Padres Manager Andy Green on Defensive Shifts

Andy Green embraces shifts. The first-year San Diego Padres manager showed that last season in Arizona when, as the team’s third-base coach, he was put in charge of defensive positioning. The Diamondbacks employed 587 shifts in 2015, more than twice as many as the year before. It was a contributing factor to the club’s league-best Defensive Runs Saved total. Meanwhile, the Padres were one of the worst defensive teams in either league.

I recently asked Green for his thoughts on shifting in the outfield — should it be done more? — and my question prompted a short discussion on the subject of shifting as a whole.

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Green on extreme shifts: “I think it’s possible (to shift more in the outfield). If you want to throw some crazy things off the wall, you can look at certain guys and wonder if it’s wise to put a fifth infielder on the field. Look at Dee Gordon’s spray chart when you pitch him a certain way. Do you want to do it? I’m probably not the first one who’s going to do it. Maybe we’ll put that ball in Joe Maddon’s court, because he seems to be the guy who likes to do those kinds of things first. But shoot, there is a lot of data that would support moving the outfield aggressively at certain times. I don’t think we’ll be out-of-this-world extraordinary, but we will be progressive.

“Look at a DJ LeMehieu’s spray chart. Look at his tendencies. He might be somebody who falls into that type of category. It’s a matter of what you’re willing to do about it. You also have to factor in another equation: he might change his approach. Of course, wth a lot of guys there could be a positive to that.

“When I was in charge of shifting… I’ve done a lot of count shifting. You expose the right side, even on a guy who’s not a full-out shift, and maybe it changes the thought process of the hitter. Maybe you want him to try to shoot a ball the other way in a certain count.”

On the psychological component: “I’m the kind of guy who is going to explore every idea. I’m going to listen to whatever the data says. At the same time, I’m going to trust our players and bring them along. I think there is a psychological element to shifting. You have to be sure that your players are completely on board. You have to communicate it out front. You have to make sure that the pitcher on the mound isn’t doubting it.

“You have to look at the advantage gained by the shift and factor in any psychological disadvantage if the pitcher doesn’t embrace what you’re doing behind him. That might outweigh the shift. You’d be foolish to not recognize those types of psychological ramifications. You move accordingly, and you also make sure that guys are aware of what you’re doing, in advance.”

On hitters changing their approach: “Look at Mike Moustakas last year. There was a change. There was a noticeable change. He was bunting in spring training — he’d never been successful doing that — and he bunted some during the year.

“There are some that change, but again, you have to ask if there is an advantage in forcing them to change. By and large, very few players engage in changing, but as the shift becomes more ubiquitous, I think you’re going to see more people responding to it. I’ve heard that a manager in the league is generating a shift-offense plan right now.”

On roster construction and shifting: “Looking at the construction of our roster, we have very minimal shift candidates. Matt Kemp can be shifted. Brett Wallace can be shifted. But the guys we have in camp — we’re not radically disposed to being shifted against.

“I think you look for the best available player and factor in what shift defense is doing to certain types of players. Look at Pittsburgh. You look at signing pitchers within a certain philosophy and then positioning players according to that philosophy. You’re seeing some teams do things like that. The game is evolving, and it’s important to evolve along with it.”



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David Laurila grew up in Michigan's Upper Peninsula and now writes about baseball from his home in Cambridge, Mass. He authored the Prospectus Q&A series at Baseball Prospectus from February 2006-March 2011 and is a regular contributor to several publications. His first book, Interviews from Red Sox Nation, was published by Maple Street Press in 2006. He can be followed on Twitter @DavidLaurilaQA.


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david k
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david k
2 months 23 days ago

I just wanted to point out that this site has bashed the Dbacks for being “old school” and not using advanced metrics. The opening of this article seems to indicate, at least for defensive positioning, the Dbacks were not playing it “old school”.

Richie
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Richie
2 months 23 days ago

How dare you say something good about the Dbacks?? Oh wait, you didn’t credit Dave Stewart for any of it, did you?

david k
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david k
2 months 22 days ago

I knew someone would respond this way.

SO, Dave Stewart is the GM and is responsible for staffing the team, is he not? I know the manager is also responsible for picking bench coaches, etc, but I am sure that the coaching staff has regular meetings, and the GM is involved in what’s going on with the team, so yes, Stewart may have had at least SOME involvement with Green’s handling of the defensive positioning.

nchouinard
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2 months 21 days ago

Nick Ahmed makes a lot of defensive shifts look good. Not as sure about Alexei Ramirez.

kenoshakid
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kenoshakid
2 months 23 days ago

This is the best news about the Padres that I’ve heard in a while

Mattabattacola
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Mattabattacola
2 months 23 days ago

It is time for baseball to wake up and realize that this isnt “shifting” its just defensive positioning. Defense in any sport is reactionary, if you play against Tom Brady you focus on the passing game and align your defense accordingly. If you are trying to stop Steph Curry you get in his face the moment he crosses half court. Baseball’s age of archaic defense is over, and everyone (given the available data) will play where people hit the ball. Just like in any sport players will make adjustments but FINALLY baseball teams are forcing the players to make adjustments.

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