubs are willing to eat so much money to make Soriano go away. But, at least, if he’s on the decline, so far it’s been gradual. Soriano has posted an isolated slugging of at least .200 in all but one season since 2002. He’s posted a wRC+ of at least 100 every year but one since 2005. His walk rate hasn’t really budged, but his strikeout rate hasn’t really budged, either. In other words, his approach is still classically his.

During the PITCHf/x era, Soriano has posted one of baseball’s highest swing rates, and one of the highest rates of swings at balls. This is why he doesn’t walk; this is why he strikes out. But Soriano’s made a career out of this approach. Since 2008 — of the players with at least 1,000 plate appearances — 14 guys have put up O-Swing rates, Z-Swing rates and contact rates within five percentage points of Soriano’s. As a group, including Soriano, they’ve averaged a 95 wRC+. But we find Soriano at 106, and he looks remarkably similar to Adam Jones. They’re not dissimilar offensive players, with the younger Jones making a little more contact and running a little better.

So we know Soriano can hit at least a little, making up for his lackluster discipline with dingers. We know he’s not a base-running liability. The question that remains is what to make of his defense, and that’s where this can get really confusing. Cubs fans haven’t liked him. DRS has painted the picture of Soriano as being somewhere in the vicinity of average, or slightly below. UZR has loved Soriano. Loved him to bits. Soriano’s been a regular outfielder since 2006, spanning more than 8,500 innings. According to DRS, he’s been six runs below average. According to UZR, he’s been 78 runs above average. That makes a whale of a difference when it comes to determining Soriano’s value. While you could argue UZR wouldn’t be wrong over so many innings, you could say the same of DRS. This right here is one of the reasons why people get so frustrated with attempts at measuring defensive performance.

I think we can simplify this: First, Soriano is 37, so we can make a certain assumption about his range. It ued to be he had a great arm, and today it’s probably good but worse. If one system thinks he’s adequate and the other system thinks he’s great, he’s probably been somewhere between. I know that’s a big range, but still. Also, there’s this bizarre twist. From a September 2012 article:

His improvements defensively have also contributed in making this one of Soriano’s better all-around seasons with the Cubs. Soriano admitted that this year was the first time he’s ever gotten instruction on how to play the outfield. First base coach Dave McKay routinely coaches all the outfielders on how to play defense.

That revelation is all the more surprising considering that Soriano moved from second base to left field in spring training of 2006, his only season with the Washington Nationals. Soriano said that the only ‘coaching’ he got at that time and prior to this season was shagging fly balls during batting practice.

A different article from the same month:

Soriano’s not going to win a Gold Glove this year (or likely any other year at this point in his career), but opponents and scouts have done double takes all season at the transformation Soriano has undergone at age 36 under the tutelage of first-year outfield coach Dave McKay.

“He’s a different player out there than I saw the last two or three years,’’ said one evaluator, who views Soriano as a credible defender for the first time in his career.

It’s unlikely Soriano received no instruction, but it’s believable he didn’t receive enough, so it’s believable he might’ve improved at an unusually advanced age. I think this image might capture Alfonso Soriano’s defense in a nutshell:

SorianoCatch.gif.opt

Soriano might not look great in the field, but most of the time he gets the job done. He’s probably not a liability, even if he used to be. Reputations are hard to change when they’re established, but it wasn’t until a year and a half ago that someone tried to walk Soriano through what he was supposed to be doing.

Put  together, in Soriano, you get a pretty good hitter who’s a decent defender. Obviously, he’s not someone worth $18 million a season, but that isn’t the price the Yankees would be paying. To whatever extent it matters for the Yankees to add power, Soriano would supply some, and he’d be helping plug up what’s been a black hole occupied by Vernon Wells and others. In the immediate, Soriano could be an improvement in left. Upon the return of Granderson, Soriano’s right-handedness would be useful given the left-handed Granderson, Gardner, Ichiro and Travis Hafner. And as far as 2014 is concerned, Soriano could be a starter on Chicago’s dime. The Yankees already have Wells for next year on the Angels’ dime, but Wells is bad, and Soriano isn’t. Soriano’s a low-walk outfielder who actually hits for power.

Alfonso Soriano can’t save these Yankees. That needs to be a team effort, and Soriano is far from being an elite-level talent. But given the Yankees’ situation, given their needs and given their constraints, Soriano might be just about the best they can do. That wasn’t the case at the time when they traded for Vernon Wells, and better to learn pretty late than never to learn at all.




Print This Post



Jeff made Lookout Landing a thing, but he does not still write there about the Mariners. He does write here, sometimes about the Mariners, but usually not.


68 Responses to “Alfonso Soriano: A Chance for Something”

You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed.
  1. DNA+ says:

    As a Yankees fan, I don’t like acquiring Soriano at all. …however, our team is so bad right now, that he would probably be hitting fourth, and would undoubtedly make the team better in the short run.

    Vote -1 Vote +1

    • chri521 says:

      Why not though? Jeff’s reasons seem to be all extremely valid and on point. One can argue this is the last window for this current Yankee core to have a chance at the playoffs. Mo is retiring, Jeter is no sure thing to be healthy again, Arod obviously, Pettite, Grandy FA etc.

      As long as the Cubs accept half the cash, and a middling prospect I think it’s a winner for all involved. Cubs get younger and rebuild, get some financial flexibility and at worse some team depth. The Yankees get one more aging hitter who is actually productive to make their last push at the playoffs before the team needs to be rebuilt. This middling prospect in play should not be a foundation piece for the Yanks so there’s no real sacrifice long term.

      Vote -1 Vote +1

      • DNA+ says:

        I just don’t like tying up yet another roster space in a marginal player. The Yankees have a longterm need for a young right-handed bat. …I would be trying to pry Giancarlo Stanton away from the Marlins. Maybe that isn’t possible, and maybe the Yankees don’t have the assets to do it anyway, but that is the type of thing we really need. The Pineda deal hasn’t worked out, but it was forward thinking and bold. A Soriano deal lacks any sense of creativity.

        I agree with Sullivan that the deal would improve the Yankees now. But, the Yankees are a really bad team right now. Soriano isn’t getting them a World Series, so I am not that interested in the marginal improvement.

        Vote -1 Vote +1

        • matt w says:

          Seems like it’d be a fool’s errand for the Yankees to go after Stanton. They have one blue-chip prospect, Gary Sanchez, and a whole bunch of question marks. That’s just not enough to land Stanton.

          Vote -1 Vote +1

        • Jason B says:

          Aww c’mon! Every fantasy league has an owner who tries non-stop to package six mediocre players to land an elite talent.

          “Whaddaya mean, you don’t want my Macier Izturis, Joe Blanton, Melky Cabrera, Jason Marquis, and Freddy Garcia for your Clayton Kershaw?!” *cue mock outrage*

          +8 Vote -1 Vote +1

        • DNA+ says:

          I have no idea what it would take to get Stanton, especially considering it appears the Marlins have no interest in actually building a team and winning. However, the Yankees do have good young pitching in addition to Gary Sanchez. Even at the major league level, the Yankees have good young pitching.

          Vote -1 Vote +1

        • chri521 says:

          Still does not make sense… Yankees aren’t giving up anything of major worth that would preclude them from your fantasy scenario of snaring Stanton.
          Again Soriano would be a complementary piece that would help them try to go for it now, because honestly there is no real tomorrow with this current team.

          I’m confused why you are so against it, roster spaces are easy to clear with the Yankees glut of MiLB and waiver fodder talent.

          Right now you don’t need creativity, you need performance at a reasonable price. Soriano is pretty much that in a nutshell.

          Vote -1 Vote +1

        • za says:

          Who exactly do you propose to get Giancarlo Stanton? I see that the Yanks have Gary Sánchez…and one would think you would need at least three of him to get Stanton. Pardon my directness, but I think you’re unclear on the level of talent on the Yankees. I would posit that they don’t have the talent at the Major League level to get that type of return, either.

          Vote -1 Vote +1

        • za says:

          Who exactly are these “good, young pitchers” you’re talking about? I don’t see them.

          Vote -1 Vote +1

        • DNA+ says:

          “Who exactly do you propose to get Giancarlo Stanton?”

          …you might note that I have repeatedly said that I have no idea whether the Yankees have the assets to get a player like Stanton. So I don’t propose anyone.

          The Yankees have quite a few good young pitchers. In terms of trade value, the two best are probably Nova and David Phelps. Pineda is also valuable, though presumably will be more so when he gets back to the big leagues. Lots of good young arms in the Yankees bullpen as well.

          Vote -1 Vote +1

        • nilbog44 says:

          Sorry to pile on, but I almost spit out my drink when you mentioned Ivan Nova and David Phelps in the same sentence as Giancarlo Stanton

          Vote -1 Vote +1

        • DNA+ says:

          I, of course, didn’t mention those two players in the same sentence as Stanton. I’ve gone out of my way to repeatedly say that I don’t have any idea what type of haul could fetch Stanton.

          …that said, both of those pitchers are valuable players. Nova, in particular has the stuff to be a #2 or #3 on a good staff. He’s got a mid 90’s power sinker, good curve, and strikes out a batter per inning. If he can develop his command and be more consistent, he can be an elite pitcher.

          …now I will actually mention Stanton and Nova in the same sentence for comparison’s sake. According to Fangraphs, Nova has actually been more valuable than Stanton so far this year. Of course nobody thinks Nova is as valuable as Stanton, but this might alert you to how well Nova has actually pitched this year. He has pitched especially well since he has been recalled from the minors.

          Vote -1 Vote +1

    • TKDC says:

      You do realize that teams that make the playoffs have a shot at the world series, that Soriano gives you a better shot at making the playoffs, and that if Chicago picks up most or all of his 2014 salary, all you are really losing going forward is a middling prospect, right? I don’t see how your opinion on this is the least bit logical.

      Vote -1 Vote +1

      • DNA+ says:

        …yes, I realize that teams that make the playoffs have a chance to win the World Series.

        Let me ask you a question. What do you think is the incentive for Chicago to make such a deal? All they are getting is a middling prospect and no salary relief by your reckoning. Why should they bother then?

        Vote -1 Vote +1

        • TKDC says:

          They’re getting salary relief for 2013. I think the rest of the season is probably around $6 million. Also, I can’t imagine this being a bad deal if the Yanks pick up $3-$4 million for 2014, as that is the normal cost of a free agent bench outfielder.

          Vote -1 Vote +1

        • DNA+ says:

          What the Cubs want is the roster spot. They will probably be happy to take anything more than nothing to get the roster spot.

          From the Yankees’ perspective, there is a limit to how many roster spots you can commit to fourth outfielders. They’ve already got Wells and Ichiro signed through next year. Do they really want three of their 25 tied up in fourth outfielders?

          Vote -1 Vote +1

        • Cool Lester Smooth says:

          A) Vernon Wells costs them nothing to cut next year.

          B) Soriano is a starting caliber LF. That’s better than Wells or Ichiro.

          Vote -1 Vote +1

        • TKDC says:

          Wells is awful, he should be released.

          Vote -1 Vote +1

        • DNA+ says:

          Wells and Ichiro both should be released. Not going to happen though.

          Vote -1 Vote +1

        • Cool Lester Smooth says:

          You’re right. After all, they were so hesitant in cutting Randy Winn when it cost them nothing.

          Vote -1 Vote +1

        • Deelron says:

          What’s with the release Ichiro silliness. He’s been worth 1.3 WAR, which while not stellar certainly doesn’t rate in the top 3 of the Yankees problems and still is a legitimate MLB player, which it much harder to say for Hafner, Wells and Overbay. He’ll Jason Nix has 268 PA for them, that sums up the problem right there.

          Vote -1 Vote +1

        • Rob Huff says:

          It’s not just the roster spot that the Cubs want. It’s also the middling prospect. That might sound goofy. By my count, the team’s top 8 prospects and 14 of their top 15 were acquired in the past 25 months (Junior Lake being the exception). That’s a credit to Jim Hendry’s final draft in 2011 and the incredible influx of young talent brought in by the Epstein/Hoyer regime. It also gives you a sense for just how horrendous the system was. While they’ve loaded up on power prospects, an arm with the chance to pitch the 7th inning for a couple of years is still a coveted asset for the Cubs. Plus, every big trade always includes filler pieces. The Sam Fulds and Brandon Guyers of the world have to come from somewhere.

          Finally, you need to understand Alf’s projected value to the Cubs: almost nothing. He is a likable team guy who tries hard in a broken body, but he has no role on the 2015 squad, the target year for us Cubs fans (even though 2014 is shaping up to be a whole lot more interesting than many of us assumed).

          With all that, $6M of salary relief and a middling prospect sounds like a pretty nice return. He’s wasting a 30 homer season with the Cubs, and the Yanks are a no doubt match with their need for dingers (ranked 24th in MLB), Granderson’s injury, and their horrendous infield offense.

          Vote -1 Vote +1

        • DNA+ says:

          These are mostly pretty reasonable arguments. I think I was wrong about the Cubs primarily wanting the roster spot, and about the significance of the loss of the spot for the Yankees, fwiw. OK, bring on Soriano!

          Vote -1 Vote +1

  2. Chicago Mark says:

    I have to wonder if Alfonse (A Chicago name) will play worse defense in a more spacious Yankee stadium left field. And I also wonder if he will hit less home runs in a more spacious Yankee stadium left field. AND I wonder if he’ll lose platoon ab’s to Hafner or Overbay or???

    Vote -1 Vote +1

  3. Chicago Mark says:

    Sorry. Nice article as always Jeff. I like the read.

    Vote -1 Vote +1

  4. steve-0 says:

    It’s so “impactful” it’s a new paradigm in organic growth, it really is in his wheelhouse. But let’s not completely reinvent the wheel here, let’s leverage our learnings and get complete buy in on these core competencies. I want 110% on this one.

    Vote -1 Vote +1

  5. Cool Lester Smooth says:

    Who is this “Ichiro” that you’re saying is a useful regular?

    I know you can’t be talking about that lefty corner outfielder with a .302 wOBA in Yankee Stadium.

    Vote -1 Vote +1

    • DNA+ says:

      Ichiro might be a useful player on some team, but not on the Yankees. You can’t have an entire team of slap hitters. ….that said, the only at bats by Yankees regulars that are even watchable are Ichiro, Gardner and Cano. …two slap hitters and one legitimate superstar.

      Vote -1 Vote +1

      • Jon L. says:

        Totally disagree! I watch every other batter in the Yankee lineup with nothing less than morbid fascination.

        Vote -1 Vote +1

    • League-average player

      Vote -1 Vote +1

      • Cool Lester Smooth says:

        And Soriano’s an above average player. Ichiro’s going to be the one sitting when Grandy comes back, not Sori.

        Vote -1 Vote +1

      • DNA+ says:

        League-average is a very misleading way to describe a players usefulness to any one team. This site tries to remove context when evaluating players. That is fine for evaluating talent, but it is awful for evaluating the usefulness of a player to a team.

        The Yankees are not an average offense. Singles are worth less to the Yankees than they are to most teams in baseball because the Yankees score runners from first base less often than do most other teams.

        Vote -1 Vote +1

        • 29% of Yankees baserunners have scored. AL average is 30%. White Sox, Rangers, Mariners all a little lower than the Yankees. You are right about what you say, but the significance is minimal. Also, in theory, Jeter and Granderson aren’t far off from returns, changing the dynamic.

          Vote -1 Vote +1

        • DNA+ says:

          Significance is something you have to evaluate. The Yankees are a team that a) has scored about the same number of runs as they have allowed, and b) has lost a lot of one run games. It is possible that a handful of extra runs could be quite significant in the standings. Tough to say without actually evaluating it though.

          I hope you are right about Jeter and Grandy changing the dynamic. Cheers!

          Vote -1 Vote +1

        • Cool Lester Smooth says:

          I’d say Ichiro’s biggest issue is that he’s bad at getting on base and hitting for power.

          Other than that, he’s a fine player.

          Vote -1 Vote +1

  6. cass says:

    I had never seen those comments about outfield coaching before. Just another sad reminder of the Jim Bowden days.

    For another perspective, here’s an article from Spring Training 2006 where one of the coaches questions Soriano’s work ethic when learning the outfield. Of course, the only training talked about is catching balls of fungos.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/26/AR2006032601064.html

    Vote -1 Vote +1

  7. Brett W says:

    A lot of range for left field, but bad routes. A lot of arm strength, but no accuracy. He’s the guy at the hardware store with the expensive tools who doesn’t know how to use them.

    Vote -1 Vote +1

  8. buddaley says:

    I think the decision rests on the Yankees’ evaluation of their prospects for the next 2 years or so. Do they think they can re-tool for legitimate runs at the post-season in 2014-15 or are there so many holes to fill that their mid-range (at best) farm system and the free agent market will not be able to fix so soon?

    If they think it is possible to contend next year or the year after, then why not get Soriano at least to try to contend now. But if they see the next few years as rebuilding for serious runs in 2016 and after, then I don’t think it makes sense. Even a middling prospect can be useful in that rebuilding. He may be a useful reliever, a useful bench player, a platoon player or whatever, but he will be cheap and have a purpose on the roster. Soriano won’t. Wouldn’t the Yankees prefer a backup third baseman who can actually fill in for a while than the medley of failures they have tried so far? Or mightn’t a middling prospect be useful as part of a larger deal at some point?

    Vote -1 Vote +1

    • Cool Lester Smooth says:

      The Yankees don’t do rebuilding. The playoffs are always the goal.

      Vote -1 Vote +1

      • Spencer D says:

        I could see them or the dodgers becoming the first team to trade for a superstar exclusively in cash. For example, 100 M for Stanton, similar to what happens in the major European soccer leagues, or to the Ranger’s move to get Darvish from NPB.

        Vote -1 Vote +1

        • MrKnowNothing says:

          Loira is salivating at the idea of getting just money for his guys. Allows him to cut out the middle man.

          Vote -1 Vote +1

      • buddaley says:

        Yes, I know. And that approach may stop them from giving up on this season. But it may also be time for a reality check. The Yankees may indeed have the resources to continue to contend, but the odds keep getting longer and they are in danger of a long term stay in the basement.

        The following positions are either currently weak or about to become so with no obvious replacements in sight. 1B, 3B, SS, 2 OF spots, 3-4 rotation pitchers. For the others they are relying on Sanchez, possibly a real star but not anything near a sure thing. And maybe they re-sign Cano. And perhaps I am wrong about the outfield with Williams et al in the pipe line. But that is a thin thread to rely on as are the replacements for Sabathia (maybe; he may continue to be effective), Kuroda and Pettitte.

        That is an awful lot of talent to find, and the likely replacements are all question marks. The only real current star in the majors, one who can reasonably be expected to stay a star at least for the next few years, is Cano, and it is still uncertain that he will stay. Every other position is filled with players at the end of the road or with low ceilings like Nunez, Gardner, Hughes et al. Maybe Pineda is a big hope, but what other pitcher currently in the system projects to be more than a mid-rotation pitcher within 2 years?

        Vote -1 Vote +1

        • Cool Lester Smooth says:

          Manny Banuelos should be healthy next year and De Paula could debut in 2015 if all goes well.

          Vote -1 Vote +1

        • Ruki Motomiya says:

          Yankees are only 3.5 Games back from the wildcard.

          Remember last year when the Red Sox needed to blow up A-Gon, Crawford and the team and go into rebuilding mode?

          I’m a Blue Jays guy, but I wouldn’t worry about the Yankees. They have resources, tend to use them fairly well (Wells would have worked out fine if Granderson didn’t get injured again, for example, and you can’t really predict getting your finger franctured a week after coming off the list) and the older players will retire and free up salary.

          Vote -1 Vote +1

        • Cool Lester Smooth says:

          @Ruki Exactly, everyone is freaking out about how terrible the Wells pickup was, but if Grandy had come back on time it would have been a coup. He hit like .270 with 9 home runs in the first six weeks.

          Vote -1 Vote +1

  9. JN says:

    Thank you. I have been trying to convince people for 7 years that Soriano is not a terrible outfielder. He is just an awkward looking dude who scares you a little bit, but he gets the job done.

    Vote -1 Vote +1

  10. Jason B says:

    “Yankee righties have a .589 OPS”

    Holy damn that is mind-boggling. The Yankees righties have colelctively been a team of Pete Kozma’s.

    +5 Vote -1 Vote +1

  11. Hurtlockertwo says:

    Hunter Pence, I’m thinking the Giants are selling about now.

    Vote -1 Vote +1

  12. Federico says:

    Are you entirely sure that “Rodriguez today resembles Rodriguez then […] in terms of genetics”? We still ignore many effects of PEDs on DNA.

    Vote -1 Vote +1

  13. za says:

    On a somewhat related note, I just went through the preseason FanGraphs Top 15 Prospects for the Yankees and damn, have those guys done poorly this year. Ouch.

    Vote -1 Vote +1

  14. Johnny Ringo says:

    I don’t think it would be fair to say that Soriano can’t carry the Yankees. He had more homers than the entire team in July, and when Soriano gets hot, there are few in the game better.

    If he rides a hot streak the next month or two for the bombers a lot of tunes could be changing quickly.

    Vote -1 Vote +1

  15. skmd says:

    Given that the Subs have made it clear they’re willing to eat most of Soriano’s salary, the only detriment to trading for him is his questionable defense. As a Cub fan it’s frustratinng to read blog comments and listen to sports talk by people who obviously formed their opinion of Soriano’s defense 5 years ago and haven’t seen him play since. Even local icon Steve Stone, when asked earlier this year why the Dodgers chose to go with Carl Crawford over Alphonso Soriano, said, “Because Crawford is worth every penny he’s paid, while Soriano isn’t worth one penny of what they’re paying him.”
    Wow, an amazing statement from someone who’s paid to know better. I was disappointed, but no longer surprised, when the Yankees traded for Wells while Soriano was available. Maybe now that all other options have been exhausted, some team in need of a bat will do the sensible thing and trade for Soriano.

    Vote -1 Vote +1

    • AnthonySoprano says:

      Steve Stone would become physically ill if he had to say one good thing about any Cub. The man is incapable of objectivity when it comes to them so I ignore everything he says about them.

      Vote -1 Vote +1

  16. skmd says:

    that’s Cubs, not Subs

    Vote -1 Vote +1

    • DNA+ says:

      I really thought you were trying to be funny calling them the Subs. I was thinking, if the Cubs are the Subs, then what are the Yankees? Sub-Subs?

      Vote -1 Vote +1

      • Skmd says:

        I’ve seen my team called so many derogatory variations of Cubs, I would never propogate those insults even as a joke. The white sux on the other hand….

        Vote -1 Vote +1

  17. Murray Chase says:

    Forgive me if I missed it, but I don’t see where the author addressed the point he brought up early on about the Yankees having a full outfield once Granderson comes back?

    Is Soriano that much of an upgrade over Ichiro? If Soriano could play 3B, it’d make sense, but as the author points out, the Yankees outfield is actually pretty complete once Granderson comes back.

    Of course if the Yankees don’t think Granderson will come back, then the Soriano deal makes sense.

    Vote -1 Vote +1

    • Jason B says:

      With as fragile and uncertain as the OF has been for the NYY this year, not to mention the DH slot, Soriano would get PLENTY of playing time (or there would be plenty of playing time to divide amongst Soriano, Granderson, Gardner, and Ichiro even when they’re all active).

      Vote -1 Vote +1

    • JayT says:

      If he’s not an upgrade over Ichiro, he certainly is an upgrade over Hafner and whoever else they’ve been playing at DH.

      Vote -1 Vote +1

  18. jsolid says:

    if this happens, its because Granderson is a free agent, and Soriano would be insurance for not signing him.

    Vote -1 Vote +1

  19. nilbog44 says:

    The Yankees don’t need to acquire Soriano. They don’t need to improve at all. They are perfectly happy having guys like Vernon Wells, Eduardo Nunez, Overbay, or Lillibridge go 1 for 5 every night but somehow manage to string together a bunch of hits and find a way to win. Only the Yankees could have a lineup that terrible but still somehow be a few games over .500 and in the playoff hunt. Man I hate them

    Vote -1 Vote +1

  20. s.sonics says:

    Time to dust off the #12 jersey. Is it possible to bring back Juan Rivera for a 2001 World Series reunion special. Last man standing!!

    Vote -1 Vote +1

  21. AnthonySoprano says:

    One point not mentioned yet is a possible compensation pick in 2015.

    Vote -1 Vote +1

    • Cool Lester Smooth says:

      That’s probably because no one in there right mind would give a 38 year old Alfonso Soriano a QO.

      Vote -1 Vote +1

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *

You may use these HTML tags and attributes: <a href="" title=""> <abbr title=""> <acronym title=""> <b> <blockquote cite=""> <cite> <code> <del datetime=""> <em> <i> <q cite=""> <strike> <strong>