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	<title>Comments on: D&#8217;Backs Sign Garland.  Why?</title>
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		<title>By: heyyoo</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/dbacks-sign-garland-why/#comment-95685</link>
		<dc:creator>heyyoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 05:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;In a market where good pitchers are signing for bargain rates, the D’Backs just paid non-bargain rates for a bad pitcher. Congratulations, Arizona, you’ve officially screwed up your entire offseason.&quot;


Garland 1.9 WAR, 8.6 Million value, and counting

Johnson 0.5 WAR, 2.1 Million value, and most definitely NOT counting. 

And the D Backs will get a player back from the Dodgers for Garland.  The rest of their season went to shite, but this was a sound signing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In a market where good pitchers are signing for bargain rates, the D’Backs just paid non-bargain rates for a bad pitcher. Congratulations, Arizona, you’ve officially screwed up your entire offseason.&#8221;</p>
<p>Garland 1.9 WAR, 8.6 Million value, and counting</p>
<p>Johnson 0.5 WAR, 2.1 Million value, and most definitely NOT counting. </p>
<p>And the D Backs will get a player back from the Dodgers for Garland.  The rest of their season went to shite, but this was a sound signing.</p>
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		<title>By: joser</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/dbacks-sign-garland-why/#comment-89322</link>
		<dc:creator>joser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 08:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, look, another witless comment by the mouth-breathing &quot;gotcha&quot; brigade...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, look, another witless comment by the mouth-breathing &#8220;gotcha&#8221; brigade&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Levski</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/dbacks-sign-garland-why/#comment-89167</link>
		<dc:creator>Levski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 22:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So far, through 4 months...

Randy Johnson, 17 GS, 91 2/3 IP, 4.81 ERA in a pitcher&#039;s park, 1 DL Trip
Jon Garland, 22 GS, 137 1/3 IP, 4.26 ERA in a hitter&#039;s park, 1 Complete Game

I suppose there&#039;s no need to look at silly stats like ERA+ or WPA or VORP...
Congratulations, Cameron, you’ve officially written just another pointless piece.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So far, through 4 months&#8230;</p>
<p>Randy Johnson, 17 GS, 91 2/3 IP, 4.81 ERA in a pitcher&#8217;s park, 1 DL Trip<br />
Jon Garland, 22 GS, 137 1/3 IP, 4.26 ERA in a hitter&#8217;s park, 1 Complete Game</p>
<p>I suppose there&#8217;s no need to look at silly stats like ERA+ or WPA or VORP&#8230;<br />
Congratulations, Cameron, you’ve officially written just another pointless piece.</p>
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		<title>By: Paqs</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/dbacks-sign-garland-why/#comment-66835</link>
		<dc:creator>Paqs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Make that great two years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Make that great two years.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/dbacks-sign-garland-why/#comment-66633</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to say something in defense of Josh byrnes about the Eric Byrnes extension. When Eric got signed to that extension, he was having a great year, nobody could have known at the time that he was going to get hurt (even though he plays all-out and rough).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to say something in defense of Josh byrnes about the Eric Byrnes extension. When Eric got signed to that extension, he was having a great year, nobody could have known at the time that he was going to get hurt (even though he plays all-out and rough).</p>
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		<title>By: Levski</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/dbacks-sign-garland-why/#comment-62150</link>
		<dc:creator>Levski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 00:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Happy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy?</p>
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		<title>By: OsandRoayals</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/dbacks-sign-garland-why/#comment-61252</link>
		<dc:creator>OsandRoayals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just thought it worth mentioning that Arizona seems to believe it was a mistake too if one looks at their MLB.com mouthpiece.  Apparently they budgeted some money for 1st round draft picks but after not offering arbitration and assuming that one of their type-A free agents won&#039;t bring them a firstrounder they found some money for garland
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090129&amp;content_id=3784160&amp;vkey=news_ari&amp;fext=.jsp&amp;c_id=ari</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just thought it worth mentioning that Arizona seems to believe it was a mistake too if one looks at their MLB.com mouthpiece.  Apparently they budgeted some money for 1st round draft picks but after not offering arbitration and assuming that one of their type-A free agents won&#8217;t bring them a firstrounder they found some money for garland<br />
<a href="http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090129&amp;content_id=3784160&amp;vkey=news_ari&amp;fext=.jsp&amp;c_id=ari" rel="nofollow">http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090129&amp;content_id=3784160&amp;vkey=news_ari&amp;fext=.jsp&amp;c_id=ari</a></p>
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		<title>By: JI</title>
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		<dc:creator>JI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Either Josh Byrnes was kick in the head by a mule, or the Diamondbacks must really really really hate Randy Johnson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Either Josh Byrnes was kick in the head by a mule, or the Diamondbacks must really really really hate Randy Johnson.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/dbacks-sign-garland-why/#comment-61083</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to play devil&#039;s advocate for a moment.....

Granted the Dbacks should have gone another direction and preferably signed RJ, but is Garland truly awful? 

His FIP&#039;s have been between 4.25 and 4.75, a little better than league average, and he was worth 1.8 wins last year, roughly around 8M, and the 3 previous years he was worth 3+ wins, which equates to 14+M.

Obviouslly it is hard to watch Garland for 200inn, but maybe a change to the NL will help a bit, and now he gets to play in pitcher friendly parks, SD, SF, LA.........

It was not an awful signing for the money, but I do agree RJ would have been a better bet.

So you can&#039;t talk bad about the contract, but by all means question their motives and poor management.....(Tony Clark and the Garland signings for a team that has no money to spend)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to play devil&#8217;s advocate for a moment&#8230;..</p>
<p>Granted the Dbacks should have gone another direction and preferably signed RJ, but is Garland truly awful? </p>
<p>His FIP&#8217;s have been between 4.25 and 4.75, a little better than league average, and he was worth 1.8 wins last year, roughly around 8M, and the 3 previous years he was worth 3+ wins, which equates to 14+M.</p>
<p>Obviouslly it is hard to watch Garland for 200inn, but maybe a change to the NL will help a bit, and now he gets to play in pitcher friendly parks, SD, SF, LA&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>It was not an awful signing for the money, but I do agree RJ would have been a better bet.</p>
<p>So you can&#8217;t talk bad about the contract, but by all means question their motives and poor management&#8230;..(Tony Clark and the Garland signings for a team that has no money to spend)</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Parker** excuse me

I know the kid is yound, but I would like to see him pitch a little but in the bigs this year, and Petit would be just fine for 50 inn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Parker** excuse me</p>
<p>I know the kid is yound, but I would like to see him pitch a little but in the bigs this year, and Petit would be just fine for 50 inn</p>
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