Comments on: How The Mighty Have Fallen http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/how-the-mighty-have-fallen/ Daily baseball statistical analysis and commentary Sun, 12 Feb 2012 20:36:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Trev http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/how-the-mighty-have-fallen/#comment-35045 Trev Mon, 02 Jun 2008 22:32:36 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/how-the-mighty-have-fallen/#comment-35045 There's no help coming from the minors. Until the Beckhams are drafted the AL's best SS prospects are Brandon Wood (279/328/566) and Reid Brignac (280/313/476 in AAA). Throw Jed Lowrie in there too if you think he can stick at short. Either way, this is no "Holy Trinity". There’s no help coming from the minors. Until the Beckhams are drafted the AL’s best SS prospects are Brandon Wood (279/328/566) and Reid Brignac (280/313/476 in AAA). Throw Jed Lowrie in there too if you think he can stick at short.

Either way, this is no “Holy Trinity”.

]]> By: Evan http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/how-the-mighty-have-fallen/#comment-35023 Evan Mon, 02 Jun 2008 17:49:59 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/how-the-mighty-have-fallen/#comment-35023 Remember, they got Lowell in that trade, too. Remember, they got Lowell in that trade, too.

]]> By: Sal Paradise http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/how-the-mighty-have-fallen/#comment-34993 Sal Paradise Mon, 02 Jun 2008 02:45:54 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/how-the-mighty-have-fallen/#comment-34993 Lugo is absolutely awful defensively. He's at the bottom of RZR (<a href="http://www.hardballtimes.com/thtstats/main/index.php?view=fielding&linesToDisplay=50&orderBy=zone_rating&direction=DESC&qual_filter=1&season_filter%5B%5D=2008&league_filter%5B%5D=1&team_filter%5B%5D=All&pos_filter%5B%5D=6&Submit=Submit" rel="nofollow">source</a>) and it's tough to really find any positive fielding stats for him. Worst Fielding Percentage too. All-around awful. If only the Red Sox had some phenomenal shortstop in their system who they could have brought up... (was Beckett worth it? Really?) Lugo is absolutely awful defensively. He’s at the bottom of RZR (source) and it’s tough to really find any positive fielding stats for him. Worst Fielding Percentage too. All-around awful.

If only the Red Sox had some phenomenal shortstop in their system who they could have brought up…

(was Beckett worth it? Really?)

]]> By: joser http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/how-the-mighty-have-fallen/#comment-34922 joser Sat, 31 May 2008 17:46:11 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/how-the-mighty-have-fallen/#comment-34922 Take a look at the leaderboard. There are no AL shortstops with a positive WPA. None. (And how is it Yuniesky Betancourt and Michael Young are the least worst by WPA?) Take a look at the leaderboard. There are no AL shortstops with a positive WPA. None.

(And how is it Yuniesky Betancourt and Michael Young are the least worst by WPA?)

]]> By: Sentinel http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/how-the-mighty-have-fallen/#comment-34869 Sentinel Sat, 31 May 2008 01:48:55 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/how-the-mighty-have-fallen/#comment-34869 I meant talented defensively up there. Bah! And he's got to have speed. I meant talented defensively up there. Bah! And he’s got to have speed.

]]> By: Sentinel http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/how-the-mighty-have-fallen/#comment-34861 Sentinel Fri, 30 May 2008 22:10:12 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/how-the-mighty-have-fallen/#comment-34861 I think we're past the days of someone like Alex Rodriguez at SS. We might be going back to the Ozzie Smith-type player at the position. Honestly, I'll take an extraordinarily talented SS, as long as he's not an automatic out at the plate. I think we’re past the days of someone like Alex Rodriguez at SS. We might be going back to the Ozzie Smith-type player at the position. Honestly, I’ll take an extraordinarily talented SS, as long as he’s not an automatic out at the plate.

]]> By: Scappy http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/how-the-mighty-have-fallen/#comment-34834 Scappy Fri, 30 May 2008 13:30:10 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/how-the-mighty-have-fallen/#comment-34834 I think most sox fans (myself included) dislike Lugo to the point of him having no hope of making the All-Star team. I personally believe we never should have got rid of the real 2006 gold glove winner, Alex Gonzalez. Sure he wasn't very good at the plate, but 7 errors in 111 games is pretty damn good. Though in hindsight he did wind up with a broken knee so i guess it panned out ok. I think most sox fans (myself included) dislike Lugo to the point of him having no hope of making the All-Star team. I personally believe we never should have got rid of the real 2006 gold glove winner, Alex Gonzalez. Sure he wasn’t very good at the plate, but 7 errors in 111 games is pretty damn good.

Though in hindsight he did wind up with a broken knee so i guess it panned out ok.

]]> By: Kanka http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/how-the-mighty-have-fallen/#comment-34833 Kanka Fri, 30 May 2008 13:11:16 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/how-the-mighty-have-fallen/#comment-34833 I've seen some people argue that AL teams are starting to become more defensive-minded with their shortstops, with guys like Julio Lugo, Tony Pena, and Asdrubal Cabrera. But only Lugo is hitting on the plus side of the Mendoza line right now, so you'll have trouble arguing for any of those guys right now. (Unless, of course, you're part of the powerful Red Sox voting bloc.) I’ve seen some people argue that AL teams are starting to become more defensive-minded with their shortstops, with guys like Julio Lugo, Tony Pena, and Asdrubal Cabrera. But only Lugo is hitting on the plus side of the Mendoza line right now, so you’ll have trouble arguing for any of those guys right now. (Unless, of course, you’re part of the powerful Red Sox voting bloc.)

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