Comments on: It’s Curtains for the Giambino http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/curtains-for-giambino/ Daily baseball statistical analysis and commentary Sun, 12 Feb 2012 19:14:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Brent http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/curtains-for-giambino/#comment-92923 Brent Mon, 24 Aug 2009 00:34:38 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=7638#comment-92923 LoL, touche. LoL, touche.

]]> By: RKO36 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/curtains-for-giambino/#comment-92909 RKO36 Sun, 23 Aug 2009 21:07:03 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=7638#comment-92909 See. And it only took two weeks. See. And it only took two weeks.

]]> By: B http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/curtains-for-giambino/#comment-90298 B Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:36:57 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=7638#comment-90298 We apologize for actually looking at the facts waynetolleson. If you have any factual arguments to share, go ahead... We apologize for actually looking at the facts waynetolleson. If you have any factual arguments to share, go ahead…

]]> By: waynetolleson http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/curtains-for-giambino/#comment-90285 waynetolleson Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:58:05 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=7638#comment-90285 It's stupid because Giambi played in an expansion era, in the steroid era, and he, himself, took lots and lots and lots of steroids. Can't you guys ever just look at the obvious? It’s stupid because Giambi played in an expansion era, in the steroid era, and he, himself, took lots and lots and lots of steroids. Can’t you guys ever just look at the obvious?

]]> By: Joe R http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/curtains-for-giambino/#comment-90257 Joe R Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:24:46 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=7638#comment-90257 No surprise, Cyril also sponsors his b-r page, hah. Another case of the awesomeness that was early player valuation. .272 lifetime BA as a SS (and a walk machine for his era), but of course it's not a .300. Wonder how many great players will be forgotten in favor of inferior players thanks to media laziness. No surprise, Cyril also sponsors his b-r page, hah.

Another case of the awesomeness that was early player valuation. .272 lifetime BA as a SS (and a walk machine for his era), but of course it’s not a .300. Wonder how many great players will be forgotten in favor of inferior players thanks to media laziness.

]]> By: Erik Manning http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/curtains-for-giambino/#comment-90255 Erik Manning Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:14:51 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=7638#comment-90255 Bill Dahlen is one of the players Cyril Morong has banged the drum for previously. 76 WAR over a 20 year career. Bill Dahlen is one of the players Cyril Morong has banged the drum for previously. 76 WAR over a 20 year career.

]]> By: Rally http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/curtains-for-giambino/#comment-90250 Rally Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:00:02 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=7638#comment-90250 I count 30 players eligible, not in the HOF, and better than Giambi. One who is very comparable is Jack Clark. Giambino's numbers look superficially better, but they were about equal offensive forces for their times, lots of power and walks, limited defensive value. I count 30 players eligible, not in the HOF, and better than Giambi. One who is very comparable is Jack Clark. Giambino’s numbers look superficially better, but they were about equal offensive forces for their times, lots of power and walks, limited defensive value.

]]> By: Joe R http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/curtains-for-giambino/#comment-90248 Joe R Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:56:52 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=7638#comment-90248 Whitaker and Grich come to mind quick. Whitaker and Grich come to mind quick.

]]> By: Rally http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/curtains-for-giambino/#comment-90244 Rally Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:52:15 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=7638#comment-90244 "His 52.3 wins above replacement ranks 150th overall according to Rally’s historical WAR database. That total is better than 48 players currently in the Hall right now, for what it's worth." There are a lot of mistakes in the Hall. I think a better question is how many eligible non-HOFers are ahead of him? “His 52.3 wins above replacement ranks 150th overall according to Rally’s historical WAR database. That total is better than 48 players currently in the Hall right now, for what it’s worth.”

There are a lot of mistakes in the Hall. I think a better question is how many eligible non-HOFers are ahead of him?

]]> By: Joe R http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/curtains-for-giambino/#comment-90236 Joe R Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:34:53 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=7638#comment-90236 Seriously. We know steroids are bad, but do people actually think these MLB players emerged from the strike and suddenly found these magic pills that made them really good at hitting? That stuff like this had been occuring for ages but became more noticeable as the PED's became more sophisticated? If you want real outrage, how about the HS coaches who turn a blind eye when their 17 year old linebacker shows up to training camp 60 lbs heavier than the season before (believe me, I've seen this). Seriously.
We know steroids are bad, but do people actually think these MLB players emerged from the strike and suddenly found these magic pills that made them really good at hitting? That stuff like this had been occuring for ages but became more noticeable as the PED’s became more sophisticated?

If you want real outrage, how about the HS coaches who turn a blind eye when their 17 year old linebacker shows up to training camp 60 lbs heavier than the season before (believe me, I’ve seen this).

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