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Also, shouldn’t we take into account warm up pitches, bull pen sessions between starts, etc?

I said in another thread, but IMO, Roy Halladay in the NL is going to “the best of Chris Carpenter” …. only for 240 IP.

Looking back as to what newcomers to the NL have done (Arroyo, Volquez, Lee, etc) and Halladay’s 1st half of the season has the potential to just be mind-blowing, while hitters try to figure him out (good luck).

Lincecum will be the front-runner as the Reigning CY and the Strikeout King … but Halladay is going to get him in IP and WHIP, ERA, and likely finish 2nd or 3rd in K’s. In the end, Halladay, especially with being on the Phils, should take the Cy. Lincecum this year basically went up against Wainwright (not a perennial contender) and Carpenter (2/3′s of a season or so). Halladay comes in the rep and the numbers.

He has been a 7 WAR pitcher in the AL, and in his 1st season in the NL (if healthy all year), I don;t see why he couldn;t be an 8 WAR pitcher.

I hate the Phils, but I am excited to see more of Halladay in the NL.

There is a big difference in 200 and 270 innings. Guys who see huge spikes like this suffer ill effects from it. There’s just no getting around that.

And there’s a big difference in Halladay pitching 230, 235, 238, etc etc year after year and Lee going 179, 200, 200, 59, 225, 270.

Halladay had an injury filled 2004 (shoulder) after seeing the huge innings spike (~260) in 2003. He broke his leg the next year with a Texas line drive.

Webb has saw a big two-year spike and had shoulder problems this season.

Carpenter got up over 260 innings and blew his arm out.

There are lots of these examples. It’s really pretty easy to look them up.

Can you name pitchers who have thrown 260+ innings/500 in two years and have actually had their arm not fall off?

Those 10 extra innings must be a HUGE injury risk, right?

270 innings this year. TWO-HUNDRED SEVENTY. He’s thrown 500 innings over the last 2 seasons. Go look up guys who have thrown 270+ innings in a year and look up guys who have gone from relatively light inning production to throwing 500 in a 2-year span.

Cliff Lee’s arm was run into the ground in October. He’ll now get to shred his elbow under someone else’s watch.

I’m amazed that this isn’t being mentioned more. Pitchers who throw 270 innings and aren’t conditioned for the wear end up going the way of Chris Capuano, Chris Carpenter, Brandon Webb, Roy Halladay, etc etc.