Comments on: 2009 Prospect Duds: Dayan Viciedo

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By: Steve @ MLBFP

Steve @ MLBFP — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 17:03:00 +0000

Marc: Count me as one of the guys who got sucked into drafting this guy in my dynasty league. I was hoping he was Alexei Ramirez all over again. Nice analysis. I’m linking to it from my blog today: http://www.mlbfantasyprospects.com/2009/09/touch-em-all-statistics-strategies-and-one-major-disappointment.html

ballfan77: I’ve been wondering the same thing. But even if he’s 23, he still has time to develop.

By: neuter_your_dogma

neuter_your_dogma — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 14:39:54 +0000

Anyone here know anything about Phillie prospect Domingo Santana? I’ve read that at 16, he is 6′5″ 200 lbs. and hit 288 .388 .508 in 139 PAs in the GCL this year. Is this kid really 16? If so, is he a monster in the making?

By: ballfan77

ballfan77 — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 05:09:43 +0000

People keep saying he’s 20, but he’s from Cuba a place notorious for producing players who lie about their age. I’ll bet he’s closer to 23 then 20 if he’s a typical Cuban player.

By: Tom

Tom — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 18:55:22 +0000

But he’s playing at a high level at a very young age. Maybe it’s your expectations that were too high. A lot of prospects are rated high due to their age.

The kid moved from an entirely different culture at 19 years old, away from everything he’s ever known. Cuban players are not like your typical Latin players as they’re cut off from their families and lives back home as soon as they leave. I would like to see you do this let alone play baseball at a high level.

All things considered, he showed a lot of improvement in the second half. I expect that to continue next year.

By: Marc

Marc — Sun, 20 Sep 2009 18:59:25 +0000

I don’t see the contradiction… the quoted part is from pre-2009. The rest of the artcile was just written.

Yes, he’s young but the CWS organization pumped the youngster up and even talked about him (at least the media did) making the team out of the spring… so for him to play less-than-stellar (especially in power, which was supposed to be a strength) than, yes, was a dud. The dud is based on expectation… If he had come in ranked 23rd on the White Sox list, then no he would not have been a dud in 2009. But it was a dud year for a No. 2 prospect.

By: Nick

Nick — Sun, 20 Sep 2009 12:49:35 +0000

“The sky remains the limit for Viciedo, but his takeoff was more than a little bumpy. ”

And why is it that because he sucked, any assessment is null and void, but if he raked, you’d be penciling him in as the next Miggy (which you probably should)?

By: Nick

Nick — Sun, 20 Sep 2009 12:47:11 +0000

“A 20 year old hits .280 in AA and he’s a prospect dud. Brilliant.

BTW in the second half of the season… .313/.350/.464/.814″

Yes I would very encouraged by that soft, BABIP inflated yet still mediocre OPS. Cool batting average though.

The fact that they started him AA told you they thought he was advanced, and clearly he wasn’t, which is another reason he should be labeled a dud.

By: Keith

Keith — Sun, 20 Sep 2009 04:58:55 +0000

I’d also add that Birmingham isn’t a particularly good place to hit. I seem to recall reading somewhere that the league average OPS neutralized for Birmingham was right around .725.

The defensive concerns are pretty legit, unfortunately — he’s going to have to hit like a 1B/DH to be a valuable player.

By: Anthony JP

Anthony JP — Sat, 19 Sep 2009 16:59:33 +0000

I don’t agree with the “dud” statement either, because I think it’s way too early to be writing him off. But I think the point he’s trying get across is that perhaps he was overhyped a bit. Though he still is very young and has a long way to go, almost all assments made off of his first season should be null and void.