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		<title>By: MPC</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/alcs-coverage-the-decision/#comment-103315</link>
		<dc:creator>MPC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 20:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He said what stat-geeks are ACCUSED of doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He said what stat-geeks are ACCUSED of doing.</p>
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		<title>By: MPC</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/alcs-coverage-the-decision/#comment-103313</link>
		<dc:creator>MPC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 20:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha, Industrial Engineering isn&#039;t a hard major. It&#039;s not even close to the level of civil/electrical/chemical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha, Industrial Engineering isn&#8217;t a hard major. It&#8217;s not even close to the level of civil/electrical/chemical.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Moore</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/alcs-coverage-the-decision/#comment-103210</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was thinking about this as well, as I thought Gardner might&#039;ve actually been able to catch that ball Mathis hit last night (Hairston was damn close.)  Hairston has a comparable UZR/150 career and recently, though, and playing splits makes sense there. 

Still, I&#039;m not completely sold on the move.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was thinking about this as well, as I thought Gardner might&#8217;ve actually been able to catch that ball Mathis hit last night (Hairston was damn close.)  Hairston has a comparable UZR/150 career and recently, though, and playing splits makes sense there. </p>
<p>Still, I&#8217;m not completely sold on the move.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin S.</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/alcs-coverage-the-decision/#comment-103205</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Weird, considering you&#039;re commenting on an article written by a numbers-obsessed web-geek (and I mean that in the nicest way possible, DC) that absolutely killed him for his decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weird, considering you&#8217;re commenting on an article written by a numbers-obsessed web-geek (and I mean that in the nicest way possible, DC) that absolutely killed him for his decision.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin S.</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/alcs-coverage-the-decision/#comment-103203</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The issue isn&#039;t Girardi&#039;s brightness - the man has an BS in Industrial Engineering from Northwestern.  Perhaps he doesn&#039;t understand how to properly apply his statistical database, but he&#039;s not stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The issue isn&#8217;t Girardi&#8217;s brightness &#8211; the man has an BS in Industrial Engineering from Northwestern.  Perhaps he doesn&#8217;t understand how to properly apply his statistical database, but he&#8217;s not stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: Colm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes.

This looks like Girardi doing what numbers-obsessed web-geeks are always accused of: placing TOO MUCH faith in statistics, and ignoring his own eyes.  Although, as many have pointed out, whatever stat&#039;s Joe G was looking out weren&#039;t significant enough to warrant pulling a pitcher 2/3 of the way through an inning after he&#039;d recorded two quick outs. 

There&#039;s very very little advantage to be gained by switching Robertson for Aceves in that situation.  If the roles had been reversed the same would still be true.  But there&#039;s value to be lost, in an extra inning game, in burning one more pitcher from your bullpen, and throwing another pitcher into the game cold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes.</p>
<p>This looks like Girardi doing what numbers-obsessed web-geeks are always accused of: placing TOO MUCH faith in statistics, and ignoring his own eyes.  Although, as many have pointed out, whatever stat&#8217;s Joe G was looking out weren&#8217;t significant enough to warrant pulling a pitcher 2/3 of the way through an inning after he&#8217;d recorded two quick outs. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s very very little advantage to be gained by switching Robertson for Aceves in that situation.  If the roles had been reversed the same would still be true.  But there&#8217;s value to be lost, in an extra inning game, in burning one more pitcher from your bullpen, and throwing another pitcher into the game cold.</p>
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		<title>By: Wally</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/alcs-coverage-the-decision/#comment-103200</link>
		<dc:creator>Wally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 23:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It was a desperation move, who cares if the pitcher is going to come up later if the game is about to end and having Damon’s arm out there increases that chance.&quot;

Exactly, &quot;IF the game is about to end.&quot;  The game didn&#039;t end and Damon&#039;s arm figures to be a very small factor in if that game ends.  Regardless of arm strength, very few outfielders gun down runners at home on possible sac flies, and any hit wins the game anyway.  Then in the next inning frame one of your batters is as close to an automatic out as you&#039;ll see (except for pitchers of course) AND you can no longer bring out your best relief pitcher for a second inning.  It was one tiny improvement at the cost of a larger future disadvantage.  It was stupid.

&quot;Is he over managing? Probably. Is it what cost his team? Not on paper.&quot;

Well yeah, on paper his choices haven&#039;t added up to costing his team a full win, but that&#039;s pretty much impossible over a 7 game series (unless you do something horrific like not play A-rod, Tex and CC or something).  But these moves have reduced his team&#039;s chances of winning.  Given the probabalistic nature of baseball, one of these choices may just have been the difference.  Maybe Matsui hits a HR in his next AB, or Damon gets on and Tex hits a HR in the 11th.  No one can say.  But taking your best hitters and pitchers out of the game for tiny momentary advantages is dumb.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It was a desperation move, who cares if the pitcher is going to come up later if the game is about to end and having Damon’s arm out there increases that chance.&#8221;</p>
<p>Exactly, &#8220;IF the game is about to end.&#8221;  The game didn&#8217;t end and Damon&#8217;s arm figures to be a very small factor in if that game ends.  Regardless of arm strength, very few outfielders gun down runners at home on possible sac flies, and any hit wins the game anyway.  Then in the next inning frame one of your batters is as close to an automatic out as you&#8217;ll see (except for pitchers of course) AND you can no longer bring out your best relief pitcher for a second inning.  It was one tiny improvement at the cost of a larger future disadvantage.  It was stupid.</p>
<p>&#8220;Is he over managing? Probably. Is it what cost his team? Not on paper.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well yeah, on paper his choices haven&#8217;t added up to costing his team a full win, but that&#8217;s pretty much impossible over a 7 game series (unless you do something horrific like not play A-rod, Tex and CC or something).  But these moves have reduced his team&#8217;s chances of winning.  Given the probabalistic nature of baseball, one of these choices may just have been the difference.  Maybe Matsui hits a HR in his next AB, or Damon gets on and Tex hits a HR in the 11th.  No one can say.  But taking your best hitters and pitchers out of the game for tiny momentary advantages is dumb.</p>
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		<title>By: Seideberg</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/alcs-coverage-the-decision/#comment-103196</link>
		<dc:creator>Seideberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 23:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that I&#039;ve had the day to stew upon this, I have sort of changed my tune about it.

I am still annoyed that the Yankees blew a winnable game with a move that I still view as inexplicable.  With that said, the move was clearly driven by some sort of sabermetric principle that Girardi referenced vaguely.  Clearly Girardi is not bright enough to come up with this idea on his own, or to make the infamous &quot;binder,&quot; so that must mean there is someone in the Yankees organization with enough clout to tell the manager what to do, who is pushing this agenda.  While Girardi may not know which are the important stats to use, or when to use them, the idea that the Yankees might actually adopt some statistical analysis in their operations thrills me.

Also, I&#039;m pretty sure that Joe Morgan hated the move (I&#039;m heading over to ESPN to read his chat from today, with quite a bit of excitement), so that&#039;ll help me sleep tonight...Unless, of course, he pinch hits for A-Rod tonight because his binder tells him that Freddy Guzman has a better batting average in the 6th inning in a road game on a Tuesday during a waxing moon in an even-numbered month and .....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that I&#8217;ve had the day to stew upon this, I have sort of changed my tune about it.</p>
<p>I am still annoyed that the Yankees blew a winnable game with a move that I still view as inexplicable.  With that said, the move was clearly driven by some sort of sabermetric principle that Girardi referenced vaguely.  Clearly Girardi is not bright enough to come up with this idea on his own, or to make the infamous &#8220;binder,&#8221; so that must mean there is someone in the Yankees organization with enough clout to tell the manager what to do, who is pushing this agenda.  While Girardi may not know which are the important stats to use, or when to use them, the idea that the Yankees might actually adopt some statistical analysis in their operations thrills me.</p>
<p>Also, I&#8217;m pretty sure that Joe Morgan hated the move (I&#8217;m heading over to ESPN to read his chat from today, with quite a bit of excitement), so that&#8217;ll help me sleep tonight&#8230;Unless, of course, he pinch hits for A-Rod tonight because his binder tells him that Freddy Guzman has a better batting average in the 6th inning in a road game on a Tuesday during a waxing moon in an even-numbered month and &#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: walkoffblast</title>
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		<dc:creator>walkoffblast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 23:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish you would quit harping on the DH thing. There was one out and the bases were loaded when he made the move. It was a desperation move, who cares if the pitcher is going to come up later if the game is about to end and having Damon&#039;s arm out there increases that chance. Was it really worth it or necessary? Who knows? Was it inexcusable? Hardly.  Same thing applies to the relief pitching move in question. 

Is he over managing? Probably. Is it what cost his team? Not on paper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish you would quit harping on the DH thing. There was one out and the bases were loaded when he made the move. It was a desperation move, who cares if the pitcher is going to come up later if the game is about to end and having Damon&#8217;s arm out there increases that chance. Was it really worth it or necessary? Who knows? Was it inexcusable? Hardly.  Same thing applies to the relief pitching move in question. </p>
<p>Is he over managing? Probably. Is it what cost his team? Not on paper.</p>
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		<title>By: Wally</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/alcs-coverage-the-decision/#comment-103169</link>
		<dc:creator>Wally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt, I wouldn&#039;t say Girardi lost this game for the Yankees, and of course more fault is always going to be on the players, because they are the guys that actually play.  However, Girardi made some stupid choices that hurt his team&#039;s chances of winning.  There is no excuse for stupid things like losing the DH.  Especially in a playoff game that is tied.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt, I wouldn&#8217;t say Girardi lost this game for the Yankees, and of course more fault is always going to be on the players, because they are the guys that actually play.  However, Girardi made some stupid choices that hurt his team&#8217;s chances of winning.  There is no excuse for stupid things like losing the DH.  Especially in a playoff game that is tied.</p>
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