Comments on: Is Johnny Cueto Hurt? http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/is-johnny-cueto-hurt/ Daily baseball statistical analysis and commentary Sun, 12 Feb 2012 19:52:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: JL http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/is-johnny-cueto-hurt/#comment-84081 JL Thu, 09 Jul 2009 04:02:36 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=6400#comment-84081 I haven't seen him pitch, but I was expecting some regression at some point. So I don't really think he's hurt--just experiencing some proverbial recoil. At least I hope that's the case, since he's a cheap keeper in my NL-only league. I haven’t seen him pitch, but I was expecting some regression at some point. So I don’t really think he’s hurt–just experiencing some proverbial recoil. At least I hope that’s the case, since he’s a cheap keeper in my NL-only league.

]]> By: Bill http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/is-johnny-cueto-hurt/#comment-83864 Bill Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:14:01 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=6400#comment-83864 Cueto looked hurt in that inning, definitely. Cueto looked hurt in that inning, definitely.

]]> By: WAL http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/is-johnny-cueto-hurt/#comment-83860 WAL Wed, 08 Jul 2009 13:55:02 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=6400#comment-83860 Yes. Whether he is actually hurt or not, it seems the trend is that pitchers who "suddenly" have terrible outings hit the DL (Wang) or go to AAA ( Nolasco). Not saying Cueto's problems are similar to those two guys', but if he puts up another terrible outing like yesterday's he'll probably go away for awhile. Also: "he’s not M.C. Escher when it comes to painting the corners." Hilarious. Yes. Whether he is actually hurt or not, it seems the trend is that pitchers who “suddenly” have terrible outings hit the DL (Wang) or go to AAA ( Nolasco). Not saying Cueto’s problems are similar to those two guys’, but if he puts up another terrible outing like yesterday’s he’ll probably go away for awhile.

Also: “he’s not M.C. Escher when it comes to painting the corners.” Hilarious.

]]> By: Andy S http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/is-johnny-cueto-hurt/#comment-83856 Andy S Wed, 08 Jul 2009 13:18:58 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=6400#comment-83856 I feel like Kevin Millwood is the great cautionary tale regarding sample sizes. I feel like Kevin Millwood is the great cautionary tale regarding sample sizes.

]]> By: Lucid Judas http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/is-johnny-cueto-hurt/#comment-83830 Lucid Judas Wed, 08 Jul 2009 01:12:49 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=6400#comment-83830 When I checked the Reds team ERA-FIP a few days ago they were running a negative value. Even after that 22 run shellacking they still run a -.44. I'm still wet behind the ears when it comes to understanding what conclusions you can draw from these stats but I would guess it means that the Reds are an excellent defensive squad that tend to make their pitchers look good. If that is true, would it stand to reason that Cueto's control issues were not revealed in his BB/9 rate because his O-Contact% was 10% higher than league average? There is little reason to take a walk if his junk is sexy enough to swing at regardless of it's location. It seems to me that the defense was able to cover this up for a month before the levy broke last night. When did he get injured? I'll take a stab in the dark and guess that when he shook Hank Aaron's hand before the Civil Rights Game against the White Sox it ruined his arm. Later that night he gave up 3 HR, 5RBI over the 4th and 5th innings before he was pulled. Eric Harris was recommending he was a sell high at the end of May due to a BABIP around .260, HR/FB% half the norm and a LOB% in the 80's. Is there a chance that he's just been really lucky all year? If so, this would be a great cautionary tale regarding sample sizes. When I checked the Reds team ERA-FIP a few days ago they were running a negative value. Even after that 22 run shellacking they still run a -.44. I’m still wet behind the ears when it comes to understanding what conclusions you can draw from these stats but I would guess it means that the Reds are an excellent defensive squad that tend to make their pitchers look good.

If that is true, would it stand to reason that Cueto’s control issues were not revealed in his BB/9 rate because his O-Contact% was 10% higher than league average? There is little reason to take a walk if his junk is sexy enough to swing at regardless of it’s location. It seems to me that the defense was able to cover this up for a month before the levy broke last night.

When did he get injured? I’ll take a stab in the dark and guess that when he shook Hank Aaron’s hand before the Civil Rights Game against the White Sox it ruined his arm. Later that night he gave up 3 HR, 5RBI over the 4th and 5th innings before he was pulled.

Eric Harris was recommending he was a sell high at the end of May due to a BABIP around .260, HR/FB% half the norm and a LOB% in the 80′s.

Is there a chance that he’s just been really lucky all year? If so, this would be a great cautionary tale regarding sample sizes.

]]> By: Tim http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/is-johnny-cueto-hurt/#comment-83828 Tim Wed, 08 Jul 2009 01:01:10 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=6400#comment-83828 Whenever a player doesn't do good he is hurt now? Whenever a player doesn’t do good he is hurt now?

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