Comments on: Bastardo Debuts http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/bastardo-debuts/ Daily baseball statistical analysis and commentary Sun, 12 Feb 2012 10:52:49 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Brian http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/bastardo-debuts/#comment-79582 Brian Sat, 06 Jun 2009 13:12:08 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=5260#comment-79582 Excellent use of resources, but...... Wow. Before a post like this, some research is in order. Dave basically discredited an impressive debut without taking into account any outside factors or learning a little bit more about Bastardo's repertoire before personally buying the kid a ticket back to Lehigh Valley. Excellent use of resources, but…… Wow. Before a post like this, some research is in order. Dave basically discredited an impressive debut without taking into account any outside factors or learning a little bit more about Bastardo’s repertoire before personally buying the kid a ticket back to Lehigh Valley.

]]> By: Pete http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/bastardo-debuts/#comment-79331 Pete Thu, 04 Jun 2009 19:52:02 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=5260#comment-79331 watched the game live, and while your analysis is great, a couple things of note... - They weren't coming anywhere close on his fastball, and he had a big lead, so Ruiz kept putting one finger down. - It was very clear in the first 3 innings that he was overly jazzed up for his first start (wild, overthrowing, hitting 95mph for some reason), but he calmed down in the 4,5,6 frames, showing much better location. - Charlie Manuel said after the game that he was "gripping his off-speed pitches too tight" due to his adrenaline, so the ones he did throw weren't all that great, and Ruiz didn't have to call them, so he didn't. - His change-up is his best pitch, but he only threw like 3 all night, and none were very good. Hopefully he will be calmer his next start, and we can actually see it. Promising start.... I'm not sure what to expect long term, but I know Phillies fans are pretty excited about him. watched the game live, and while your analysis is great, a couple things of note…

- They weren’t coming anywhere close on his fastball, and he had a big lead, so Ruiz kept putting one finger down.

- It was very clear in the first 3 innings that he was overly jazzed up for his first start (wild, overthrowing, hitting 95mph for some reason), but he calmed down in the 4,5,6 frames, showing much better location.

- Charlie Manuel said after the game that he was “gripping his off-speed pitches too tight” due to his adrenaline, so the ones he did throw weren’t all that great, and Ruiz didn’t have to call them, so he didn’t.

- His change-up is his best pitch, but he only threw like 3 all night, and none were very good. Hopefully he will be calmer his next start, and we can actually see it.

Promising start…. I’m not sure what to expect long term, but I know Phillies fans are pretty excited about him.

]]> By: yuckiestdrip http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/bastardo-debuts/#comment-79310 yuckiestdrip Thu, 04 Jun 2009 18:06:32 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=5260#comment-79310 His next start is scheduled to be against the Dodgers on Sunday. I believe that's also an ESPN game so we will get to see some more of him. His next start is scheduled to be against the Dodgers on Sunday. I believe that’s also an ESPN game so we will get to see some more of him.

]]> By: nrmax88 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/bastardo-debuts/#comment-79096 nrmax88 Wed, 03 Jun 2009 20:27:23 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=5260#comment-79096 yeah, the grission thing always cracks me up. Bastardo looks good, but I want to see how he handles a right handed heavy lineup like the Mets who have been teeing off on LHP for a couple years now. Nice debut, and I hate to call it a low pressure situation, because honestly no situation is low pressure for a kid debuting in the majors, but facing SD in SD and getting spotted 4 runs before crossing the white lines is a pretty nice way to start your career. yeah, the grission thing always cracks me up. Bastardo looks good, but I want to see how he handles a right handed heavy lineup like the Mets who have been teeing off on LHP for a couple years now. Nice debut, and I hate to call it a low pressure situation, because honestly no situation is low pressure for a kid debuting in the majors, but facing SD in SD and getting spotted 4 runs before crossing the white lines is a pretty nice way to start your career.

]]> By: MPC http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/bastardo-debuts/#comment-79082 MPC Wed, 03 Jun 2009 19:33:33 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=5260#comment-79082 Love the name. Amazin' Avenue reader? Love the name. Amazin’ Avenue reader?

]]> By: Marquis Grission http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/bastardo-debuts/#comment-79075 Marquis Grission Wed, 03 Jun 2009 18:52:59 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=5260#comment-79075 Interesting stuff. I agree that Bastardo was probably trying to keep it simple in his debut, which was exacerbated by the fact that he had a big lead early. Also, Bastardo was tremendous in the minor leagues (career 1.17 WHIP, 6.7 H/9, 10.1 K/9). I'm sure Phillies fans are just as excited to see him as Mets fans like myself are worried. Interesting stuff. I agree that Bastardo was probably trying to keep it simple in his debut, which was exacerbated by the fact that he had a big lead early.

Also, Bastardo was tremendous in the minor leagues (career 1.17 WHIP, 6.7 H/9, 10.1 K/9). I’m sure Phillies fans are just as excited to see him as Mets fans like myself are worried.

]]> By: AB http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/bastardo-debuts/#comment-79071 AB Wed, 03 Jun 2009 18:39:59 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=5260#comment-79071 He did throw at least 3 changeups last night. Mid 80's pitches with pitchFx of over 10" I would like the article a lot more if you had at least mentioned that he was staked to a 4-0 lead in the first which was extended to 8-0, and that catcher Carlos Ruiz was probably well aware of SD's terrible struggles against LHP while he called the game He does have a good slider from his minor league starts that I've seen. I don't really know about his change and there have been mixed reports (from developing to plus) I think the concerns are valid, pitching aggressively up with a straight fastball, but I think he has more in terms of secondary pitches than he showed He did throw at least 3 changeups last night. Mid 80′s pitches with pitchFx of over 10″

I would like the article a lot more if you had at least mentioned that he was staked to a 4-0 lead in the first which was extended to 8-0, and that catcher Carlos Ruiz was probably well aware of SD’s terrible struggles against LHP while he called the game

He does have a good slider from his minor league starts that I’ve seen. I don’t really know about his change and there have been mixed reports (from developing to plus)

I think the concerns are valid, pitching aggressively up with a straight fastball, but I think he has more in terms of secondary pitches than he showed

]]> By: B http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/bastardo-debuts/#comment-79067 B Wed, 03 Jun 2009 18:19:03 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=5260#comment-79067 He threw a couple change ups that were listed as fast balls. Only 3 or 4 though. He had tons of movement on the change up. They were destroying the Padres, it was practically 6 Innings of mop up ball so there isn't much to look into. Plus his debut, so I imagine they wanted to keep it simple for him. He seemed to get a lot of movement on his fastball, and guys really struggled to square it up and get good wood on the ball. He threw a couple change ups that were listed as fast balls. Only 3 or 4 though. He had tons of movement on the change up.

They were destroying the Padres, it was practically 6 Innings of mop up ball so there isn’t much to look into. Plus his debut, so I imagine they wanted to keep it simple for him.

He seemed to get a lot of movement on his fastball, and guys really struggled to square it up and get good wood on the ball.

]]> By: Doc | ballssticksstuff.com http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/bastardo-debuts/#comment-79055 Doc | ballssticksstuff.com Wed, 03 Jun 2009 17:24:36 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=5260#comment-79055 I found it odd too that he threw so few changeups, given that from everything I've read, it is a plus pitch for him. Charlie Manuel's presser after the game does agree with the pitch f/x data in that they were sliders, not changeups. I'm in agreement, I'm not ready to make too many conclusions based upon just one start in which he had a 4-run lead before he even toed the rubber, but I'm also in agreement that this approach had better change. I found it odd too that he threw so few changeups, given that from everything I’ve read, it is a plus pitch for him. Charlie Manuel’s presser after the game does agree with the pitch f/x data in that they were sliders, not changeups.

I’m in agreement, I’m not ready to make too many conclusions based upon just one start in which he had a 4-run lead before he even toed the rubber, but I’m also in agreement that this approach had better change.

]]> By: don http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/bastardo-debuts/#comment-79054 don Wed, 03 Jun 2009 17:21:50 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=5260#comment-79054 And he beat the Padres. I was hoping for a bad joke in the title. And he beat the Padres. I was hoping for a bad joke in the title.

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