Comments on: Eckstein to the Padres http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/eckstein-to-the-padres/ Daily baseball statistical analysis and commentary Sun, 12 Feb 2012 20:36:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Joe R http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/eckstein-to-the-padres/#comment-61700 Joe R Thu, 05 Feb 2009 08:13:04 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=2396#comment-61700 Pretty nice sign. I'm thinking Eckstein is worth .9-1.0 wins over replacement, too, and that's a pretty nice return at 850k Fill a hole and with the way the NL West has been, a possible flukey season and stumble into the playoffs. Pretty nice sign. I’m thinking Eckstein is worth .9-1.0 wins over replacement, too, and that’s a pretty nice return at 850k Fill a hole and with the way the NL West has been, a possible flukey season and stumble into the playoffs.

]]> By: Greg Foley http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/eckstein-to-the-padres/#comment-60065 Greg Foley Tue, 20 Jan 2009 19:23:56 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=2396#comment-60065 What about it, RJ? Seems like CCW raises an important question that merits a response from the author. What about it, RJ? Seems like CCW raises an important question that merits a response from the author.

]]> By: BTC http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/eckstein-to-the-padres/#comment-59878 BTC Sun, 18 Jan 2009 00:01:50 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=2396#comment-59878 Maybe so, but I'd still rather give the kid a shot -- in a year that can't be looked as anything but a rebuilding season -- rather than have the position blocked by someone like Eckstein. Scrappy or not, he's not going to do anything special for your team. Just doesn't make sense. Maybe so, but I’d still rather give the kid a shot — in a year that can’t be looked as anything but a rebuilding season — rather than have the position blocked by someone like Eckstein.

Scrappy or not, he’s not going to do anything special for your team. Just doesn’t make sense.

]]> By: Polanco fan http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/eckstein-to-the-padres/#comment-59826 Polanco fan Sat, 17 Jan 2009 08:20:02 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=2396#comment-59826 Eck is such a scrapolious scrapper! Eck is such a scrapolious scrapper!

]]> By: Marcel http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/eckstein-to-the-padres/#comment-59822 Marcel Sat, 17 Jan 2009 07:19:43 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=2396#comment-59822 Antonelli's MLEs are absolutely horrible right now. He needs to stay in the minors and have an awesome year to even be considered a real prospect again. Antonelli’s MLEs are absolutely horrible right now. He needs to stay in the minors and have an awesome year to even be considered a real prospect again.

]]> By: BTC http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/eckstein-to-the-padres/#comment-59744 BTC Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:26:52 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=2396#comment-59744 This signing doesn't make any sense to me. Eckstein will be league average at best with no upside at this point in his career. Why not hand the job off to Antonelli who would more than likely be able to match Eckstein numbers. I don't get this move at all. This signing doesn’t make any sense to me. Eckstein will be league average at best with no upside at this point in his career. Why not hand the job off to Antonelli who would more than likely be able to match Eckstein numbers. I don’t get this move at all.

]]> By: Kyle Boddy http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/eckstein-to-the-padres/#comment-59742 Kyle Boddy Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:06:41 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=2396#comment-59742 Looks like a good deal for a team that won't compete and just needs to fill some holes. Looks like a good deal for a team that won’t compete and just needs to fill some holes.

]]> By: Kyle Boddy http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/eckstein-to-the-padres/#comment-59741 Kyle Boddy Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:06:25 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=2396#comment-59741 The premium for above-average players typically puts a team closer to making the playoffs, at which point the wins become worth exponentially more. Like you said, it's not a linear relationship - it's very geometric. The premium for above-average players typically puts a team closer to making the playoffs, at which point the wins become worth exponentially more. Like you said, it’s not a linear relationship – it’s very geometric.

]]> By: CCW http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/eckstein-to-the-padres/#comment-59738 CCW Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:01:34 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=2396#comment-59738 Seems to me there is a trend... below average, but above replacement level, players, are consistently good deals for the team, in terms of dollars per win, while above average players are more often valued more closely to their actual "value". I know this subject has been hashed out in other contexts, but isn't this just more evidence that teams are willing to pay a premium for above-average players (relative to below average players), because the supply is limited and you will almost certainly need at least some to make up for any below average players you might have? That would make sense to me. Put another way, there is no reason to assume the supply/demand curve would be the same shape as the $/win curve. In fact, they are almost certainly different shapes. Seems to me there is a trend… below average, but above replacement level, players, are consistently good deals for the team, in terms of dollars per win, while above average players are more often valued more closely to their actual “value”. I know this subject has been hashed out in other contexts, but isn’t this just more evidence that teams are willing to pay a premium for above-average players (relative to below average players), because the supply is limited and you will almost certainly need at least some to make up for any below average players you might have? That would make sense to me. Put another way, there is no reason to assume the supply/demand curve would be the same shape as the $/win curve. In fact, they are almost certainly different shapes.

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