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	<title>Comments on: Hudson &amp; Perez: BIS &amp; Pitchf/x</title>
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		<title>By: ultxmxpx</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/hudson-perez-bis-pitchfx/#comment-32103</link>
		<dc:creator>ultxmxpx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 21:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I classified the pitches the exact same as Mike, except I called the cutter/changeup mystery pitch a fastball.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I classified the pitches the exact same as Mike, except I called the cutter/changeup mystery pitch a fastball.</p>
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		<title>By: David Appelman</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/hudson-perez-bis-pitchfx/#comment-32100</link>
		<dc:creator>David Appelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 20:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike, from your list, BIS differs on 14 pitches, mostly pitches where you identify it as a cutter and a few changeups BIS will identify it as a fastball.  Two pitches you identify as changeups were classified as cutters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, from your list, BIS differs on 14 pitches, mostly pitches where you identify it as a cutter and a few changeups BIS will identify it as a fastball.  Two pitches you identify as changeups were classified as cutters.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Fast</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/hudson-perez-bis-pitchfx/#comment-32099</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Fast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 19:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s how I classify the pitches from Odalis Perez:
sv_id	type
080330_202246	fastball
080330_202313	cutter
080330_202337	fastball
080330_202359	cutter
080330_202418	cutter
080330_202453	fastball
080330_202508	fastball
080330_202525	fastball
080330_202541	changeup
080330_202606	changeup
080330_202632	cutter
080330_202657	changeup
080330_202716	changeup
080330_202741	changeup
080330_202821	fastball
080330_202858	fastball
080330_202913	cutter
080330_202934	fastball
080330_202952	cutter
080330_203012	fastball
080330_203040	cutter
080330_205149	cutter
080330_205241	fastball
080330_205257	fastball
080330_205327	cutter
080330_205410	fastball
080330_205438	cutter
080330_205452	fastball
080330_210209	cutter
080330_210222	fastball
080330_210258	fastball
080330_210310	changeup
080330_210328	changeup
080330_210431	fastball
080330_210507	curveball
080330_211307	cutter
080330_211322	changeup
080330_211351	fastball
080330_211407	changeup
080330_211424	fastball
080330_211458	cutter
080330_211511	cutter
080330_211526	fastball
080330_211612	fastball
080330_211631	cutter
080330_211651	changeup
080330_211707	cutter
080330_211740	cutter
080330_211755	cutter
080330_211815	changeup
080330_211831	cutter
080330_211849	cutter
080330_211931	fastball
080330_211954	cutter
080330_212019	changeup
080330_212100	fastball
080330_212123	fastball
080330_212156	cutter
080330_213101	fastball
080330_213115	cutter
080330_213157	cutter/changeup?
080330_213255	cutter
080330_213315	fastball
080330_213342	cutter
080330_213437	fastball
080330_213521	fastball
080330_213629	fastball
080330_213645	cutter
080330_213704	fastball

The x-z component of the spin rate is a very useful tool for classifying Perez&#039;s pitches.  His cutters have a low spin rate in the x-z plane, and his change-ups can then be separated from his fastballs based on speed (as well as spin parameters).  I have 41% fastballs, 39% cutters, 17% changeups, and 1% curves.

Perez&#039;s curveball is pretty slurvy.  I&#039;m comfortable calling it curveball based on the speed and his personal identification, but its spin characteristics are somewhere between slider and curve.

I am unsure about the pitch with Sportvision ID of 080330_213157.  It has some characteristics of both a cutter and a changeup.  If I had to choose, I&#039;d say it was a cutter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s how I classify the pitches from Odalis Perez:<br />
sv_id	type<br />
080330_202246	fastball<br />
080330_202313	cutter<br />
080330_202337	fastball<br />
080330_202359	cutter<br />
080330_202418	cutter<br />
080330_202453	fastball<br />
080330_202508	fastball<br />
080330_202525	fastball<br />
080330_202541	changeup<br />
080330_202606	changeup<br />
080330_202632	cutter<br />
080330_202657	changeup<br />
080330_202716	changeup<br />
080330_202741	changeup<br />
080330_202821	fastball<br />
080330_202858	fastball<br />
080330_202913	cutter<br />
080330_202934	fastball<br />
080330_202952	cutter<br />
080330_203012	fastball<br />
080330_203040	cutter<br />
080330_205149	cutter<br />
080330_205241	fastball<br />
080330_205257	fastball<br />
080330_205327	cutter<br />
080330_205410	fastball<br />
080330_205438	cutter<br />
080330_205452	fastball<br />
080330_210209	cutter<br />
080330_210222	fastball<br />
080330_210258	fastball<br />
080330_210310	changeup<br />
080330_210328	changeup<br />
080330_210431	fastball<br />
080330_210507	curveball<br />
080330_211307	cutter<br />
080330_211322	changeup<br />
080330_211351	fastball<br />
080330_211407	changeup<br />
080330_211424	fastball<br />
080330_211458	cutter<br />
080330_211511	cutter<br />
080330_211526	fastball<br />
080330_211612	fastball<br />
080330_211631	cutter<br />
080330_211651	changeup<br />
080330_211707	cutter<br />
080330_211740	cutter<br />
080330_211755	cutter<br />
080330_211815	changeup<br />
080330_211831	cutter<br />
080330_211849	cutter<br />
080330_211931	fastball<br />
080330_211954	cutter<br />
080330_212019	changeup<br />
080330_212100	fastball<br />
080330_212123	fastball<br />
080330_212156	cutter<br />
080330_213101	fastball<br />
080330_213115	cutter<br />
080330_213157	cutter/changeup?<br />
080330_213255	cutter<br />
080330_213315	fastball<br />
080330_213342	cutter<br />
080330_213437	fastball<br />
080330_213521	fastball<br />
080330_213629	fastball<br />
080330_213645	cutter<br />
080330_213704	fastball</p>
<p>The x-z component of the spin rate is a very useful tool for classifying Perez&#8217;s pitches.  His cutters have a low spin rate in the x-z plane, and his change-ups can then be separated from his fastballs based on speed (as well as spin parameters).  I have 41% fastballs, 39% cutters, 17% changeups, and 1% curves.</p>
<p>Perez&#8217;s curveball is pretty slurvy.  I&#8217;m comfortable calling it curveball based on the speed and his personal identification, but its spin characteristics are somewhere between slider and curve.</p>
<p>I am unsure about the pitch with Sportvision ID of 080330_213157.  It has some characteristics of both a cutter and a changeup.  If I had to choose, I&#8217;d say it was a cutter.</p>
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		<title>By: ultxmxpx</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/hudson-perez-bis-pitchfx/#comment-32093</link>
		<dc:creator>ultxmxpx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 17:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this.

Before seeing this I had analyzed Odalis&#039; pitches from the pitch f/x data as 44% fb, 38% ct, 12% ch, 1% sl. But if Perez says he throws a curveball, the &quot;slider&quot; must be a curveball, even if it is a pathetic one. The pfx_x value did appear to be too positive, so once that&#039;s fixed gameday will probably call more cutters (or at least call more sliders). There&#039;s not much of a difference between Odalis&#039; fastball and changeup, so it&#039;s hard to draw the line between the two. All-in-all he&#039;s a hard pitcher to analyze. The division between the cutter and fastball is not clear either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this.</p>
<p>Before seeing this I had analyzed Odalis&#8217; pitches from the pitch f/x data as 44% fb, 38% ct, 12% ch, 1% sl. But if Perez says he throws a curveball, the &#8220;slider&#8221; must be a curveball, even if it is a pathetic one. The pfx_x value did appear to be too positive, so once that&#8217;s fixed gameday will probably call more cutters (or at least call more sliders). There&#8217;s not much of a difference between Odalis&#8217; fastball and changeup, so it&#8217;s hard to draw the line between the two. All-in-all he&#8217;s a hard pitcher to analyze. The division between the cutter and fastball is not clear either.</p>
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		<title>By: David Appelman</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/hudson-perez-bis-pitchfx/#comment-32082</link>
		<dc:creator>David Appelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 14:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks John.  I&#039;d guess the gameday pitch type is done with an algorithm since they have the type_confidence stat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks John.  I&#8217;d guess the gameday pitch type is done with an algorithm since they have the type_confidence stat.</p>
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		<title>By: John Beamer</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/hudson-perez-bis-pitchfx/#comment-32071</link>
		<dc:creator>John Beamer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 08:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great analysis dave. It is really important we can cross reference the data sources. Is the gameday pitch analysis done by sight or through an algorithm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great analysis dave. It is really important we can cross reference the data sources. Is the gameday pitch analysis done by sight or through an algorithm</p>
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