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	<title>Comments on: Chris Young&#8217;s Fatal Flaw</title>
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		<title>By: Caleb</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/chris-youngs-fatal-flaw/#comment-82385</link>
		<dc:creator>Caleb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 20:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Updating a previous item, base stealers are currently at 20/20 against Chris Young.

http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2009/6/26/926224/daily-box-score-pickoffs-four-hit</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Updating a previous item, base stealers are currently at 20/20 against Chris Young.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2009/6/26/926224/daily-box-score-pickoffs-four-hit" rel="nofollow">http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2009/6/26/926224/daily-box-score-pickoffs-four-hit</a></p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/chris-youngs-fatal-flaw/#comment-73871</link>
		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Where did you find the stolen base numbers against Young? Are these statistics (stolen bases allowed/attempted) readily available?&quot;

BB-ref also has them, under the main &quot;pitching statistics&quot; for a player, in the &quot;Batting Against--Pitching&quot; table.

Young has an amazing record.  I thought Gooden, Nomo, and Wakefield were bad at preventing steals, but they&#039;re still not close to Young.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Where did you find the stolen base numbers against Young? Are these statistics (stolen bases allowed/attempted) readily available?&#8221;</p>
<p>BB-ref also has them, under the main &#8220;pitching statistics&#8221; for a player, in the &#8220;Batting Against&#8211;Pitching&#8221; table.</p>
<p>Young has an amazing record.  I thought Gooden, Nomo, and Wakefield were bad at preventing steals, but they&#8217;re still not close to Young.</p>
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		<title>By: Fresh Hops</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/chris-youngs-fatal-flaw/#comment-73864</link>
		<dc:creator>Fresh Hops</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction: that should have read &quot;his looking strike rate was half his swinging strike rate&quot; not &quot;half his Ks were looking.&quot; There&#039;s obviously a big difference. Still, that is a high rate of looking Ks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction: that should have read &#8220;his looking strike rate was half his swinging strike rate&#8221; not &#8220;half his Ks were looking.&#8221; There&#8217;s obviously a big difference. Still, that is a high rate of looking Ks.</p>
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		<title>By: bhoov</title>
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		<dc:creator>bhoov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gavin Floyd may be second worst among active pitchers. baserunners are 66 for 74 for an 89% success rate in his career. 37/42 last year for 88% success rate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gavin Floyd may be second worst among active pitchers. baserunners are 66 for 74 for an 89% success rate in his career. 37/42 last year for 88% success rate.</p>
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		<title>By: TheGreenMiles</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/chris-youngs-fatal-flaw/#comment-73842</link>
		<dc:creator>TheGreenMiles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 14:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clearly anyone can see that throwing out baserunners is solely the catcher&#039;s duty so it&#039;s Nick Hundley&#039;s fault. &quot;Before the throw that popped Hawpe in the neck, Colorado had stolen 8 bases off of San Diego catcher Nick Hundley — 5 by Dexter Fowler.  Hundley, who’s only relation to Todd is that they both suck at nabbing base stealers, didn’t intend to hit Hawpe in the neck, but I bet the throw had some extra zip on it out of frustration.&quot;
http://www.bugsandcranks.com/marktownsend/video-another-awkward-moment-in-television-history-featuring-matt-vasgersian/

See? If only Hundley&#039;s throws were 300 mph ... Ian Stewart&#039;s glove would&#039;ve wound up pinned to the CF fence. But still.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clearly anyone can see that throwing out baserunners is solely the catcher&#8217;s duty so it&#8217;s Nick Hundley&#8217;s fault. &#8220;Before the throw that popped Hawpe in the neck, Colorado had stolen 8 bases off of San Diego catcher Nick Hundley — 5 by Dexter Fowler.  Hundley, who’s only relation to Todd is that they both suck at nabbing base stealers, didn’t intend to hit Hawpe in the neck, but I bet the throw had some extra zip on it out of frustration.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.bugsandcranks.com/marktownsend/video-another-awkward-moment-in-television-history-featuring-matt-vasgersian/" rel="nofollow">http://www.bugsandcranks.com/marktownsend/video-another-awkward-moment-in-television-history-featuring-matt-vasgersian/</a></p>
<p>See? If only Hundley&#8217;s throws were 300 mph &#8230; Ian Stewart&#8217;s glove would&#8217;ve wound up pinned to the CF fence. But still.</p>
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		<title>By: Trent</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/chris-youngs-fatal-flaw/#comment-73838</link>
		<dc:creator>Trent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 11:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got them from CBS under &quot;situational stats&quot;.  Here is Youngs page:

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/players/player/splits/2009/517762</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got them from CBS under &#8220;situational stats&#8221;.  Here is Youngs page:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/players/player/splits/2009/517762" rel="nofollow">http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/players/player/splits/2009/517762</a></p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 05:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave,

Where did you find the stolen base numbers against Young? Are these statistics (stolen bases allowed/attempted) readily available?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave,</p>
<p>Where did you find the stolen base numbers against Young? Are these statistics (stolen bases allowed/attempted) readily available?</p>
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		<title>By: Trent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 03:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most people seem to agree with you.  I went ahead and looked back a few years...Here is what I found.

From 2005-2008 35 pitchers have had a season with a GB/FB under 0.7.  Of these only 8 had a BABIP over .300.  Where as 9 have had a BABIP under .260.  Considering BABIP is supposed to normalize at .300 it looks like there might be a trend for those pitchers that are extreme flyball pitchers to have a lower normalized BABIP than normal pitchers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most people seem to agree with you.  I went ahead and looked back a few years&#8230;Here is what I found.</p>
<p>From 2005-2008 35 pitchers have had a season with a GB/FB under 0.7.  Of these only 8 had a BABIP over .300.  Where as 9 have had a BABIP under .260.  Considering BABIP is supposed to normalize at .300 it looks like there might be a trend for those pitchers that are extreme flyball pitchers to have a lower normalized BABIP than normal pitchers.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Harms</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Harms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 02:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right on me throwing out the generalities, fair enough.  But the whip, era, and hits are all artificially low due to his unsustainable babip.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right on me throwing out the generalities, fair enough.  But the whip, era, and hits are all artificially low due to his unsustainable babip.</p>
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		<title>By: Trent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 23:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would say that is a bit of an exageration.  Here are his splits for his first two years in San Diego(leaving out last year because he was injured most of the year):

Away:  181IP 68ER 126H 76BB 3.38ERA 1.07WHIP
Home:  171.1IP 60ER 126H 65BB 3.14 ERA 1.06WHIP

Yeah...I suppose your right, no way he should be in the majors.  You would think if you frequented a site like this you wouldn&#039;t throw out generalities like you did without first looking at the numbers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would say that is a bit of an exageration.  Here are his splits for his first two years in San Diego(leaving out last year because he was injured most of the year):</p>
<p>Away:  181IP 68ER 126H 76BB 3.38ERA 1.07WHIP<br />
Home:  171.1IP 60ER 126H 65BB 3.14 ERA 1.06WHIP</p>
<p>Yeah&#8230;I suppose your right, no way he should be in the majors.  You would think if you frequented a site like this you wouldn&#8217;t throw out generalities like you did without first looking at the numbers.</p>
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