FanGraphs Audio: Dave Cameron Analyzes All Baseball

Episode 257
First, imagine FanGraphs managing editor Dave Cameron. Next, imagine all baseball. Now, imagine Dave Cameron analyzing all baseball. That’s precisely what follows in this episode of FanGraphs Audio.

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Audio after the jump. (Approximately 34 min. play time.)

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a problem?
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a problem?
3 years 7 months ago

The guest has a lot to say and seems to be just getting going but, by contrast, the host has few questions prepared and is openly disinterested in the event (the 2012 playoffs). Why not have Mr. Cistulli explain why he doesn’t like it or hand off the playoffs to a more enthusiastic host?

not at all
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not at all
3 years 7 months ago

when i first started listening to the podcast, my favorite episodes were the DC ones. however, now, they’re my least favorite and i often find myself skipping through them. DC, as the above commentator implies, often sounds robotish. this is unfortunate because these podcasts, dare i say podcasts in general, succeed when topic-related banter is organic and new or interesting info is provided. which is the second problem i have with the recent DC ones. if you’ve read his pieces during the week, you can telegraph the topics as well as his talking points. there is something familiar to this predictability and is worth something, but in terms of new information or commentary these appearances are largely low yield. the josh hamilton discussion from this week is a perfect example of this.

having said that, i agree with the above commentator that carson could improve in these episodes by endeavoring to sound more like a reporter and less like a friend. it’s clear that DC works best in a structured Q&A environment (compared to someone like Eno or Dayn who have the personalites to drive the topics….or boil people in oil). carson would do well to adjust his interview style to better work with DC.

having said that, DC might not be the best person to answer throwaway questions on AFL stuff, not because he’s not equipped to, but because there really needs to be a larger introduction to AFL. i think those questions assume a basic knowledge of AFL that many even keen observers of the sport might not have. i understand the natural inclination of FG is not to talk down to the reader or listener, but here I think we’d benefit from a larger AFL primer. moreover, i think FG is missing a real opportunity to cover AFL and i know i would love to hear Hulet (and others) on topics ranging from why AFL is important, how teams decide how to stock rosters, and which players they’re watching, etc etc. there is clear fantasy gain too from following AFL.

just my opinion.

Moonraker
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Moonraker
3 years 7 months ago

I’m outraged at Dave Cameron’s bias against 3 year olds!

Paul Z
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Paul Z
3 years 7 months ago

The Wild Card Game is a Playoff Game, not a Play-in Game or Tie Breaker. The Rangers and Braves did officially make the Playoffs.

RA Rowe
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RA Rowe
3 years 7 months ago

even though you are right, you’re wrong.

Soul
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Soul
3 years 7 months ago

What can’t you believe Carson? I must know!

yolo
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yolo
3 years 7 months ago

I think Carson is at his best when he can talk about meta issues. Take the Getting Blanked Podcast that he guested on — http://blogs.thescore.com/djf/2012/08/17/alright-its-the-getting-blanked-podcast-episode-64/#comment-179263 — if the host leads to a few awkward moments, the overall interview is still terrific. He’s able to talk critically about MLB as an entertainment industry (23 minutes in, interview begins around 21 minutes in), about Jessica Alba / internet smut in relationship to Melky Cabrera’s failed drug test (25 minutes in) or NERD and the “post team approach” (32 minutes in). In relationship to the comment by “not at all”, it’s clear that Carson is succeeding in creating ‘organic’, ‘new’ or ‘interesting’ discussion from “topic-related banter”.

As an aside, this is why for me the Perry podcasts can be interesting: they allow Carson freedom to talk in this way, for example about ancient roman philosophy, life as a married man or his own work as a poet. In effect, there’s always a feeling that anything, perhaps even the impossible, could happen. If Perry often ruins this feeling by screaming vulgarities, in most episodes Cistulli still finds a moment to do just what “not at all” was talking about: he surprises us, which is why I come back to them.

Dave on the other seems to me best at talking about the specifics. On specific player evaluations, trade ideas and roster management Cameron can go up against the best of them. Again, I agree with the above comment: Dave is not “the best person to answer throwaway questions on AFL stuff” but in talking about precise questions — rankings or minute differences in player or team statistics — he does great work.

My opinion is that Carson could do a better job of making Cameron feel welcome on these podcasts. As the host his job is to provide a structure and ask questions that allow the guest to shine. If the podcast is just Carson prompting Dave to recite his weeks work and making uncomfortable jokes, I’m not interested. If, on the other hand, Dave is able to go through the general topics of the day – especially those that he wouldn’t normally write about – and then is asked one or two surprising questions, I think this could be one of the better baseball podcasts.

not at all
Guest
not at all
3 years 7 months ago

i agree with you about carson’s hosting strengths, but, as you also suggested, his style doesn’t seem to work as well with DC as it does others. in that way, i hope my comment comes off less as a criticism about carson creating humorous or informative banter, and more as a disagreement over the style choice he is making in these specific episodes with DC. i hope that it comes accross that i enjoy these podcasts a great deal and likewise hope that the participants aren’t so set in their ways as to be uninterested in receiving feedback from the listener as they further develop their voice.

yolo
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yolo
3 years 7 months ago

Also, I’ve mentioned this elsewhere but Keith Law has talked about his interest in coming onto the podcast. Why not try a round table with him, Dave and a BP author for example?

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