Comments on: Elias Rankings Screw Damaso Marte http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/elias-rankings-screw-damaso-marte/ Daily baseball statistical analysis and commentary Mon, 13 Feb 2012 00:21:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jon http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/elias-rankings-screw-damaso-marte/#comment-50692 Jon Fri, 07 Nov 2008 17:44:08 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/elias-rankings-screw-damaso-marte/#comment-50692 Just imagine if Darren Oliver ever wanted to play for another team... poor guy. Just imagine if Darren Oliver ever wanted to play for another team… poor guy.

]]> By: Greg http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/elias-rankings-screw-damaso-marte/#comment-50537 Greg Thu, 06 Nov 2008 19:13:56 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/elias-rankings-screw-damaso-marte/#comment-50537 The compensation system was collectively bargained and therefore can't be changed without additional collective bargaining, which is messy. MLB wants there to be some compensation for free agent signings because it keeps the price of free agents down. The players union wants there to be no compensation for the same reason. Draft pick compensation was agreed upon as a compromise. At the time, draft picks were not as valuable as they now are. The compensation system was collectively bargained and therefore can’t be changed without additional collective bargaining, which is messy. MLB wants there to be some compensation for free agent signings because it keeps the price of free agents down. The players union wants there to be no compensation for the same reason. Draft pick compensation was agreed upon as a compromise. At the time, draft picks were not as valuable as they now are.

]]> By: Centris http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/elias-rankings-screw-damaso-marte/#comment-50395 Centris Thu, 06 Nov 2008 00:43:31 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/elias-rankings-screw-damaso-marte/#comment-50395 Mike, the author of Detroit Tigers Thoughts has tried to reverse engineer the Elias ranking system. I am not sure how successful he has been or how much he makes public but you could check that out. Here were his projections for NL starters, where he discusses the methods some what: http://tigers-thoughts.blogspot.com/2008/10/final-elias-projections-nl-starting.html And here is the introduction to his projections in general: http://tigers-thoughts.blogspot.com/2008/10/final-elias-projections-preview.html Mike,

the author of Detroit Tigers Thoughts has tried to reverse engineer the Elias ranking system. I am not sure how successful he has been or how much he makes public but you could check that out.

Here were his projections for NL starters, where he discusses the methods some what:

http://tigers-thoughts.blogspot.com/2008/10/final-elias-projections-nl-starting.html

And here is the introduction to his projections in general:

http://tigers-thoughts.blogspot.com/2008/10/final-elias-projections-preview.html

]]> By: Mike P http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/elias-rankings-screw-damaso-marte/#comment-50393 Mike P Thu, 06 Nov 2008 00:28:11 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/elias-rankings-screw-damaso-marte/#comment-50393 There are a lot of things I don't understand about these rankings. Why isn't the formula made public? Is there anywhere I can see a rundown of the history/formation of the whole process? There used to be Type C's in older rankings, right? When did draft pick compensation start? Dave, or anyone, any links or help would be greatly appreciated. There are a lot of things I don’t understand about these rankings. Why isn’t the formula made public? Is there anywhere I can see a rundown of the history/formation of the whole process? There used to be Type C’s in older rankings, right? When did draft pick compensation start? Dave, or anyone, any links or help would be greatly appreciated.

]]> By: Centris http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/elias-rankings-screw-damaso-marte/#comment-50385 Centris Wed, 05 Nov 2008 23:50:00 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/elias-rankings-screw-damaso-marte/#comment-50385 Dave, Is this system part of the union negotiated contract? If so why hasn't the player's union try to fix it, as it seems to offer no benefit to the players. If it is not part of the union negotiated contract where would the push for reform come from? I really enjoy your work here and at uss mariner. Dave,

Is this system part of the union negotiated contract? If so why hasn’t the player’s union try to fix it, as it seems to offer no benefit to the players.

If it is not part of the union negotiated contract where would the push for reform come from?

I really enjoy your work here and at uss mariner.

]]> By: Dave Cameron http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/elias-rankings-screw-damaso-marte/#comment-50368 Dave Cameron Wed, 05 Nov 2008 22:08:56 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/elias-rankings-screw-damaso-marte/#comment-50368 That they will almost certainly decline. That they will almost certainly decline.

]]> By: 55 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/elias-rankings-screw-damaso-marte/#comment-50367 55 Wed, 05 Nov 2008 22:06:17 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/elias-rankings-screw-damaso-marte/#comment-50367 The Yankees have a $6m option on Marte. The Yankees have a $6m option on Marte.

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