Comments on: Free Agent Values: CC Sabathia http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/free-agent-values-cc-sabathia/ Daily baseball statistical analysis and commentary Mon, 13 Feb 2012 00:14:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Rob http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/free-agent-values-cc-sabathia/#comment-52169 Rob Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:19:17 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/free-agent-values-cc-sabathia/#comment-52169 Santana was also already under contract. It makes a difference because he couldn't entertain other offers as such. Santana was also already under contract. It makes a difference because he couldn’t entertain other offers as such.

]]> By: Sky http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/free-agent-values-cc-sabathia/#comment-51969 Sky Sat, 15 Nov 2008 17:00:20 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/free-agent-values-cc-sabathia/#comment-51969 I've got Sabathia at $26MM per year, mostly due to a more conservative ERA projection. I’ve got Sabathia at $26MM per year, mostly due to a more conservative ERA projection.

]]> By: fritts http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/free-agent-values-cc-sabathia/#comment-51771 fritts Fri, 14 Nov 2008 22:43:13 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/free-agent-values-cc-sabathia/#comment-51771 It stands for fielding independent pitching It stands for fielding independent pitching

]]> By: Daniel Love Glazer http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/free-agent-values-cc-sabathia/#comment-51760 Daniel Love Glazer Fri, 14 Nov 2008 21:42:32 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/free-agent-values-cc-sabathia/#comment-51760 What is FIP? What is FIP?

]]> By: Jake Russ http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/free-agent-values-cc-sabathia/#comment-51732 Jake Russ Fri, 14 Nov 2008 19:15:58 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/free-agent-values-cc-sabathia/#comment-51732 I'm thinking now that that last sentence is confusing. So let me rephrase. I don't think salary inflation has a linear relationship with production. I think that the upper echelon players will see greater inflation in their salaries each year than mean salary increase. I’m thinking now that that last sentence is confusing. So let me rephrase. I don’t think salary inflation has a linear relationship with production. I think that the upper echelon players will see greater inflation in their salaries each year than mean salary increase.

]]> By: Jake Russ http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/free-agent-values-cc-sabathia/#comment-51731 Jake Russ Fri, 14 Nov 2008 19:09:44 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/free-agent-values-cc-sabathia/#comment-51731 This assumes that he remains a 5.5 win pitcher over the life of the deal. Which is possible, but I'd have to say unlikely. So the team could argue down off your 27mil/year. Since this proposed 6 year deal would cover him until about age 34. What I think is more plausible is a deal averaging in the mid $20 millions (say $24mil) but heavily backloaded, so the team can take advantage of the time value of money. The $24mil/year would be factoring in both a little age slippage and the security factor of going to 6 years. Proposed escalation: 17,20,24,26,27,30 Avg=24. CC's Avg. of $24mil/yr would also put him 22.4% above Johan's Avg of 19.6/year. I know salaries as a whole are going up at around 10% a year, but I also guess that salaries for the premium players are going up a bit faster than 10% as teams get closer to understanding replacement level. The guys at the top should start to see even more dollars chasing their extra marginal wins than the players closer to replacement level. This assumes that he remains a 5.5 win pitcher over the life of the deal. Which is possible, but I’d have to say unlikely. So the team could argue down off your 27mil/year. Since this proposed 6 year deal would cover him until about age 34. What I think is more plausible is a deal averaging in the mid $20 millions (say $24mil) but heavily backloaded, so the team can take advantage of the time value of money. The $24mil/year would be factoring in both a little age slippage and the security factor of going to 6 years. Proposed escalation: 17,20,24,26,27,30 Avg=24.

CC’s Avg. of $24mil/yr would also put him 22.4% above Johan’s Avg of 19.6/year. I know salaries as a whole are going up at around 10% a year, but I also guess that salaries for the premium players are going up a bit faster than 10% as teams get closer to understanding replacement level. The guys at the top should start to see even more dollars chasing their extra marginal wins than the players closer to replacement level.

]]> By: Dave Cameron http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/free-agent-values-cc-sabathia/#comment-51705 Dave Cameron Fri, 14 Nov 2008 17:27:30 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/free-agent-values-cc-sabathia/#comment-51705 The $400,000 league minimum salary is accounted for in the $5.5 million per win calculation. The $400,000 league minimum salary is accounted for in the $5.5 million per win calculation.

]]> By: ajwalsh http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/free-agent-values-cc-sabathia/#comment-51703 ajwalsh Fri, 14 Nov 2008 17:25:51 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/free-agent-values-cc-sabathia/#comment-51703 If it's $5 million per win, what do you pay replacement level pitchers? Do negative win pitchers have to pay to play? If it’s $5 million per win, what do you pay replacement level pitchers? Do negative win pitchers have to pay to play?

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