Broadcaster Rankings (TV): #10 – #1

Introduction and #31
#30 – #21
#20 – #11

Beginning in late November, we’ve spent much of the offseason asking readers to rate the television broadcast teams (on a scale of 1-5 for charisma, analysis, and then overall) for all 30 major-league clubs — with the intention, ultimately, of determining which broadcasts might best reflect the sorts of inquiry and analysis performed here at the site. (Click here for more on this project.)

Below are the 10th- through 1st-ranked television broadcast teams, per the FanGraphs readership.

But first, three notes:
• Teams are ranked in ascending order of Overall rating. Overall ratings are not merely averages of Charisma and Analysis.
• I’ve attempted to choose reader comments that are either (a) illustrative of the team’s place in the rankings or (b) conspicuously amusing.
• A complete table of ratings and ballots cast will appear in these pages Friday.

10. Tampa Bay Rays
Broadcasters: Dewayne Staats and Brian Anderson
Ratings (Charisma/Analysis/Overall): 3.3, 3.2, 3.4

Three Reader Comments
• “Brian Anderson was a huge upgrade over Kevin Kennedy.”
• “Generally good, except for too frequent gigglefits from Brian Anderson.”
• “Dewayne… dominates too much with the same canned pregame notes over and over (Johnny Damon’s hit counts being a big example). By the end of the year, BA was almost openly making fun of him, which was a big part of why we liked him.”

Notes
The comments for the Rays broadcast team don’t match up particularly well with the favorable rating. There are a number of negative — if not particularly expansive — comments not published here. The 35 votes received by the Rays broadcast was among the lowest of any team, and might explain the lack of consistency between the numbers and written responses.

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9. Oakland Athletics
Broadcasters: Glen Kuiper and Ray Fosse
Ratings (Charisma/Analysis/Overall): 3.4, 3.2, 3.4

Three Reader Comments
• “Think it’s a good team. They let the game breathe. Sometimes they seem a little dull, but its more do to a stagnant A’s franchise in the last few years.”
• “Kuiper seems pretty fungible to me. If I took a DeLorean from 2001 to now I probably wouldn’t notice that he wasn’t Greg Papa for at least 3 innings. I think Fosse is pretty great, though. He can be a little ‘old school’ sometimes, which Kuip doesn’t offset at all, but he’s very likeable, has a good voice and is a good story teller.”
• “Fosse has been pulled down by Kuiper in terms of broadcasting acumen. When Fosse worked with Greg Pappa, Fosse was a lot better than he is now.”

Notes
There’s almost unanimous support among respondents here for colorman Ray Fosse. The comments regarding Kuiper are mixed, but generally point to him being competent.

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8. Detroit Tigers
Broadcasters: Mario Impemba and Rod Allen
Ratings (Charisma/Analysis/Overall): 3.6, 3.0, 3.5

Three Reader Comments
• “Mario Impemba is a solid if unspectacular announcer; he stays out of the way of the game, which is something that a lot of announcers don’t seem to understand or execute.”
• “I would have scored higher for Rod Allen if this was cast individually. Mario Impemba, although not bad at all, is just so average that he weighs the entire broadcast and broadcasting duo down to average. That being said, I’d rather have someone like Impemba who ‘lets the game do the talking’ over somebody who constantly talks over it or who tries to ‘sell’ me on the game/sport I’m already watching.”
• “Mario Impemba is one of the bust in the business.” [sic]

Notes
If there’s a criticism from respondents, it’s mostly that Rod Allen can get silly. After watching several broadcasts last year to the end of writing this review, I felt Allen actually had a nice way of making simple but elegant observations that added to the game narrative.

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7. Milwaukee Brewers
Broadcasters: Brian Anderson and Bill Schroeder
Ratings (Charisma/Analysis/Overall): 3.6, 3.2, 3.6

Three Reader Comments
• “Brian Anderson is outstanding and by himself makes the pair above average.”
• “Occasional viewers may find the pairing a tad vanilla, but consistent viewers can appreciate the small details the two notice during games.”
• “Analysis becomes a 4 (possibly 5) when Jeff Cirillo is in over Bill Schroeder.”

Notes
The favorable rating from FanGraphs readers appears due largely to Anderson’s play-by-play work — with which those outside the Milwaukee market (i.e. mostly everyone) will have heard courtesy his (Anderson’s) playoff work with TBS. Like San Diego’s Mark Grant and San Francisco’s Mike Krukow, Schroeder possesses the voice of an archetypal Baseball Man.

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6. Chicago Cubs
Broadcasters: Len Kasper and Bob Brenly
Ratings (Charisma/Analysis/Overall): 3.7, 3.9, 3.9

Three Reader Comments
• “Their balance is very good and they’ve improved immensely since their 2005 debut. When games are close, they do not detract from the on-field action; when the games are blowouts, their conversation does wander, but in a very entertaining way… Bob often tells stories from his playing days that are funny and self-deprecating.”
• “Len Kasper is outstanding and often cites FanGraphs in an unobtrusive way that introduces more advanced stats. Bob Brenly’s greatest asset as a broadcaster may be allowing Len to talk about these concepts without much interjection, although he occasionally produces astute analysis.”
• “Brenly can predict the future.”

Notes
As these, and other, repondents note, Kasper has cited FanGraphs with some frequency over the last year or two (or more, maybe, I don’t know). So far as I know, he’s really only rivaled by Yankees part-time colorman David Cone in terms of his comfort with advanced stats.

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5. Boston Red Sox
Broadcasters: Don Orsillo and Jerry Remy
Ratings (Charisma/Analysis/Overall): 4.0, 3.6, 4.0

Three Reader Comments
• “The broadcasts feel appropriately ‘regional.’ (Accents help.)”
• “They can be hilarious. Sometimes being hilarious is unprofessional. Sometimes being hilarious leads to unintentionally unrestrained laughter-squeaks and pauses in commentary due to breath-catching. Never have I seen/hear this from other broadcasting teams, so it’s pleasantly unique.”
• “They don’t try to do too much, they’re comfortable with their audience, and they can be hilarious. They almost never tell me something I don’t know though, and tell me things I know are wrong not unfrequently.”

Notes
The comment about the broadcast being regionally appropriate is astute, I think. The accents, yeah, but also the nature of the banter between Remy and Orsillo. My guess is that the sorts of things that readers dislike about Remy and Orsillo are the sorts of things they dislike about Bostonians, generally.

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4. Houston Astros
Broadcasters: Bill Brown and Jim Deshaies
Ratings (Charisma/Analysis/Overall): 4.3, 4.1, 4.2

Three Reader Comments
• “FanGraphs and other analytical blogs have been mentioned on the broadcast before. While the team may suck the Houston fan base is lucky to have such a good broadcasting crew to get through the season.”
• “We, as Astros fans, are lucky to have these guys. They can be quite funny and informative at times. Maybe not the sharpest at play by play, but very entertaining.”
• “They are the only reason I will watch the Astros lose over 100 games again this coming season.”

Notes
There won’t have been any particularly compelling reasons for non-fans to have sought out Astro games of late, so the reader is excused if he hasn’t seen this broadcast team at work. Note, however, that the comments for Brown and (especially) Deshaies are almost uniformly gushing.

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3. San Francisco Giants
Broadcasters: Duane Kuiper and Mike Krukow
Ratings (Charisma/Analysis/Overall): 4.7, 4.4, 4.7

Three Reader Comments
• “This is a great broadcast crew to listen to if you want to hear about the finer details of pitch sequencing and pitching strategy. Krukow is very good at offering non-Lowest Common Denominator analysis, and while being a former player, doesn’t fall into the ‘gritty grindy’ analysis trap.”
• “Kruk and Kuip are great and hearing a game called by them is a treat. They’re funny, personable, and impart plenty of knowledge and stories from their playing days to the viewers. My only real complaint is that they rarely if ever criticize the team’s decisions. There are ways to do that without being nasty, or come off as downers, but they always act like every decision made by the Giants is the right one (Krukow especially).”
• “On [umpire] Jeff Kellogg taking a foul tip to the groin: ‘Two balls, one strike.’”

Notes
There does seem to be a great deal of affection among respondents for Kuiper and Krukow. Also, probably over 50% of the comments make a point of noting the contributions of radio (and occasional TV) broadcaster Jon Miller, too.

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2. New York Mets
Broadcasters: Gary Cohen, Ron Darling, and Keith Hernandez
Ratings (Charisma/Analysis/Overall): 4.6, 4.4, 4.7

Three Reader Comments
• “I’m a Phillies fan, but am forced to watch Mets games where I live, which are only tolerable due to this announcing crew.”
• “#GKR Drinking Game
• “And to all the fathers out there, happy birthday.”

Notes
The only recurring (and substantive) criticism from respondents is that Cohen is resistant to quantitative analysis. Other than that, it’s mostly like, “I wanna marry these guys forever.”

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1. Los Angeles Dodgers (Home)
Broadcasters: Vin Scully
Ratings (Charisma/Analysis/Overall): 4.8, 4.5, 4.7

Three Reader Comments
• “Certainly, Mr. Cistulli, it is only a technical error which prevents me from giving Vin Scully a ranking several values higher than ’5′ on your scale, or am I mistaken?”
• “It is amazing that he does this well, and alone. Maybe other announcers should do the play-by-play AND the color themselves?”
• “America!”

Notes
Vin Scully has been an excellent broadcaster since that time in our nation’s history when men wore fedoras unironically.




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  1. Skyscraper Jesus says:

    Keith Hernandez makes 72-90 tolerable.

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    • Jesse says:

      Totally true. Hadn’t paid much attention to this project, so glad these guys did so well. Yeah they could be more saber but they’re great otherwise.
      Its too bad the jets don’t have great announcers because between these guys and clyde, sports broadcasting has made a lot of miserable new york sports fan years more tolerable.

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    • Keith Hernandez says:

      I’m Keith Hernandez!

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  2. AndyS says:

    YESSS THE PIZZA VIDEO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT BACK TO ME

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  3. Tvators says:

    Nice to see the Mets win something!! (since Scully is in a league of his own, #2 is winning!)

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    • vivalajeter says:

      That was my thought as well. Scully was obviously going to win, as he has the “Lifetime Achievement” feel to him. Among the normal announcers, I can’t say I’m surprised that the Mets’ team won. I watch a number of games on MLB.tv and they seem to be the best team around – knowledgeable, without being homers. While a team’s fans might like to have homer announcers, it’s easier for a casual observer to watch a broadcast when the announcers don’t take sides.

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      • Shamik says:

        This. The best thing about watching a Mets broadcast is how objective these guys are. They praise the opponents when they make good plays and when they feature strong players. In the same vein they call out the Mets (for the most part) when they don’t play up to snuff (often).

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  4. YX says:

    It absolutely buffles me that Don and Jerry can be rated so high. I guess they are OK… except when Jerry non stop hawking his stuff (I admit it’s not as bad as a few years back, but still), and Don’s non stop school girl giggle (which is getting progressively worse, on the other hand).

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    • geo says:

      I dislike Don and Jerry as well, but to insinuate that means I dislike Bostonians in general is a ridiculous generalization.

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    • Ryan says:

      I don’t know, YX. Are you from New England? I’ve always enjoyed their banter (and for that matter, the rapport Remy and Sean McDonough had when they used to be on Fox25). Some occasional levity in the booth (especially in games that are out of hand) can definitely be a welcome break. E.g., or .

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  5. Ian says:

    From a production standpoint, the Rays broadcast is as poor as anything I’ve seen from a professional sport’s team. I’m pretty sure the director and producers are college interns and the cameramen are amateurs. The picture quality is also among the lowest in baseball, right down there with the Astros and Pirates. The color-balancing is completely off, as are the white levels. So ugly to watch.

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  6. To recap: 31-2 = not Vin Scully, 1: Vin Scully.

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  7. nmigliore says:

    Awesome to see the Mets’ team rank so high on the list. I don’t care if I’m biased, outside of Vin Scully, GKR are the best. They have to be #1 in entertainment value too; Keith is a riot. Gary Cohen can get a little annoying with traditionalist viewpoints but he’s still a fantastic PBP guy and Ron compliments both of them well. They even have their own site with a store: http://www.pitchinforagoodcause.org/index.php/GKR-Store/vmchk.html

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  8. LTG says:

    If I believed in acontextual meaning, I would assure you that I wear fedoras unironically. But, since I don’t, I can only say that I wear them ambiguously with the hope that the disambiguation will fall on my side in the future.

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    • j bones says:

      we gotta be careful man, we aren’t Cubans, we can get real unfashionable real quick. One fedora per crew

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  9. bertrecords says:

    Ralph Kiner, 89 years old, was one of the Mets broadcasters last year. Maybe, it was a cameo. I liked him a lot– thought he was the Mets best guy!

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    • Jeffrey Paternostro says:

      Ralph usually stops by for most Sunday afternoon home games. And yes, he is awesome. He’s actually more SABR that GKR, which is always amusing.

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    • srt says:

      Ralph usually joins the broadcast crew for the middle innings on weekends at home, usually for a day game. Translation: he joins GKR several times a year.

      Still sharp, still knows the game and is often heard commenting on advanced stats. ‘Only we didn’t call them sabermetrics back in my day’.

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    • nmigliore says:

      Yeah, Ralph still is part of some broadcasts. Like Jeff noted, it’s typically the Sunday afternoon games. He’s a very smart fellow too.

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      • David K says:

        It’s interesting that Kiner shows his “baseball intelligence” on the telecasts, and at the same time, his malaprops rival Yogi Berra’s. To wit:

        “All of Rick Aguilera’s saves have come in relief appearances.”
        “All the Met wins on the road against Los Angeles this year have come at Dodger stadium.”
        “It’s Father’s Day today at Shea, so to all you fathers out there, Happy Birthday.”

        I grew up listening to him, Lindsey Nelson, and Bob Murphy, by the way.

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      • Franco says:

        The weirdest thing about Kiner is how he sounds more clear headed at 89 after a stroke and bells palsy than when he was a healthy middle aged man. I still loved him brain farts and all growing up.

        Kevin McElster, Tim MacArthur, lol

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      • Wobatus says:

        Plus Ralph will mention past flames like Ava Gardner. No Tawny Kitaens for him.

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  10. Ethan says:

    As a Met fan I was following intently and it did not disappoint, always nice to see the Mets ranked high in something. The best part of GKR though is they love the job and announcing with each other, and Kevin Burkhardt is great too

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  11. glassSheets says:

    Of the ones I actually watched enough to vote on, my personal list was pretty close to the group think. I had Arizona higher and the Mets much lower. Keith Hernandez and Darling actually annoy me while I am entertained by Sutton and Grace. Apparently I’m one of the few for each of these. I wanted to like the Mets team simply because of Keith Hernandez’s Seinfeld appearance, but I just couldn’t convince myself I like his work.

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  12. Brett W says:

    Len Kasper is a tool, but luckily, he’s the right tool for the job.

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    • Jack Nugent says:

      Wow. This couldn’t be further from the truth. Len is a total pro, and quite clearly a super intelligent dude.

      I would be very surprised to know there’s a single play-by-play guy out there with as much knowledge and acceptance of baseball analytics, and as was previously mentioned– he knows how to unobtrusively include his knowledge in the broadcast.

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  13. Ben G. says:

    good call on the Met’s team. Living in the great state of New York, I much prefer Mets’ broadcasts over the Yanks.

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  14. Tom B says:

    I generally find the Brewers and Rays broadcasts to be unwatchable because of the announcer, so seeing them on this list surprises me greatly.

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  15. Nathan says:

    Rod Allen is a 4 on the “charisma” measure but a 1 on the “analysis.” Based on his analysis, if Rod Allen built a baseball team, it would be all Brandon Inges, Gerald Lairds, and Ramon Santiagos. Because they’re just in slumps, and really are hitting the ball hard. Eventually that luck will turn around.

    Sigh.

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  16. Wedernoch says:

    Glad to see the Astros announcers ranked so high. One of the most difficult transitions in my life was moving from Houston to Iowa a couple years ago; not only is Iowa Hawkeye country, it is also Hawk Harrelson country.

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  18. Hurtlockertwo says:

    Kruk and Kuip are the best after Mr. Skully, the Boston group are terrible.

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  19. SF 55 for life says:

    the vince scully love is really people praising his past performance. he was great back in the day but now he is a joke. Dude talks about the most random crap for full innings.He never gives the viewer a break from his nonsensical stories, dude doesn’t shut up. I remember one time during a Giants vs. Dodgers game Scully spent an entire half inning explaining why Benito Santiago drives a hummer now instead of a corvette. What a joke.

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    • He’s earned it. It’s like listening to your grandpa tell the same stories again and again. You don’t get mad at him because you love him. In fact, it becomes an endearing quality.

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    • Bryz says:

      Go home, Giants fan.

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    • Ivdown says:

      People like you need to just STFU and actually respect legends.

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    • Baltar says:

      I couldn’t agree more. His so-called “analysis” is consistently wrong, he often misdescribes what is happening and his long-winded stories and constantly repeated anecdotes make me want to vomit.
      I really believe that people praise him just because everybody else does.

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      • Greg H says:

        Next week, Baltar will bless us with the following opinions:

        1. Most overrated President? Lincoln. We wouldn’t remember him if he hadn’t been shot.

        2. Everytime I hear someone rave about the brilliance of Shakespeare, I want to vomit. The man couldn’t even write a poem over 14 lines.

        3. Beethoven was a decent pianist, but his compositions are derivative, repetitive, and overlong.

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    • Matt says:

      To suggest that Vin Scully never shuts up is patently wrong. I find he’s more than comfortable with some dead air, and he’ll let the game speak for itself at times.

      To his credit, he’s one of the few broadcasters that I’ll still listen to when the game is no longer exciting.

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      • nosferatu says:

        Exactly this–although it certainly does help that he has no broadcast partner (I certainly never minded when Jon Miller did radio solo for the Giants).

        Anyway, speaking as a Giants fan, I still can’t get enough of Scully. No matter the validity of the criticisms, listening to him simply makes me remember why I fell in love with baseball in the first place.

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      • elf says:

        Scully will talk far more during the first three innings than he will in the latter six because he knows that TV is a visual medium and radio is not, He knows that if he is doing TV only he can let the picture and crowd noise tell the story and all he has to do is complement it.

        But let’s put it like this: Vinny was inducted into the HOF in 1984. If you discard everything he did through 1984 he would be inducted again for his career fron 1985 to the present.

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    • He actually does shut up when it matters, when the situation calls for it, unlike most broadcasters who are too busy screaming like homers.

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    • Steve says:

      I agree; Vin Scully is exhausting to listen to. Take a breath dude! Sounds like he’s reading the media guide. I don’t need constant monologue with my baseball.
      The Mets team is the best, hands down. The Astros is also excellent. Both NL Class of ’62!
      Hawk Harrelson is utterly unlistenable. If he was the first baseball announcer I’d ever heard, I’d probably not be a fan now. Just putrid.

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    • joet says:

      Could not agree more.

      The worst – unwatchable.

      I will say this. It’s my understanding that his TV broadcast is also the radio broadcast. If so, that will partially explain his continuous blabbering.

      Still – 30 out of 30 for me.

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  20. Ira says:

    In Gary’s defense on the analysis issue, he frequently emphasizes OBP and OPS. I know that’s not high level stuff, but he’s not so traditional as to drool over BA.

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    • 20389438 says:

      But he’s pretty much said outright he has no interest in anything beyond what you said. I don’t really care though as long as a guy isn’t saying “advanced stats are bs and I refuse to budge on the topic” like Joe Morgan. Cohen is a top-notch PBP guy.

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  21. dockmarm says:

    “You pitch deep into a ball game to give your chance a team to win.”
    – Bob Brenly

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  22. Jon A says:

    Great article. My thoughts:
    1) Its an almost impossible task because certain teams are just unlistenable at first (White Sox and Yankees) but then you realize the schtik value and its not so bad.
    2) I’m not a huge Vin Scully fan (too much talking), but I can’t disagree with him as #1. His knowledge of the game is unsurpassed.
    3) Detroit’s team should be higher. As an opposing team’s fan, they are relatively unbiased, often complimentary, and knowledgeable. I always enjoy their broadcasts.
    4) Tampa’s team should be much lower. One reason: nonstop complaining about calls. The David v. Goliath thing also gets on my nerves.

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    • Sandy Kazmir says:

      Stop the overabundance of truly awful calls and you’ll be able to treat the cause, not the symptom. As a watcher of virtually every game since 2006, the Rays average at least one bad call a game, and one outrageously bad call a week.

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      • 20389438 says:

        Well, you’re certainly an unbiased source, so I will not be taking what you said with a grain of salt.

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      • Ari Collins says:

        Theory #1: the umpires have a conspiracy against the Rays.

        Theory #2: there might be some memory bias going on here.

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  23. Tom says:

    Where are the White Sox?

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  24. PDR297 says:

    J.D. really is one of the best announcers around. At least the Astros can finish in the top 5 of something!

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  25. game6ers says:

    After living in the Bay Area for a brief period, I couldn’t stand the giants crew, especially Kuiper. Krukow is ok, but Kuiper voids any positives. Couldn’t stand listening to the guy.

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    • Baltar says:

      I realize that this may not be the announcers fault, but the constant showing of cute kids shots on the broadcasts really annoys me.
      Also, I really want to hear serious discussions about the game, not a lot of adolescent humor.
      Replace them both with Jon Miller, please.

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      • Delirium Nocturnum says:

        A’s fan, not a Giants fan, but have to agree about Jon Miller – great voice, solid play-by-play. Kruk & Kuip engage a little too much crowd watching – drawing on people, scratching them out – for my taste. Silly and not in a funny way. They remind me of morning radio sports show guys.

        I love me some Ken Korach, too. Have to say I’m a little surprised with how highly ranked Kuiper and Fosse are – I usually watch games on mute, listen to Korach, and run in to see the tv if something exciting happens. Fosse is a bit of a homer. Good stories, though.

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      • SFEvl1 says:

        Showing the crowd and kids is all part of the game experience. It’s like you’re there at the park. Maybe you don’t listen to them much because I bust up laughing all the time. They make the whole game fun.

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  26. Ken Arneson says:

    So how do the Giants rank lower than the Mets, when the Giants had a higher score by 0.1?

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    • Krog says:

      Only the Overall score is used to determine ratings. The Mets must have a slightly higher (although not shown) Overall score.

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    • glassSheets says:

      The rankings are only based on overall. I’m assuming the Mets ranked higher with more digits shown.

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  27. Baltar says:

    I still totally disagree on Scully for reasons I’ve posted before.
    I am pleased to see the Mets announcers as the real winners. Based on a sample of one inning, in a special ESPN broadcast that was mostly Al Michaels and Chris Berman, I thought they were the best announcers I’d ever heard. They blew Kruk and Kuip away and were even further above Michaels and Berman.

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  28. jp_on_rye says:

    I’m very happy to see Kruk and Kuip did so well. Along with David B. Flemming and Jon, they always make it fun to watch/listen to Giants games.

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  29. Mark says:

    I am absolutely shocked that people like Ray Fosse and Glen Kuiper. As a Bay Area resident I watch a lot of A’s games and find them to just awful. I usually have to mute it after an inning or two.

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    • Krog says:

      Kuiper is pretty bad, but he is usually easy to just ignore. Fosse offers real insight into the game, particularly with regard to the catcher position. You’re probably just feeling sick from the A’s play on the field.

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      • Jesse says:

        All of my friends that are A’s fans don’t care for their broadcasters at all. It must be because they turn it to the Giants game and see how much better the Giants have it. Also the sound quality for some reason is much worse when watching the A’s games. Next time change between the two and you will notice a substantial difference in audio quality.

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    • Brian says:

      My issue with Ray Fosse and Glen Kuiper is they always sound bored while doing the games. I guess the A’s haven’t given much to be excited about, but they never seem to put any energy into it.

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  30. Well-Beered Englishman says:

    Two guys named Brian Anderson in the top 10? That’s not confusing.

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  31. Matt says:

    I’m wondering where Bob Costas might rank were he eligible for this list. I know he’d be in my top 3 for sure, and possibly even 1st.

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    • nosferatu says:

      It would be interesting to see a ranking of national announcers, too, but regarding Costas, he’s a guy I used to like a ton when I was younger, but he’s changed–when he’s announcing now he uses the forum as something of a bully pulpit and can be very off-putting with his strong and intractable opinions.

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    • Franco says:

      The best part about Costas is his almost pathologic baseball references when he announces a non baseball event.

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  32. Llewdor says:

    I reall enjoy Orsillo and Remy. I recall once during a game they wer overcome with paroxysms of laughter when they saw Manny Ramirez sitting in the dugout gently stroking Julian Tavares’s head. At first they laughed, and were confused. But they kept calling the game. But between every pitch, back on the monitor came Manny and Julian, and eventually Don and Jerry just lost it. It was hilarious.

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  33. robertobeers says:

    In reference to my comment about the Giants’ broadcasters, here is an image of the event described by Krukow. https://yfrog.com/a/img34/131/pirn.jpg

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  34. Johnny Come Lately says:

    Thanks for doing this Carson. I really enjoyed this series.

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  35. WhatLeylandNoooo says:

    I though this was a fantastic idea executed supremely. As an Extra Innings owner, I often have games on in the background (when the Tigers aren’t playing) and I usually pick because of who’s broadcasting the game. I’ve done it by memory before but this will be an even better tool. (I look forward to giving the Astros’ team a shot. I had no idea.)

    It seems like a lot of voters are split between the play-by-play man and the analyst, preferring one over the other. Although the sum may be better or worse than the parts, perhaps next year include some way to vote individually on each person and also the duo as a whole. It might be interesting to see an individual ranking of analysts and play-by-play men.

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    • hobbes9 says:

      I do the same with MLB.tv and this will be a great tool to use this season. When I am not actually sitting and seriously watching a game, tuning in simply for the enjoyment aspect is really fun. I love getting different perspectives and hearing from a variety of different broadcasters.

      It would be interesting splitting the vote between the analyst and the play-by-play man. One could be great and the other terrible making the decision to sit through the broadcast a difficult one.

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  36. Michael says:

    Whoa, is no one talking about Uecker on the radio for the Brewers? It’s a guarantee that I’ll fire up MLB At Bat for the radio feed at that point.

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  37. rcordrey says:

    i’ve said it before and i’ll say it again: listening to vin scully is painful.

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  38. Greg says:

    Good to see the Mets broadcast crew get their proper recognition as the best broadcast crew in baseball (Vin Scully doesn’t count).

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  39. Allan G says:

    I feel like Boston fans like Boston announcers a lot more because they’re very ‘regional’, while if they were on a national scale there would probably be more disdain for them.

    Obviously Boston fans are going to upvote their own guys if they like them, so I understand that.

    Vin Scully definitely deserving of #1. Love watching the games with him on.

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  40. Dorothy says:

    What happened to Kruk and Kuip and Jon Miller?

    Always a treat to listen to them. I can’t wait to listen to them this year as well!

    Who rates these broadcasters, anyway? Doesn’t make any sense to not list them. They do a fabulous job!!!

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  41. deadhead says:

    I love the Remdawg and Orsillo. Plus, you get some good guests, Sean Casey or Eck sometimes and the still strong Heidi Watney.

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  42. nosferatu says:

    As a Giants fan who loves Kruk and Kuip, I’ve suffered through the past decade listening to the guys from Pittsburgh, Cleveland, and Cincinnati.

    Now I’ll be moving to upstate New York this summer. If only the Mets didn’t suck. But still, worth watching my local team for the first time in years.

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  43. Ragoczy says:

    Observations from a Dodgers fan-

    We are desperately TRYING to get a new owner. Thank heavens McCrook will be gone before my next birthday.

    At the end of every season we Blue Crew fans wait with baited breath to find out if Vinny is returning. He has definitely lost a step–how many 84 year holds haven’t? But while he does factual mistakes, he more than makes up for it with the stories, knowledge and pacing. He lets the game speak for itself when it needs to. Plus his voice is like honey-butter it is so smooth.

    It will be a very, very sad day when Vinny turns off his microphone for good.

    I’ve been extremely lucky to be able to watch and listen to two of the greatest announcers of all time in Vin Scully and Dave Niehaus (I grew up in Seattle). They played no small part in my love of baseball.

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  44. nvsfg says:

    Kruk and Kuip are competent and knowledgeable broadcasters. They often compliment a player or opposing team on their performance, and other than demonstrating unwavering loyalty to decisions made by the organization, are not “homers” in the standard sense. As mentioned above, they do spend a lot of time on the crowd, but that comes along with being in San Francisco.
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    on Miller, in my opinion, is the heir apparent to Vin Scully. He offers an almost limitless knowledge of baseball with his own historical stories thrown into the mix, and the ability to paint a picture of the game with his description.

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    • Franco says:

      The Met guys loooovee opposing team’s young players. If the Mets are getting shut down by some young flamethrower you’d never know it was a Met broadcast. I say that in a good way. Especially when the team stinks anyways.

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  45. CoastalMike says:

    Kuiper is good, though he seems depressed, Krukow is good too, though he spends half his time crabbing about the umpires. Together they have a certain magic.

    If the word “scufflin” was bleeped out, fans across this country would be much happier. I mean, it would be hilarious.

    Ray Fosse is AW—-FUL.

    Yankees pair is execrable.

    You can quote me on these matters.

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  46. Max Neuberger says:

    There is no better baseball show than the Giants’ “Post Game Wrap” which includes Kuiper, Krukow, Miller and David B. Fleming and follows both TV and radio broadcasts. Truly hilarious at times, a “Best of” disc would make a great fund raiser. It offers a good commentary on the game, but most of all reminds us that this is still only a game. Some of the best ones have followed a Giant loss. Living in NYC, thankfully MLB radio finally remembers to stay on for it. Well, most of the time.

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  47. johnny 5 says:

    love remdawg he calls whats going to happen all the time and great analysis i put on the dodgers home broadcast when im trying to get to sleep scully is a stat factory

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  48. Andrew says:

    This is an underrated Remy/Orsillo clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWuDjbWGMeY

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  49. David Mahler says:

    I have nothing but respect for the amount of time that Vin Scully has put in, but it is time for him to hit the bench. We were unfortunate enough to have to listen to a Dodgers feed for our Giants games for one weekend and Scully is DONE. He can’t remember names, his analysis of the game was tremendously weak and his tone of voice is barely above a monotone. I had always heard wonderful things about him and this bordered on the kind of embarassing you have when your aged aunt breaks wind.

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  50. cs3 says:

    (3)Giants:
    4.7 – 4.4 – 4.7

    (2) Mets:
    4.6 – 4.4 – 4.7

    basic math tells me the ordering of this list is inaccurate.

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    • Jon says:

      The 4.7 is not a function of the first two numbers. Its just a random “overall” rating of the team and thats how they were ranked (obviously the mets were higher when looking at more significant digits in that category.

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      • cs3 says:

        so then “overall” shouldnt the Giants have been placed ahead of the Mets?
        just seems weird that the higher score has a worse ranking.

        and i fail to see how significant digits could have altered the rounding error enough to change the ordering when the votes were only cast as whole numbers.

        not that any of this matters

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      • Jon says:

        ok so lets say the scores were as follows:

        giants: 4.70, 4.40, 4.70
        Mets: 4.60, 4.40, 4.71

        There ya go… Mets have the highest overall rating. Remember they are ONLY ranked by the 3rd number which is not just an average of the first two; its its own category entirely.

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  51. downbythebay says:

    i feel embarrassed to say that i do not recall vin scully at all.

    re-up on cs3. i think kruk+kuip > mets announcers

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  52. Jon says:

    Great to see the Metsies win this one, as they have a great broadcast team that are just really fun to watch.

    Its great to see Keith just moan in pain or sigh in disgust when the Mets are being, well, the Mets. Like Cohen will be announcing the play as the opponents get a walk-off hit and you’ll hear Keith in the back “tsk, …oh god… ugh.” hilarious. Also fun to watch them rail on someone who doesn’t execute fundamentally.

    Shout out to the kidcasters who join the team once a year and always end up calling home runs haha.

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  53. Clooch says:

    Native New Englander here. I’m ambivalent about Remy. I find his schtick alternatively charming and annoying. I just wanted to pipe up and say that I’ve never enjoyed listening to a broadcast as much as when Dennis Eckersley was subbing for Remy while he was sick. Eck is as good a broadcaster as he was a closer. There were several classic moments that I cannot find on youtube. Not sad to say, I’m kind of looking forward to Remy retiring so Eck can move to the booth full time.

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  54. illinibob says:

    Yes the Astros announcers are really good. And ANYTHING would be better than listening to Milo. Should have retired 5 years ago. DeShaies is really witty and Brown is very solid play by play guy. Also, a shoutout to the late great Ron Santo. At first, when I got XM, I couldn’t believe he was serious sometimes in his moanings and groanings. After a while, I came to love how he continued to live and die (sorry) with his Cubbies.

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  55. I can only comment on the Rays, Phillies, Mets, and Yankees broadcasts since I don’t have enough games watched of other teams.

    Rays – Good, not great. Not really a DeWayne Staats fan, but the broadcast is decent with the right color guy (read: not Kevin Kennedy). I’d think of them as middle-of-the-pack, but again, I can’t say for sure.

    Yankees – I actually like this team, all 500 of them. Kay can get a little too Yankee-homerish and leans on a certain few phrases too often, but he interacts really well with the analysts and isn’t afraid to have some fun. It’s even better when Ken Singleton fills in as PBP. He’s only an average PBP guy, objectively, but as a former player and usual analyst, he brings more to the table. When he does PBP, it’s a nice, understated broadcast of two former players watching a game. YES could do without the Kim Jones “sideline reports,” though I believe Jones took a new job this off-season so hopefully they just end it rather than replace her.

    Mets – The best of the four I watch with some regularity. As a Rays fan, the Yankees are usually my plan-B because of the whole AL thing, so I wish I could watch more with this team. Three-men booths are usually terrible, this one is great.

    Phillies – Awful. Tom McCarthy gets things wrong too often, Chris Wheeler brings nothing to the table, and Gary Matthews is so bad he actually takes things off the table.

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  56. BurleighGrimes says:

    As a New Yorker who watches a ridiculous amount of baseball, I can say that the Gary, Keith, & Ron trio really is as good as this ranking makes them out to be. Somehow, they manage to be fans without being obnoxious homers. This means that Gary may recall some random interesting tidbit about a Mets team from 1976–which is fun for fans–but they are (mostly) not averse to analyzing the team on the field for what they are, good or bad. Plus, they clearly know their baseball, including what’s going on with opposing teams. I remember one game a couple of years ago against the Phillies where Keith noticed immediately (like, in the first second of his first AB) that Chase Utley was doing something slightly differently mechanically — he was like, “that’s the kind of change you’d make if your hip was hurting” — and then an inning later the SNY video crew had found footage of Utley batting from the year before and put it side by side the then-current ABs, and Keith went through both mechanically. I’ve seen Ron do the same for opposing (as well as Mets) pitchers, breaking down things that even lifelong fans may not have noticed. And anyone who watches these guys know that they have major baseball man crushes on opposing players all the time (Gary Cohen LOVES him some Justin Upton). All of this means that even though we all know they’re rooting for their Metsies, they come across as fans of baseball first and foremost. Plus, Gary is an awesome play-by-play guy (though it’s true that he is averse to advanced stats); he really has a unique and exciting way with words.

    (A side note: I have heard Ron in the TBS booth and he’s not nearly as good there as he is with G&K. I think that there is something about the particular alchemy of these three together where they are actually talking about the games rather than resorting to meaningless platitudes.)

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  57. catswithbats says:

    I think Rod Allen is underrated. He makes some pretty good observations that go unnoticed because people are paying attention to the goofiness. I remember a particular moment from a game vs. Tampa where he apparently noticed a flaw in Longoria’s swing and completely broke it down. I was impressed. Then, he went on about the size of Brandon Inge’s calves for, like, ten minutes.

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    • pjs24 says:

      As a diehard Tigers fan, I think you’re dead on here. Rod can get silly as Carson noted, but he also has some great baseball-related stuff to say and he doesn’t eschew stats just because he played the game. I’ve come to really enjoy Rod and Mario after watching 162 a year for the last 5 years on MLB.tv living in Texas.

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  58. pjs24 says:

    Not gonna lie, I’m dumbfounded that Milwaukee’s crew rated so highly. Brian Anderson is absolute garbage, especially on TBS game of the week & playoffs. He consistently mispronounces names and just generally sucks. I can only assume the comment about how great Brian Anderson was sent in by Brian Anderson.

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  59. DodgersKingsoftheGalaxy says:

    I don’t think Vinny embraces advanced stats, nor should you expect him to, but everything else is a 5. It’s quite sad, i thought the Giants fans would have finally exorcised that grouch inside them after their flukey WS title but i guess i was wrong. There are more important things to complain about, like benching Brandon Belt or extending your bad GM.

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  60. dxclancy says:

    Giants fan. Love Kruk and Kuip, although that has grown from “just ok” over the years. The comment about that they “act like every decision made by the Giants is the right one” is pretty accurate.

    On the flip side, many is the time i’ve flipped it on in the middle of a big play and hear the announcers super excited, and then immediately have my stomach drop when i find out it is the visiting team that made a big play. (this happened at least 3 times last year when i flipped it on in the middle of a home run).

    The announcers are definitely homers, but they also enjoy good baseball by any team.

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  61. Tim says:

    The Phillies team at #26 is an outrage. They shouldn’t even be on the list. Tom McCarthy is quite possibly the most annoying human being that’s ever walked earth. Wheeler is a know-it-all that gets old fast. The amount of ‘gee-gollys’ and ‘aww shucks’ statements from those two will make you gag. Sarge may be the best part of that team and that’s saying something. Their radio team of Scott Franske and Larry Anderson is light years better than that TV team.

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    • Mike says:

      I agree with Tim. Tom McCarthy yelps like a schoolgirl for an opposing team home run in a Spring Training game as if the Phillies just won the World Series. Relax, dude. Watching and listening to a baseball game should be an enjoyable, calming experience, with glimpses of extreme excitement when your team does something incredible. What happened to the days when broadcasters could have a simple conversation about baseball while enjoying and speaking about the game at hand? Oh that’s right, those days still live on the radio with Franske and LA. McCarthy and Wheeler must go.

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  62. Steve says:

    Vin Scully was good 30 years ago. He is a joke now. Can’t get names right, tells the same dull stories over and over. He is living off his reputation from last century. Just plain unlistenable. #1? LMAO.

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  63. Jeff says:

    Two things,

    First, as a Tiger fan, I hate Rod Allen. He is hard to listen too and the fact that he can “get silly” is an understatement.

    Second, I love the fact the Hawk Harleson (or however its spelled) of the White Sox is so terrible they didn’t even make the top 30, when there are 30 teams.

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