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	<title>Comments on: 2009 MLB Trade Value: #45-#41</title>
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		<title>By: Joe S.</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/2009-mlb-trade-value-45-41/#comment-85691</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 13:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cubs and Astros probably won&#039;t have any on the list.  I think that Pujols is a great value, I think that he will extend his contract with the Cardinals for way below market. He never going to make as much as A-rod, Jeter, Tex, or Cabrera</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cubs and Astros probably won&#8217;t have any on the list.  I think that Pujols is a great value, I think that he will extend his contract with the Cardinals for way below market. He never going to make as much as A-rod, Jeter, Tex, or Cabrera</p>
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		<title>By: B</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/2009-mlb-trade-value-45-41/#comment-85376</link>
		<dc:creator>B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 15:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;re measuring who we think the most valuable assets in baseball are long-term.  It takes into account their future performance, contract, how long they&#039;re under team control.  Who would you rather have?  I think it&#039;s a fun exercise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re measuring who we think the most valuable assets in baseball are long-term.  It takes into account their future performance, contract, how long they&#8217;re under team control.  Who would you rather have?  I think it&#8217;s a fun exercise.</p>
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		<title>By: B</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/2009-mlb-trade-value-45-41/#comment-85364</link>
		<dc:creator>B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 15:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ryan Howard is a hitter.  Lincecum is a pitcher (Obvious, I know).  The precedent set before each of them is very different, as no pitchers have ever gotten nearly that much.  Howard also won his arbitration case (which, given the average of the two offers, added $1.5M to his contract), we don&#039;t know if that will be the case for Lincecum.

Hamels is a much better comparison, because Hamels got the most money for a first time arbitration eligible pitcher ever (Phillies signed him to a contract rather than going through arbitration).  As I stated before, he&#039;s only scheduled to make $4.35M in his first arbitration eligible year.  Lincecum will have a hard time making the case he deserves more than double what Hamels got.  I don&#039;t see Lincecum breaking 8 figures, though $8M wouldn&#039;t shock me, I guess...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan Howard is a hitter.  Lincecum is a pitcher (Obvious, I know).  The precedent set before each of them is very different, as no pitchers have ever gotten nearly that much.  Howard also won his arbitration case (which, given the average of the two offers, added $1.5M to his contract), we don&#8217;t know if that will be the case for Lincecum.</p>
<p>Hamels is a much better comparison, because Hamels got the most money for a first time arbitration eligible pitcher ever (Phillies signed him to a contract rather than going through arbitration).  As I stated before, he&#8217;s only scheduled to make $4.35M in his first arbitration eligible year.  Lincecum will have a hard time making the case he deserves more than double what Hamels got.  I don&#8217;t see Lincecum breaking 8 figures, though $8M wouldn&#8217;t shock me, I guess&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ebc</title>
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		<dc:creator>ebc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ryan Howard got $10 million in arbitration. I doubt the Giants will even offer less than $10 million; lord knows what Lincecum will demand, since he stands a pretty good chance of entering arbitration with back-to-back Cy Youngs under his belt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan Howard got $10 million in arbitration. I doubt the Giants will even offer less than $10 million; lord knows what Lincecum will demand, since he stands a pretty good chance of entering arbitration with back-to-back Cy Youngs under his belt.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 07:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>5. Todd Helton?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>5. Todd Helton?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/2009-mlb-trade-value-45-41/#comment-85305</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 05:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is basically the baseball version of the exercise Bill Simmons does every year with the NBA.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/090212</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is basically the baseball version of the exercise Bill Simmons does every year with the NBA.</p>
<p><a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/090212" rel="nofollow">http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/090212</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 05:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The question is not whether the Sox would give up Beckett but who has what the Sox want and is willing to TAKE Beckett. Like my man says, dude is 29 and will get expensive very quickly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The question is not whether the Sox would give up Beckett but who has what the Sox want and is willing to TAKE Beckett. Like my man says, dude is 29 and will get expensive very quickly.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 05:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So I guess you don&#039;t see this as a redundant way of saying who the best players in baseball are by some arbitrary set of standards.

What I&#039;m trying to say is that the top 3 people on this list are probably the top 3 people on a number of other lists.  Therefore, what are we really measuring?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I guess you don&#8217;t see this as a redundant way of saying who the best players in baseball are by some arbitrary set of standards.</p>
<p>What I&#8217;m trying to say is that the top 3 people on this list are probably the top 3 people on a number of other lists.  Therefore, what are we really measuring?</p>
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		<title>By: cecil</title>
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		<dc:creator>cecil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 03:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so, since 2007 fielder has had a war of 11.2 to gonzalez&#039;s 9.6 and he&#039;s two years younger?

i&#039;ll give the edge in body type, contract and home park to gonzo, but given prince&#039;s upside and age advantage i can&#039;t see how he&#039;s lower. especially since the list seems to pretty heavily factoring in upside with the inclusion of guys like joba and heyward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so, since 2007 fielder has had a war of 11.2 to gonzalez&#8217;s 9.6 and he&#8217;s two years younger?</p>
<p>i&#8217;ll give the edge in body type, contract and home park to gonzo, but given prince&#8217;s upside and age advantage i can&#8217;t see how he&#8217;s lower. especially since the list seems to pretty heavily factoring in upside with the inclusion of guys like joba and heyward.</p>
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		<title>By: Sky</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/2009-mlb-trade-value-45-41/#comment-85253</link>
		<dc:creator>Sky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 23:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Based on my comment in a later thread, I take back this comment about Adrian.  It&#039;s still &quot;only&quot; 2.5 years, but he&#039;s really damn good and really damn cheap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Based on my comment in a later thread, I take back this comment about Adrian.  It&#8217;s still &#8220;only&#8221; 2.5 years, but he&#8217;s really damn good and really damn cheap.</p>
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