Cardinals Continue Being Smart, Acquire Peter Bourjos

In the World Series, broadcasts from both TBS and Fox kept telling us how good of a center fielder Jon Jay was. In between plaudits, Jon Jay would inevitably get a poor jump, take a bad route, or just drop an easily catchable ball, sometimes all in the same game. It became something of a running joke, as Jay appeared to be a defensive disaster in the postseason, even while the networks kept insisting that he was terrific with the glove.

Well, the Cardinals clearly weren’t swayed by the rhetoric, and today, they’ve acquired Peter Bourjos from the Angels to be their new center fielder. And now TBS and Fox can properly say that the Cardinals have one of the best defensive center fielders on the planet, because Peter Bourjos is what Jon Jay was supposed to be.

Since 2010, here are the top 5 center fielders in UZR/150 among players who have spent at least 2,000 innings in center field.

Peter Bourjos, +20.2
Carlos Gomez, +18.2
Jacoby Ellsbury, +13.7
Michael Bourn, +9.9
Denard Span, +9.5

Defensive numbers have larger error bars than offensive numbers, but those error bars simply mean we’re asking if Bourjos is the best defensive outfielder in baseball or if he’s merely just very good. With a sample of 2,600 innings, you absolutely have to regress those numbers when projecting future defensive contributions, but even at a 50% regression, Bourjos would still rate as one of the very best defensive center fielders in baseball.

And given what we know about Bourjos’ skills — his speed, his baserunning, and the fact that the Angels pushed Mike Trout to left field because they preferred Bourjos in center — we shouldn’t regress Bourjos back towards a league average mean. We know enough about Bourjos-like players to know that these types of athletes are usually good defenders, and we shouldn’t be surprised that one of the fastest players in the game also rates as one of the most valuable in the field. You don’t want to count on Bourjos maintaining a +20 pace in CF, but a +10 projection isn’t crazy at all.

And when you field like Bourjos does, you can be a pretty terrific player even if you aren’t an amazing hitter. But unlike some other defensive specialists, Bourjos is not a total zero at the plate. For his career, he’s a .251/.306/.398 hitter while playing in a pitcher friendly ballpark, so that grades out to a 96 wRC+. And that’s just what he does at the plate. He’s also one of the game’s best baserunners, so for his career, Bourjos has actually been an above average offensive player, grading out at +4 runs over 1,136 plate appearances. Put him in the #8 spot in an NL line-up where he’ll get walked a decent amount in front of the pitcher, and he could even be more deadly, especially if he regularly steals his way into scoring position.

Add average offense to elite defense and baserunning and Bourjos grades out as a +3 to +4 WAR player over a full season, depending on how aggressive you are with his fielding projection. Steamer gives him a very conservative +5 defensive rating, and still sees him as a +3 WAR player, so it’s reasonable to call that something close to his floor. Well, his healthy floor anyway.

That’s the big rub with Bourjos: health. There’s a reason he’s only racked up 1,136 plate appearances over four seasons, despite being highly productive when on the field. He missed most of the 2013 season with a broken wrist, and it wasn’t the first time his wrists have given him problems. He’s also had some hamstring issues, and we’ve never seen his body hold up under the weight of a full season as a big league regular. To some degree, health is a skill, and it’s one Bourjos hasn’t yet shown, though at the same time, there’s not much reason to believe that Bourjos is fragile for having gotten beaned in the wrist by an errant fastball.

So the Cardinals will take a chance on Bourjos’ health for the chance to get a pretty terrific center fielder, and one that they control for the next three seasons. Bourjos is arbitration eligible for the first time this winter, and his lack of playing time should keep his price reasonable, so the Cardinals should have a productive player making basically peanuts for the next few seasons. This move also allows Jay to slide over to right field, replacing Carlos Beltran, until Oscar Taveras proves that he’s ready for regular action. While Jay is not a great center fielder, he should be a defensive asset in right field, and the Cardinals outfield defense will go from one of the worst in the game to one of the best.

To get Bourjos, the Cardinals sent Anaheim third baseman David Freese and reliever Fernando Salas. Salas is basically nothing, so this can be seen as essentially a Freese for Bourjos swap from the Cardinals perspective. And it’s hard not to love that exchange for St. Louis. Freese has value and is a decent buy-low candidate for the Angels, but his offensive performances have always been heavily driven by BABIP, and his defense went from okay to terrible last year. Even if you expect a nice rebound season, Freese still projects as an inferior player to Bourjos, he has one less year of team control, and will be more expensive in his final two seasons of arbitration. Oh, he’s also older, and not exactly the picture of durability himself.

It’s hard to see any area where Freese is better than Bourjos. This trade will be sold as speed-and-defense for power, but Bourjos actually has a higher career Isolated Slugging mark than Freese does. This is an average hitting elite defender for a slightly above average hitting meh defender, only the meh defender costs more and is closer to the end of his career.

Moves like this are why the Cardinals are one of the best run organizations in baseball. They get younger, cut costs, set up their team for the future, and get the better player in return. Oh, and they got the Angels to throw in a prospect, even if not a very good one, just for the fun of it. The Indians spent $48 million to buy this skillset in an aging Michael Bourn last winter, but the Cardinals figured out how to turn an aging third baseman coming off a bad year into a nearly free version of the same thing.

The Angels needed a third baseman, I guess, but they traded a good player for a worse player who costs more. Anaheim keeps spinning their wheels, while the Cardinals keep marching on towards sustained excellence. Some things really do stay the same.




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  1. JP says:

    Cardinals also get Angels second best prospect. Wow.

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    • t ball says:

      though that isn’t saying much when it comes to LAA.

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      • JP says:

        BA has him around 10th in the Cardinals system.

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      • RyanWKrol_LAAngelsInsider says:

        One thing fans seems to be forgetting is that the Cardinals have a better system and player development than the Angels, which means that a prospect like Grichuk can possibly gain much value simply by going from the Angels’ farm system to the Cardinals’ system. This is something to keep in mind when talking potential trades involving prospects with any team.

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    • stan says:

      Are we talking about Grichuk? That’s who I saw the extra player was in another article. I looked at his profile and it was pretty bad.

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    • Balthazar says:

      Huge win of a deal for the Cards. First in what they got, second in what they gave for it, third in how that realigns their 25-man roster, fourth in money saved. Smart teams get guys like Bourjos, back-fill the line up with the likes of Kolten Wong, and recycle the savings into dealing for stars as they did with Holliday back when he was available. Don’t be surprised if there’s another move coming, and the St. Lou’s held onto Taveras so farr too. Dumb teams . . . look a lot like the Halos with older, decling guys brought in deal after deal, huge contract hangovers, unbalanced pitching staffs, and empty farm systems.

      I’d have loved to see Bourjos in my org’s major league line-up, but the Cards paid a superior price to anything Seattle would have.

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  2. Shawn says:

    Seems like another move is coming for St. L, right? 2 spots for Craig/Adams/Taveras. Adams deal coming next?

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  3. Pirates Hurdles says:

    Cards also got a pretty decent prospect in Grichuk. Grr.

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  4. Justin says:

    Man I wish I wasn’t a Pirate fan so that I could fully enjoy how well run the Cardinals are.

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    • Robert says:

      Honestly, well run organizations almost always boils down to two groups: Ownership and Upper Management.

      To be more specific, its the owner and the GM.

      The owner must to supply the funds when the funds are necessary and must trust the GM’s judgment to make the right move.

      (aka. don’t be cheap, and don’t interfere with the GM)

      The GM must be smart enough to spend wisely to create and SUSTAIN their the success long-term.

      The Cardinals are one of those organizations that have both; a GM that’s willing to spend, and a guy that knows how to spend the money properly.

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      • RyanWKrol_LAAngelsInsider says:

        There is some luck involved in that too. The Angels got lucky with Mike Trout. The Rays got lucky with Longoria and Price. Having the right pick, and the right player available at the right time plays a big part in these stories.

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    • Pablo Sanchez says:

      They did pick a great pope.

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    • The Sweat of Chris Sabo says:

      That’s my relief now that my Astros are in the ALW — I don’t have to secretly appreciate the Cards. Pirates, too, recently.

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  5. wattts? says:

    Trout needs to get out of there; the Angels are pretty bad for their payroll and I fear this will keep him from ever winning an MVP.

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  6. Sleight of Hand Pro says:

    i just wanna say how much i appreciate your work, dave. i hear about the trade a few moments after it happened, i click on fangraphs bookmark, and BOOM, theres an article analyzing it. i usually take it for granted but just wanted to say thanks for being so dedicated and prompt with analysis of baseball news.

    i dont always agree with your analysis, but what you provide at fangraphs is topnotch nonetheless.

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  7. the hottest stove says:

    Jon Jay won’t slide over to right (unless you’re assuming matt adams is traded in a deal for a SS). Allen Craig will play right with Adams at first. The sheer thought of Craig in right field is all the more reason to make sure the center fielder can cover some ground!

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    • ralph says:

      Yeah, I think this pretty much kills Jon Jay’s playing time.

      The truly interesting situation to analyze is what will happen when Craig, Adams, Bourjos, and Taveras are all on the MLB team, or if the Cards will try to leverage one of those assets (and/or Jay) into a SS. Or maybe a 2B/3B depending on their Wong confidence; they’re pretty well set everywhere else.

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      • ralph says:

        Regarding Adams, I had been speculating that the Cards wanted to hold on to him because they knew the DH was coming very soon the NL, but now that’s sounding like it’s something at least 5 years down the road still.

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        • Andrew says:

          no one actually in baseball is thinking of bringing the DH to the NL. If the players union wasn’t involved, the AL owners would be more likely to get rid of the DH

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        • Cool Lester Smooth says:

          Why on Earth would the AL owners want to get rid of the DH? Do they like seeing pitchers get hurt running the bases?

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        • psualum says:

          Cool Lester – Its because a DH costs alot more than a bench player/extra reliever. AL payrolls are higher because of it. Pitchers don’t get hurt all that much running the bases its a mute point, their arms are all just ticking time bombs anyway.

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      • Xeifrank says:

        Holliday-Bourjos-Craig

        not equal to one of the best outfield defenses in baseball. Top half yes.

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      • Sabean Wannabe says:

        They have medication now if you are lacking confidence in your wong……

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    • Z S says:

      Jay or Adams seem like mid-2014 season trade bait. More likely Jay.

      Right now there’s a logjam at RF/1B: Craig and Adams at 1B, Craig, Jay and Taveras at RF. Taveras might be a late May call-up.

      Craig will play every day (unless he’s hurt), probably platooning at 1B with Adams (who has an awful split vs lefties). when Craig’s not playing RF, Jay will play. But it’s hard to see that situation lasting once Taveras comes up.

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      • Grant says:

        I doubt they would platoon Allen Craig. He has a career avg of over .300 against both lefties and righties. They might have him in RF, unless they feel is defense is bad enough to play him at first and put Taveras in RF with Adams on the bench.

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        • Matthew says:

          Make sure to read the comments carefully before you reply. He said he will play right and platoon at first which is what will happen. He will play right or slide in to first during games that are started by a leftie.

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    • stan says:

      The Cardinals fansite is saying that Bourjos is going to still be a 4th outfielder. That’s a lot more logical, IMO. The Cardinals would be crazy to count on Bourjos every day given his injury history. And.. Jon Jay to right? That’s just not going to happen. That would be the opposite of smart given that Jay’s best asset is that he can (debatably) play center field. If he’s not the primary CF, he’s a classic 4th outfielder. The Cardinala would turn to Pisciotty before they installed Jay as a right fielder.
      Also, there’s the fact that the Cardinals have a Kozma-like love affair with Jay and will do their best to find him playing time.

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      • Z S says:

        Nope. Bourjos is such an improvement on Jay, it’s not even close. CF will be his. And who do you like better in RF: Jay or Craig? (and soon, Taveras?) Jay will be the 4th OF, playing RF when Craig is playing 1B in his platoon with Matt Adams). until Taveras comes up.

        Shane Robinson, on the other hand…

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        • stan says:

          Who in their right minds would count on Bourjos every day? If you plan to have him in the playoffs you have to be very judicious with his playing time in the regular season. By the way, Shane Robinson was better than Jay in every way last year yet Jay played anyway…. See the pattern here?

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        • DH650Cards says:

          Yep you nailed it. Jay has proven to be a minus defender with his poor routes, noodle arm, and late jumps. Bourjos is a major improvement over Jay but I could see Jay playing RF until Taveras is ready. Jay still does have pretty good speed and would be a plus over Craig defensively, but Jay’s bat still is way too inconsistent. Robinson will be sent back to AAA and Jay will be 4th OF with Craig/Adams platooning at 1B. There is still a chance the club could move Adams with Lynn or Kelly for a strong SS but who knows at this point?

          Huge win for Mo and the Cards with this trade today.

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        • Erik says:

          Im not really sure where the ‘Bourjos is injury prone’ thing comes from exactly. Are all players who get hurt injury prone?

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      • ralph says:

        I had seen the 4th OF speculation. Hard to believe it’s true, but it would be interesting to see how the analysis of the trade proceeds under that assumption.

        I assume Bourjos would at least start in CF against LHP if it’s true. Or maybe (also) starting him when the Cards are throwing a relatively high FB% SP like Miller or Wacha that day.

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        • stan says:

          That’s what I think. Bourjos will play against lefties and against certain righties. He and Jay will make a pretty nice duo actually. In the playoffs Bourjos may play more.

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      • Damn my torpedo says:

        Yeah, no kidding

        In what world is a .310 wOBA “not a total zero at the plate”? This is not a CF for a top team. Bourjos is a very nice 4th outfielder though. Good work by STL getting him, although they better hope Freese isn’t healthy. If he is, the trade is ridiculously bad.

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        • Shauntell says:

          A .310 wOBA gives him a 96 wRC+, which is slightly below average so no, he’s not a total zero…

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      • RyanWKrol_LAAngelsInsider says:

        What injury history? He had freak injuries in 2013, and never had an injury problem before that. He’s simply the a victim of circumstance. Angels have a very deep OF anyways, so it was pretty much inevitable. I’ve been waiting for Bourjos to be traded for a couple years now. I’m actually surprised it took this long.

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    • Seneca says:

      Bourjos
      vRHP
      .249/.309/.394 95wRC+
      vLHP
      .256/.301/.405 97wRC+
      Jay
      vRHP
      .300/.360/.417 117wRC+
      vLHP
      .269/.343/.346
      Craig
      vRHP
      308/.366/.469 132wRC+
      vLHP
      .302/.336/.549 141wRC+
      Adams
      vRHP
      .290/.347/.500 138wRC+
      vLHP
      .208/.219/.375 61wRC+

      They will find a way to maximize their splits

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    • cardinalswsbound says:

      Plus, Jay doesn’t profile as a rightfielder with his noodle of an arm

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  8. J6takish says:

    Bourjos for Freese just felt like it was the most obvious trade that was going to take place this offseason

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  9. Andrew says:

    I don’t think Jay goes to right field–you’re forgetting that Adams/Craig/Taveras in future have to man 1B/RF. Jay is there to spell a breather for Holliday & Burjos.

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  10. Clayton says:

    I’ll always remember where I was during Game 6 of 2011. So thanks for that David. But otherwise, can’t be more excited about this move. It frees up our lineup by leaps and bounds.

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  11. Colby Rasmus says:

    ‘Sup, y’all.

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  12. Erik says:

    Back to back days for me criticizing Jerry DiPoto. I don’t care if his job is on the line, it’s moves like these that drive me up a wall.

    This is the worst move the team has made since the Vernon Wells trade.

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    • Erik says:

      It also recalls bad memories of the last time the Angels traded an injured center fielder to St. Louis to fill a hole on the infield…

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      • Los says:

        Without Adam Kennedy, do the Angels win the 2002 WS? He was pretty good that year…

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        • Erik says:

          Hard to say. That is the justification most fans have made to allow them to come to terms with that trade.

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        • Adam Kennedy says:

          Yeah. And don’t forget my triple tater game in the playoffs! Remember how it went? I’d already homered twice in the game, and Skip was asking me to sac bunt?! Hey, how about I go yard one more time instead, you smallball goofball.

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    • Jamie says:

      Hold on now, the Vernon Wells trade was great! They totally unloaded Vernon Wells on the Yankees. Foolish Yankees.

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      • Erik says:

        Oh ya that trade was reasonable. It was the earlier trade that was really bad. This trade kind of feels like Wells for Napoli & Rivera but without the huge money.

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      • Cool Lester Smooth says:

        The Yanks needed him for last April, and they can cut him without paying anything this year.

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  13. Dave from Pittsburgh says:

    This Cardinals outfield still has Matt Holliday in it, so no, it’s not one of the best.

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  14. attgig says:

    so, the Cards move Carpenter to 3b, and have Wong play at 2nd….
    Adams on 1b.
    Craig in Rf…
    Jay and Taveras where?

    Seems like they’ve created a larger logjam, even with Beltran leaving…

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    • Pirates Hurdles says:

      Jay on the bench as a nice LH option to spell the RH Bourjos, aging Holliday, and Craig in RF. Taveras in AAA (he only has 180 abs there) for 2 months or until Craig/Holliday get hurt or Adams flops as a starting 1B.

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    • pogotheostrich says:

      Depth is an advantage not a problem. Plenty of AB to go around. Cards didn’t have much of a bench when the playoffs came around.

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  15. Mike Green says:

    Dave hints at it, but the trade addresses a positional need for the Cardinals. They had a ready replacement for Freese, with Carpenter sliding to third and Wong taking over at second, while they needed an outfielder with Beltran departing.

    To achieve this while gaining a bit of extra value would have made Branch Rickey proud.

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  16. marlinswin12 says:

    The Cardinals also got a pretty good prospect in return. What are the Angels doing?

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  17. semperty says:

    Best trade in Mozeliak’s short career?

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  18. ummwut? says:

    “It’s hard to see any area where Freese is better than Bourjos.”

    Really? How about a career .356 OBP against .306?

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  19. Mozeliak couldn’t coax Aybar for Choate out of Dipoto? Lol I expect this added depth to help the Cards deal an OF plus Lynn for a SS.

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  20. Los says:

    As a Pirate fan, this sucks. I just don’t understand this at all from the Angels side.

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  21. ralph says:

    The other health factor for Bourjos is that hip was potentially needing surgery at one point, which isn’t ideal for his skill set.

    It is interesting to note that Bourjos was really hitting this past season (in a SSS of course) prior to his injury. His 2013 numbers look like they do in part because he was just absolutely horrible after trying to come back from a wrist injury, when in retrospect he probably shouldn’t have.

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    • ralph says:

      Here are the Bourjos numbers before/after his wrist injury in 2013:

      Before, in 147 PA: .333/.392/.457 (albeit with a .404 BABIP, though his speed and GB% should help keep the BABIP somewhat higher)

      After, in 49 PA: .109/.163/.152

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      • Cool Lester Smooth says:

        It’s not like he hits line drives, ever, so his BABIP really shouldn’t be that much higher than his career average of .309

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    • Erik says:

      Bourjos is a good hitter and his early season performance mimicked his performance in his one full season of play. When he came back from the wrist injury he clearly shouldn’t have been playing. He went virtually hitless at the plate until the Angels shut him down to get healthy.

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  22. Mat says:

    As an Angels fan, I have no words.

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    • Cool Lester Smooth says:

      How about “thank God we have a 3B”?

      I’ll take Calhoun in left, Trout in center, Hamilton in right and Freese at third over Trout in left, Bourjos in center, Hamilton in right and Callaspo at third every single time.

      The fact that this is a great trade for the Cardinals doesn’t change the fact that it’a good trade for the Angels.

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      • The last sentence was true.

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        • Cool Lester Smooth says:

          It’s really just not a fleecing, anymore than the Yanks got fleeced in the Grandy trade because Detroit benefited more.

          (The D-Backs did get fleeced, however).

          Each team gets better because of the trade, the Cardinals just improved a bit more than the Angels did.

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        • Dan says:

          If Dan Hudson doesn’t get hurt is it really a fleecing?

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        • Cool Lester Smooth says:

          Yes, because Dan Hudson wasn’t involved in the Granderson trade.

          The D-Backs got Edwin Jackson and Ian Kennedy for Max Scherzer.

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      • Bingo says:

        Why couldn’t they sign Napoli for 1B and play Trumbo at 3B? If Miggy can play 3B, anyone can..

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      • Smada says:

        First off, last year Callaspo WAR = .6 , Freese WAR = .3

        They should have gotten WAY more for Bourjos (actually they should have gotten even more, but a year ago) and it should have been a SP.

        If it were me, I’d move Trumbo instead of Bourjos for the SP. Then Jimenez/Green trade off to battle for playing time at 3B. Then they get to keep Howie and Aybar up the middle w/ Pujols at 1B and Calhoun, Hamilton and Pujols rotating DH w/ Howie playing 1B when Pujols is off the field.

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        • Cool Lester Smooth says:

          Yeah, one season with a bad UZR doesn’t change the fact that Freese is usually a competent fielder.

          Also, Jimenez sucks. As a 25 year old in the PCL last year he had a 13 point worse wRC+ than Freese did in what was by far the worst offensive season of his career; and then he was even worse in the majors after Callaspo was traded. Green, meanwhile, isn’t better defensively than Freese, and it’s hard to expect him to be better offensively.

          I think the issue is that teams look at Bourjos as an oft-injured CF who strikes out a lot and doesn’t walk very much; average at best offensively. He’s seen as who Carlos Gomez was offseason; no matter how much Angels fans somehow think that he should be valued like Carlos Gomez this year.

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  23. Jay says:

    With one move the Cardials went from one of baseball’s worst defensive teams to potentially one of the best, and almost certainly above average. Upgraded defense from below average to above average (or elite in Bourjos’ case) at CF, RF, 3B and 2B in one fell swoop.

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    • Tim says:

      I don’t see how they upgraded defense at 2B or RF. Carpenter was basically as good as Wong, and if you think Jay plays more than 10 games in RF, you are crazy lol

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      • Jay says:

        Wong projects as well above average defensively at 2B. The metrics had Carpenter around average but I think most people would have said he was a tiny bit below average there. As for RF, the Cards could do just about anything there and improve from Beltran’s defense, so some improvement was almost guaranteed. This move makes Jay in RF somewhat more likely, though I agree that he probably won’t be the primary guy there.

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  24. Sparkles Peterson says:

    Only problem with Jay to RF is that I don’t think he could throw the ball all the way to center so that Bourjos could try to get the runners cackling with glee as they take third.

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    • stan says:

      Playing Jay in right after this move would make as much sense as getting a new shortstop and playing Kozma at second. Jay (and Kozma’s) only asset is that they can play a certain defensive position. It would be ludicrous to play either at another position as a starter.

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      • CardsOnTheBat says:

        Has everyone forgotten Jay is near a .293 career hitter with .356 OBP? He’s streaky, and turns to crap in the playoffs, but he has value at the plate.

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        • stan says:

          That’s a good point. Both Freese and Jay were far better in 2012 than in 2013. Its not out of the question that both could rebound this year. I’m sure the Angels are pointing out to their fans that Freese earned his all star selection in 2012 in addition to being a solid starter in 2011.

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    • ceeza says:

      Allen Craig plays rf until Taveras is ready.. Then Matheny will have to work.. Taveras will have growing paing so Craig will have to spell him in rf all while deciding who plays 1b when taveras plays rf. cRaig really needs to play everyday that’s he’s healthy but Matt adams on the bench doesnt seem right as well.. it will be interesting. Jon jay will be getting shane robinson type of clock nect year if everyones healthy..

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  25. Jay says:

    1. Cardinals trade Kent Bottenfield for oft injured defensive whiz CF from Angels
    2. Get about a decade worth of HOF caliber play from Edmonds
    3. Trade Edmonds for Freese
    4. 2011 World Series
    5. Trade Freese for another oft injured defensive whiz CF from Angels
    6. The cycle repeats

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    • Otter says:

      Edited:
      1. Cardinals trade Kent Bottenfield & Adam Kennedy for oft injured defensive whiz CF from Angels
      2. Get about a decade worth of HOF caliber play from Edmonds
      3. Angels get six years and 15 WAR play from Kennedy
      4. Kennedy goes off in ’02 ALCS and Angels win World Series
      5. Trade Edmonds for Freese
      6. 2011 World Series
      7. Trade Freese for another oft injured defensive whiz CF from Angels
      8. The cycle repeats but
      9. 2024 World Series, Nelson Cruz Jr breaks hard and catches the ball, Cards lose World Series

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    • Troy says:

      that’s a cute narrative but not really accurate. bourjos so far has been worth a total +4.3 runs offensively in his career (~350 games). when the cards acquired edmonds, he had been worth +65.4 runs offensively (~700 games). edmonds was MUCH more than a “defensive whiz” – calling him that is actually kind of insulting. that was a straight up bad trade, this is a positional swap where the cards come out slightly ahead, pending bourjos’ health. (although it IS ironic edmonds was traded for freese)

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    • Cool Lester Smooth says:

      Call me crazy, but it seems a little reductive to call a CF with a .290/.359/.498 line a “defensive whiz.” Or to compare him to Bourjos.

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  26. ceeza says:

    Opening day outfield Holliday, Bourjos, Craig.. I like it.. The problem comes when after 2 months in Memphis Taveras finally becomes ready.. He has to play right because he is god awful in cf and he’ll never be a cf, ever.. Then we have the problem at 1b that the Rangers have at ss.. Craig or Adams.. You can’t keep Craig off the field.. His health is scary but Adams on the bench is dumb.. Does Adams get us our ss? Jay is now expendable as well.. as is Lynn.. Shelby too if we get something exceptional in return.. we’re not done moving but this move is great..

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    • pogotheostrich says:

      Why is Adams on the bench dumb? Craig is the better hitter. The trade market for Adams doesn’t seem very big. They tried trading him before the 2013 season. Plus I’m not sure he won’t be exposed with regular AB.

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      • yosoyfiesta says:

        Big Red has earned regular ABs – Taveras actually has the arm to play at any OF position, and he isn’t god awful in CF – are you a Cardinals fan? Maybe Ceeza, if you’d had Taveras you guys might have had a lions chance in hell of beating the Red Sox, but as a Sox fan, I was happy watching our mega prospect Xander Bogaerts get big hits against the red birds. Back to the point, Taveras absolutely could have handled CF for a while, some scouts even suggested that’s where he’d be (pretty sure after reading a sentence, that you’re not a scout, or at all intimately associated with baseball). Why would you trade Shelby Miller? He’s your best young pitcher who has already pitched like a high end #2 starter. Agree with Pogotheostrich on Adams; he’d hit for power still, but the average would drop with regular at-bats.

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        • ceeza says:

          Die Hard Cardinals fan and you have No idea what you are talking about.. Do you watch Memphis? if you think Jay takes bad routes wait until you see Taveras. Oscar playing cf was a pipe dream because it would have been the best for our organization but he will always be a corner Of and this is fact.. scouts agree and organization agrees.. No one wants to trade Shelby and Mo laughed at the JJ Hardy for shelby straight up deal but if the right deal comes along, *cough* straight up for Profar, he is expendable.. He’s not our best either.. Wacha and Martinez, who are untouchable trade wise, have better stuff but Shelby won 15 games.

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        • yosoyfiesta says:

          You think Wacha has better stuff than Shelby Miller? You can’t be serious; at least with CarMart there’s an argument, he mixes in elite velocity with nice movement, but Wacha is a RH Tony Cingrani. Aggressive angle of attack because of his height and a straight change. The Sox saw him once and the second time around the wrecked him. NL Central teams are going to do the same thing, Wacha is a #3 starter, maybe he has a #2 ceiling at best, but he isn’t better than Miller. Miller’s fastball is better and if he can refine that 3rd pitch he could be a top 10 pitcher in the NL for a long time, he has a higher ceiling than Wacha’s. Only thing Wacha has on Miller is playoff hype. Hard to watch Memphis in Boston dude. His routes need refinement, sure, but he’s athletic enough to handle center – further, the Cards just made it to the series with terrible OF defense. Going from Jay’s bat to Taveras bat is like going from Cuervo to Avion. None of this matters, because Bourjos is an 80 runner who can play great defense in CF.

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        • Ben Cerutti says:

          I saw Taveras play in Springfield 2 summers ago and he looked average to above average then…

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        • ceeza says:

          Ok this would be like me talking about Boston which I wouldn’t.. You sound silly.. Wacha > Shelby and it;s not up for debate.. Shelby pumps a plus fastball and has average control.. Doesn’t get easy outs.. Yea he’s a rookie but Going 5 was a struggle ALL year.. Wacha is just playoff hype? er umm kill yourself.. Wacha has plus fastball and already best change up on the staff.. Easy outs and goes deep consistently. Taveras is NOT a cf.. There is no learning curve.. He is awful in cf, period.. Gonna make Holliday a cf too? He’s just not a cf .. that’s it. He’s a masher not a fielder.. Bourjos will be Cf and Taveras will we Rf whenever he’s ready moving Craig back to 1b.. This will create the problem.. Craig’s gonna play everyday so Adams aka Big City, not Big Red(wtf)), will be power off the bench unless he’s shopped for our ss. the logjam is between rf and 1b.. jay or robinson will back up bourjos at cf.. maybe they’ll let taveras backup occasionally and fumble his way out there as well.. we have a lot of pieces to move to get our ss that’s for sure..

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        • theelyknosac says:

          I am a Cardinals fan and I tend to agree with the Sox fan… Wacha is great, don’t get me wrong, but you don’t trade Shelby. I wouldn’t have a problem trading Martinez because he is so tiny and such a violent delivery.

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        • ceeza says:

          i’d also like to state the obvious when you bring in Bourjos you are admitting Taveras can’t play CF.. Anyone of watches Memphis knows this but now you and Boston know as well..

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        • BMarkham says:

          @yosoyfiesta absolutely Wacha is the better pitcher than Miller for one obvious reason: his command. He isn’t a gimmick anymore than Wainwright is, he’s just is more effective at hitting the edge of the plate. I think Miller is great too but it is between Wacha and CMart at this point for future ace of the staff. Miller may have a MPH or two on Wacha, but he doesn’t have the command Wacha does. And Wacha is developing a third pitch as well.

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      • ceeza says:

        I’d only trade Shelby for Andrus or Profar.. And maybe and I mean just maybe for Tulo although i’m not a fan of his health, age and contract.. but for one of The Rangers ss’s I’d do it in a heartbeat.. and I wouldn’t think twice about it.

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  27. Mark Alphabet-Soup says:

    Hey, man.

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  28. Angelsjunky says:

    I’m so bummed about this. What a joke this franchise has become.

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  29. Matt says:

    I don’t think the Cardinals are done, with SS still needing an answer. As has been covered, its likely the Cards will have to part with some pitching to get a good MLB caliber SS. I don’t think you’ll get the guy you really want with Adams and/or Jay, though if it happens, more kudos to my 2nd favourite team.

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  30. cass says:

    The entire rest of the National League groans. Wish we could have shipped St. Louis off to the AL rather than Houston.

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    • MajorDeCoverly says:

      Wha?? Cass you cray.

      STL has loads more history in the NL, where they have been the most decorated team, since 1892! The Houston Colt .45s didn’t even enter the Big Leagues until the 1960s, when the Cards were already in their heyday.

      The NL is stuck with the redbird huSTLers, buck-o.

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  31. yosoyfiesta says:

    Taveras has the best bat in that organization, period. He may need a month in AAA to prove he’s back, but beyond that, keeping him in the minors would be an absolute mistake for an organization that does such a good job managing it’s team. Jon Jay is not a starting outfielder on a first division team with Holliday, Taveras, Bourjos and Craig, but he has value in a trade. It’s good to have depth, but shouldn’t they make a move for a middle infielder who can play and avoid these log jams at 1st and RF?

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    • Z S says:

      They will almost certainly make some sort of move for a real SS this offseason. As for depth, for better or worse (for worse), they have confidence in Descalso to backup 2B/3B/SS. For SS, they Greg Garcia might provide some depth if injuries take a toll on the big league squad.

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    • ceeza says:

      dude we’re not done.. this is an exceptional trade for us. we’ll get our ss too.. You think the front office doesn’t see the logjam? shelby, lance. Adams, kozma, and now jay are expendable.. some combination of 1 or a few of those players plus prospects will get us our ss..

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      • Red October says:

        Miller is NOT simply expendable. If he’s “expendable”, then who isn’t? Could they move him? Sure, but he’s not expendable.

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        • ceeza says:

          “expendable” meaning for the right price.. Wacha and Martinez are 100% off limits.. Miklas and Goold have written as much as well.. I think Shelby only would leave for Andrus or Profar and possibly Tulo who I don’t want.. but anyone else would be crazy.. But for Andrus or Profar Mozeliak would make that trade in a second and so would I.

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        • Cool Lester Smooth says:

          Wait, what? You’d actually rather trade Shelby Miller than Carlos Martinez?

          You nuts?

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        • Monkeyepoxy says:

          does shelby have a changeup yet?

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        • Larry says:

          I’m not a fan but the Cards seemingly have 8 guys who could crack the rotation next year. Building from strength I would say Miller is expendable if it upgrades the SS position, and will get much more in return than Lance Lynn would

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    • BranchRickey11937 says:

      I’m not a Card’s fan but….you cannot let a potential impact bat like Taveras be blocked….veryify that he’s healthy and then get him into the lineup….Adams or Craig has to be moved.

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  32. Matt says:

    Have to feel like if the Cardinals were going to get Aybar, they would have made it happen as a part of this trade.
    Given the market, I’m not sure where the Cardinals would trade for a SS. Think the most likely scenario would be signing Drew (if the price isn’t too steep), or maybe even bringing Furcal back for a year and hoping to sign a guy like Hardy (or Lowrie) next year to a shorter and less expensive deal without giving up a draft pick.

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  33. Larry says:

    I know that the Cardinals do not like to trade within their division,but if they would ,they could, trade Lance Lynn & pete Kozma to the Milwaukee Brewers for SS Jean Segura.He is a very good hitter and fielder and he does not cost a lot of money. Segura in little over half the season before he got hurt hit 12 homers / had 49RBI’s /BA of .294/ and stole 44 bases.

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  34. BJsworld says:

    Very sad Angels fan here. Bourjos is awesome. IF he stays healthy he could hit for nothing and still be more valuable than Freese.

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    • Cool Lester Smooth says:

      That’s not the way to look at it.

      Would you rather have Calhoun and Freese or Bourjos and Callaspo.

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      • Calhoun and Freese – 4.7 WAR (Multiply Calhoun’s by 3, assuming full time health)
        Bourjos and Callaspo – 4.7 WAR (Adding 1 WAR for full time health with Callaspo)
        You can play with the numbers too and assume that Calhoun and Callaspo will see less time because of health but in all honesty it seems that I wouldn’t care too much for having either combo over the other. You could probably platoon Calhoun though with another player and get good value. Just looking at that and Freese’s older age and Calhoun being the same age as Bourjos, I don’t see what’s to love from the Angels perspective. Trout can change things, but at the same time I just feel that looking at what you have to trade and what they got, was pointless. I would have kept Bourjos for more. If Freese bounces back strong, I’ll eat those words, but whatever.

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        • Cool Lester Smooth says:

          But Bourjos and Callaspo are never healthy.

          And, anyway, this year is a huge outlier for Freese. He’s never had this little power over a full season, and he’s never been anything less than competent defensively.

          I would expect a .280/.340/.430 line with mediocre defense from Freese next year before I would expect a .270/.310/.410 line with stellar defense from Bourjos.

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  35. Leo Walter says:

    Yeah,sure Larry. Bob Melvin would think,Whatever St. Louis needs,we will be happy to oblige. Do you really think that a GM in the same division is going to be as stupid as DiPoto?

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  36. PSopko says:

    As a Card follower, I believe Adams, with full-time ABs, shows he’s better than efficient against lefties. As to their post-season depth, they were ideal until Craig was hurt with the exception of ss & c.

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  37. Ryan Mann says:

    As an Angels fan, I’d rather have Bourjos for 3 years than Freese for 2 years. It does seem a bit inconsistent to give anecdotes yesterday about Kinsler/Victorino/Rollins/Rios/Winn/Michael Young having off-years and then posting some of their best offensive years in their early to mid 30s, and not mention that as a possibility with Freese. If he bounces back to 2012-Freese, this deal becomes more palatable.

    I agree that the odds are not in favor of that, but it’s a possibility mentioned by way of anecdote on this site just yesterday.

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    • Red October says:

      I agree with you. I’m a cards fan and wasn’t quite ready to give up on Freese. Especially with Wong not showing very well at the plate in his limited action.

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    • Cool Lester Smooth says:

      I agree in a vacuum, but DiPoto isn’t operating in a vacuum. He has a good, young outfielder to replace Bourjos in Calhoun. What he didn’t have was a 3B who can competently hold down the fort for the next couple of years.

      The dropoff from Bourjos to Calhoun isn’t anywhere near as large as the jump from Callaspo et al to Freese.

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  38. Ivdown says:

    Yeah, the Cardinals were smart to get this elite outfielder. Just like the Angels would have been crazy to trade him for that on his decline David Wright in 2011.

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    • I was one of those who thought the Angels should hold on that deal. I was wrong and man, David Wright is back. Hindsight only allows so much and at one time Bourjos was worth more, but you don’t trade someone because you got burned once before by it. It’s foolish.

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      • I should say, Bourjos was cheap and good. David Wright was good and more expensive.

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        • Ivdown says:

          That’s true, but it was foolish to believe that after having his worst season of his career that he wouldn’t (or couldn’t) rebound back to around his average stats. I always thought Bourjos was overrated, good, but overrated. I’m a fan of yesterday’s trade, because I think a good hitting (and he still can be good) 3B is a valuable thing.

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  39. rotobanter says:

    Only postive for angels is opening for Calhoun: http://rotobanter.com/2014-Kole-Calhoun

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  40. pft says:

    I wonder if the Angels are in on Ellsbury or Granderson now.

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    • Tim says:

      Yeah, that would make sense. No good 3B on the market, so trade from CF for one and sign a new CF. If you want to spend a bunch more money to upgrade it’s a good way to go about it.

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  41. Brian says:

    I’m a Cards fan and I like this deal for them, but I’m a little surprised at how one-sided the comments here seem to be, as if DiPoto got royally fleeced.

    Some people have mentioned this already, but there are plenty of things that concern me about this deal – including the state of Bourjos’ wrist, Freese’s lifetime .356 OBP vs. Bourjos’ .306, the fact that Freese’s lackluster 2013 is the outlier in his career whereas Bourjos’ superb 2011 is the outlier in his (an extreme outlier at that).

    Again, I like that the Cards gave up 2 years of a guy in his decline phase for 3 yrs of a cheaper guy still (presumably) in his prime at a premium defensive position. But is it crazy that I’m not ready to do a victory lap yet?

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    • MajorDeCoverly says:

      I’m with you Brian, in cautious optimism about this deal. It’s certain in any case that with the OF services of Holliday/Bourjos/Craig as the initial starting men, and a deep bench that could replace any OF position with Robinson/Jay/Taveras, there is no chance of any follow up offer to Beltran’s declination of the qualifying offer. Que te vayas con Dios, Carlos. Siempre te recordamos, amigo.

      Additionally, the value in this Freese/Bourjos trade heavily hinges on Wong’s performance, given that Carpenter would naturally slide over to 3B to replace Freese. We know Wong is a good defender, which is crucial in the middle infield, but will he be any better than Freese at the plate? Wong has speed around the bases as does Bourjos, but the Cardinals were not a base-stealing team last year. Seems we are giving up Freese’s power (albeit supposed, only 9 HRs last season) at 3B and replacing with another quick defender.

      I was kinda hoping that in shedding Freese, the Cards would try and pick up a power hitter. We weren’t a slugging team in 2013, and now that the last big missing piece of the lineup is at the SS position, it doesn’t look very likely we will be a slugging team in 2014, either. Holliday can swing for the fences, as can Craig and Adams, but those two will be mutually exclusive if Taveras enters the mix.

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    • So gay for homonyms says:

      I’m not sure why Bourjos’ 2011 season would be considered an outlier, much less an extreme one. Here are his wRC+ numbers for every pre-2011 pro level where he got at least 250 PA’s:

      2006 118
      2007 115
      2008 101
      2009 111
      2010 120

      That’s rookieball through AAA, age 19-23, with one (age-appropriate) year at each stop. So, in the minors, in every single season, his bat was average to distinctly above average. Then in his first full MLB season he posted a wRC+ of 114. Seems right in line with all his previous performances.

      Now I don’t know how much havoc his wrist/hip problems will cause going forward, but IF he settles into slightly-above-averageness as a hitter, I’d say we shouldn’t be a bit surprised.

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      • Brian says:

        I’d been thinking only of his MLB #’s: wRC+ of

        65
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        103

        His 2013 was better than I thought, and again, I wasn’t considering minor league totals. So you’re definitely right that 2011 was not an “extreme” outlier.

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    • Erik says:

      The only concern for the Cards should be Bourjos wrist. He was not the same player after that injury and the Angels shut him down to get it properly fixed. As posted earlier he was hitting .333 when he went down with that injury and he was proving that 2011 was not a fluke.

      The reason this deal still looks good for the Cards is because the general perception is that Bourjos can’t hit. His defensive value alone will make him a valuable player in 2014. Freeze on the other hand was worthless last year, suffering from back injuries and unlike Bourjos he doesn’t have that defensive value to fall back on.

      If both players come back healthy it’s reasonable to expect close to an even swap. I definitely like Bourjos chances of being healthy far more than Freese’s. The Angels are taking on the bigger risk here.

      The other reason it looks good for the Cards is because even if both players are healthy and play to their potential Bourjos is better.

      The last reason it looks good for the Cards is that Bourjos is cheaper and controlled for an additional year.

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  42. Nate G says:

    But Steamer says Jay is average defensively. Oh the steamer!

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  43. jwbrown77 says:

    Angels fan. Very disappointed. I knew Bourjos needed to be moved, but I was assuming it would be for arm(s).

    The only thing I can think of to try to justify this is the Angels had no faith in Bourjos’ health. That seems like a flimsy premise when he’s still young, and you’re trading for an older player with his own health problems.

    If you’re a Cards fan, you’re in for a treat if this guy is healthy. I saw mention that Holliday is a bad fielder. You’ll be blown away with how much Bourjos can cover for his corner outfielders if his legs are right.

    Why Jerry. Why…

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    • Cool Lester Smooth says:

      Or that they don’t have an MLB 3B right now, and aren’t going to have one any time soon, but they do have Kole Calhoun in the OF.

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  44. Gbake35 says:

    Mozeliak said earlier in the offseason he views Jay as more of a 4th OF

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  45. KB says:

    Seems like one of Jay or Adams will be in a deal for a SS later this offseason.

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  46. Allen Craig will likely play RF, not Jay. Adams will likely play 1B.

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    • ceeza says:

      Until taveras is ready.. Then what? No way Craigs sits EVER if he’s healthy but Adams needs volume at bats.. Matheny having to juggle a lineup terrifies me..

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  47. jdbolick says:

    This kind of “analysis” drives me crazy. Yes, we all agree that Bourjos is a substantial fielding upgrade over Jon Jay in center, but it gives me hives when people like Dave start throwing around fielding WAR as if it can be calculated with anywhere near the degree of certainty of hitting. In Bourjos we’re talking about a guy whose UZR was slightly negative over 415 innings in 2013. You can argue that UZR is flawed and didn’t properly measure his contribution, but that plays exactly into my point. Even while struggling last season, David Freese was more valuable offensively than Peter Bourjos. If he gets back to what he did in 2012/2011 then he’s dramatically more valuable offensively, where that value is much more accurately calculated.

    Jon Jay has a pretty strong split that would lend itself to a platoon with Bourjos, although it would work better if Peter had any such split himself. I find it somewhat hard to believe that the Cardinals would trade Freese for the short side of a platoon and defensive replacement, but that would appear to be the result. The notion of Jay playing regularly in right doesn’t fly, and thus the assertion that St. Louis will be “one of the best” outfield defenses looks pretty ridiculous. The Cardinals were dealing from a position of strength and it could easily end up a “win” for both sides, but with Trout theoretically covering Bourjos’ defensive value by moving to center then it’s easy to argue that the Angels improved more.

    I would marry FanGraphs and have its babies, but any Dave Cameron column invariably leaves me agape or aghast.

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    • Erik says:

      Trout is not near the caliber center fielder as Bourjos.

      We know to take defensive sample sizes with a grain of salt and I’m not surprised if Trout’s defense in left was robbing Peter of some of his potential value last year. Throughout Bourjos’ entire career the defensive numbers are great and he more than passes the eye test. I’m not sure what the point is of getting hung up on a third of a season sample size.

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      • jdbolick says:

        Did you miss the part where I noted that Bourjos had a negative UZR this past season? I put it in bold. His numbers weren’t elite during his most extensive playing time in 2011 either.

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        • Cool Lester Smooth says:

          Who cares about UZR, though. We know that Bourjos is an elite defensive CF, because we’ve seen him play CF.

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        • Erik says:

          I addressed the bold comment directly when I discussed the value of small sample sizes in UZR.

          You can take his last 400 or so innings in CF and say that he’s an average CF, and I’ll take his entire career plus watching just about every one of those innings and call easily one of the best outfielders in the game.

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        • jdbolick says:

          No, Erik, you said “Throughout Bourjos’ entire career the defensive numbers are great.” So either you ignored the bold notation about his negative UZR in 2013 or you saw and dishonestly pretended that it somehow didn’t preclude Borjous’ defensive numbers from being great every season. The fact is that they weren’t great in 2013. And as I noted, they were good but not elite in 2011 when he had his largest sample of playing time.

          You then proceeded to accuse me of calling Bourjos “an average CF” when I certainly never said anything of the sort and made it clear that he was “a substantial fielding upgrade over Jon Jay in center.” Don’t bother responding to my posts or anyone else’s if you can’t at least be honest.

          The point, which you apparently continue to miss, is that fielding metrics aren’t nearly as reliable as hitting metrics. Therefore Dave’s statements about how Freese “projects as an inferior player to Bourjos” and “it’s hard to see any area where Freese is better than Bourjos” were both extremely dubious.

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        • Erik says:

          Oh boy. You are tripping over semantics.

          I was clearly referring to Bourjos entire fielding career where he was well above average according to UZR. I will not argue with your contention that Bourjos has not been great in every single smaller sample size that you want to cut his career into. I will however argue that this does not mean anything. A .300 hitter is still a .300 hitter even if he hit .200 in July or had a season where he only hit .260…

          I will apologize if I offended you by inferring that you thought Bourjos was average defensively based on you discussion of his ‘slightly negative’ UZR in 2013 and his 2011 being ‘not elite.’ Yes you did call him a substantial upgrade over Jon Jay, but I have no idea how you rate his defense.

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    • Ivdown says:

      It’s about time that someone says something like this. I’ve always believed that offense is more important than defense, yet here it feels like defense gives players higher boosts than offense does. What this does is make average or above average players look like great players when most of the time, they just really aren’t.

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  48. mr.cumbersome says:

    jdbolick – GLB?

    anywho… If Bourjos only becomes a 4th OF, and Grichuk never makes it to the Show… odds are this is still a win for the Birds.

    The ceilings imply this is just about a lopsided trade as you will find.

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  49. Jeffrey says:

    One of the things lost in all of this.

    This means the cards really believe in Wong.

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    • jdbolick says:

      And Carpenter’s ability to play any non-shortstop position. It’s a significant gamble, especially since outfielders are easier to replace.

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      • semperty says:

        You’re aware that Carp is a natural 3B…right? They’re moving him back to his original position, not a new position

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        • jdbolick says:

          Sure, but playing third base regularly in the major leagues is a lot different than doing it in the minor leagues. Daniel Murphy came up as a third baseman too, but the Mets didn’t move him over when Wright got hurt. Carpenter’s bat also plays a lot better at second than third, then add in Wong being unproven (although I’m a fan) and I think calling the move “a significant gamble” is perfectly accurate.

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      • Jeffrey says:

        Carpenter is a third basemen. He was out of position last year.

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  50. ceeza says:

    My unexpert opinion.. Texas has no idea which ss to keep and we don’t care which one we get.. So they’re being scared and keeping both.. Texas is nuts if they’re serious about putting Profar at 2b next year.. Talk about stunting his growth.. How could anyone every question them if they got Shelby in return for one of them?

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  51. candomarty says:

    Grichuk is the hidden gem in this deal for the Cardinals. Like Freese and Bourjos, he also has had injury issues which mask his talents which were good enough to go in the first round of the draft. I’m betting on him to bloom in 2015.

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  52. duder says:

    so what is more sustainable, upper level BABIP or extreme UZR value? bourjos steamer projections only give him .3 of those 3.4 WAR from offense. the big enchilada of his WAR is CF defense, where his biggest asset according to FG fan scouting report is speed. my hunch is that freese’s BABIP values (and hence offensive RAR) stay a lot more stable for his years 30-33 than bourjos’s defensive ratings for his years 27-30.

    also how has no one referenced franklin gutierrez yet?

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  53. Eric H says:

    I also greatly enjoy Dave’s writing and overall dedication. One small critique I’d point out is your comment about Fernando Salas. Now, I know exactly what you meant by saying he’s “basically nothing” and I don’t dispute that, but the article may be more complete if you take even a sentence or two to simply elaborate on that (even if most readers know what you mean) so it doesn’t seem like you’re simply dismissing him for no reason. That’s all. Keep up the nice work.

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  54. cubpower says:

    Bourjos has the same skill set as Michael Bourn, and more power than David Freese. Earth to Dave, do you read me, over?

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  55. Victimize says:

    Tomorrows article should be titled:

    “Nevermind, the cardinals just gave Jhonny Peralta a multi yr deal for 15mill per”

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  56. Loop D says:

    Oscar Tavares=Wladimir Baletien. See you in 2019 in Hanshin.

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  57. Matt says:

    This deal opens the door for a mega trade with Tampa. Matt Adams and Shelby Miller to Tampa for David Price.

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