Comments on: Breaking Up the Band http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/breaking-up-the-band/ Daily baseball statistical analysis and commentary Sun, 12 Feb 2012 19:00:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: MarkInDallas http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/breaking-up-the-band/#comment-103866 MarkInDallas Sun, 25 Oct 2009 04:24:50 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=6896#comment-103866 As a prologue to this story, Freddy Sanchez was traded to the Giants, as we know, for Tim Alderson in a move another FanGraphs writer questions as too high for Freddy. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/freddy-sanchez-for-who-seriously Sanchez then got hurt and barely played the rest of the season, missing his 600 PAs and $8M. I will be interesting to see what the Giants do with him and what his next contract is. As a prologue to this story, Freddy Sanchez was traded to the Giants, as we know, for Tim Alderson in a move another FanGraphs writer questions as too high for Freddy.
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/freddy-sanchez-for-who-seriously

Sanchez then got hurt and barely played the rest of the season, missing his 600 PAs and $8M.

I will be interesting to see what the Giants do with him and what his next contract is.

]]> By: Greg http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/breaking-up-the-band/#comment-87185 Greg Thu, 23 Jul 2009 19:08:20 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=6896#comment-87185 Only Alex Rodriguez actually makes 34 million, so the formula is wrong. Only Alex Rodriguez actually makes 34 million, so the formula is wrong.

]]> By: joser http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/breaking-up-the-band/#comment-86814 joser Tue, 21 Jul 2009 20:44:08 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=6896#comment-86814 <blockquote> I like the idea of vesting with ABs though. Does anyone do that? Financially discourage drawing walks. </blockquote> Bengie Molina apparently <i>thinks</i> that's in his contract.

I like the idea of vesting with ABs though. Does anyone do that? Financially discourage drawing walks.

Bengie Molina apparently thinks that’s in his contract.

]]> By: joser http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/breaking-up-the-band/#comment-86811 joser Tue, 21 Jul 2009 20:36:36 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=6896#comment-86811 You realize that according to their formula Halladay was worth $34M last year and has been worth over $20M so far this year. That he isn't getting paid anywhere near that much is a sign of a bad (for him) contract, not necessarily a flaw in the formula. You realize that according to their formula Halladay was worth $34M last year and has been worth over $20M so far this year. That he isn’t getting paid anywhere near that much is a sign of a bad (for him) contract, not necessarily a flaw in the formula.

]]> By: Ryan W http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/breaking-up-the-band/#comment-86809 Ryan W Tue, 21 Jul 2009 20:31:01 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=6896#comment-86809 Uhh, isn't "top grade talent" what the Pirates have been getting back in their recent deals? In Tabata, LaRoche, and Milledge, the Pirates bought low on highly regarded players who had fallen out of favor with their previous organizations and are still quite young. It's not as if the Pirates were the Marlins of a few years ago with a team full of talent to trade but rather one star and a bunch of role players. Given how threadbare the system was before Huntington arrived, trying to collect as many good players seems like the most reasonable strategy. Uhh, isn’t “top grade talent” what the Pirates have been getting back in their recent deals? In Tabata, LaRoche, and Milledge, the Pirates bought low on highly regarded players who had fallen out of favor with their previous organizations and are still quite young. It’s not as if the Pirates were the Marlins of a few years ago with a team full of talent to trade but rather one star and a bunch of role players. Given how threadbare the system was before Huntington arrived, trying to collect as many good players seems like the most reasonable strategy.

]]> By: don http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/breaking-up-the-band/#comment-86805 don Tue, 21 Jul 2009 20:25:25 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=6896#comment-86805 I like the idea of vesting with ABs though. Does anyone do that? Financially discourage drawing walks. I like the idea of vesting with ABs though. Does anyone do that? Financially discourage drawing walks.

]]> By: Greg http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/breaking-up-the-band/#comment-86799 Greg Tue, 21 Jul 2009 19:22:04 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=6896#comment-86799 He already has 361 PA which is a pace of 3.9 PA per game that the Pirates play. The Pirates have 70 more games so if he keeps that pace up he will finish with 634 PA and his option will vest. If he gets injured or if the Pirates pull some shenanigans it might not vest. He already has 361 PA which is a pace of 3.9 PA per game that the Pirates play. The Pirates have 70 more games so if he keeps that pace up he will finish with 634 PA and his option will vest. If he gets injured or if the Pirates pull some shenanigans it might not vest.

]]> By: Greg http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/breaking-up-the-band/#comment-86796 Greg Tue, 21 Jul 2009 19:17:26 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=6896#comment-86796 Sanchez's option vests with 600 PA, not 600 AB. Sanchez’s option vests with 600 PA, not 600 AB.

]]> By: Gaupo http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/breaking-up-the-band/#comment-86789 Gaupo Tue, 21 Jul 2009 18:28:00 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=6896#comment-86789 The Pirates have played 92 games. Freddy has 334 abats. He needs 266 abats in 70 games. With the off days that the Pirates have historically given "Fragile Freddy", September call-ups in which they could legitimately start a youngster over him as an audition.... not to add a possible injury..... 600 abats is not guaranteed. People keep talking like it's a given. The Pirates have played 92 games. Freddy has 334 abats. He needs 266 abats in 70 games. With the off days that the Pirates have historically given “Fragile Freddy”, September call-ups in which they could legitimately start a youngster over him as an audition…. not to add a possible injury….. 600 abats is not guaranteed. People keep talking like it’s a given.

]]> By: Greg http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/breaking-up-the-band/#comment-86783 Greg Tue, 21 Jul 2009 18:01:28 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=6896#comment-86783 Agreed. Wilson is +5.5 on defense for his career. A far cry from the +19 and +17 that the article cites from the last two half seasons. Agreed. Wilson is +5.5 on defense for his career. A far cry from the +19 and +17 that the article cites from the last two half seasons.

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