Comments on: Juan Pierre Is Not Hot

By: wobatus

wobatus — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 14:33:19 +0000

ha ha, Ethier said screw you Wobatus, I saw what you posted on fangraphs, take that, homer off lefty Vargas, 3 homer game, booyah!

By: Gee

Gee — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 23:29:27 +0000

How was that guy a GM for a major league baseball team?

By: Big Oil

Big Oil — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:28:20 +0000

I wholeheartedly agree.

By: scott

scott — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:11:49 +0000

Steve Phillips is an idiot who was run out of baseball. The evil 4letter loves to throw $ at these types! Pierre is terrible and deserves to be shipped off to the “chucks” up north by a body of water. Welcome back Rammy.

By: Paul

Paul — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:42:42 +0000

and let’s not forget the Dodgers snatched Pierre away from the Giants at the last minute by enticing him with a 5-year deal (I thing we were offering 3). Saved us from ourselves on that one.

By: NBH

NBH — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:24:13 +0000

On his podcast, Matthew Berry (the Talented Mr. Roto) didn’t know what FIP meant. I’ve only been playing fantasy baseball since 2008 and even I know what that is.

By: wobatus

wobatus — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:10:04 +0000

also, if you exclude last year for Pierre (he was hurt part of the year), his war per year since 2003 averaged 2.8, versus Ethier’s 2.4 last 3 years (and of course ethier didn’t play every day that whole time). This year he is 1.5 to zero. Now, I don’t actually believe his d makes up as much difference as this suggests, certainly not in cf. And I prefer Ethier myself. But you can make the case for platooning them, and using Pierre to spot the other guys sometimes as well. They have the lead and can rest guys anyway. keep them fresh and Pierre sharp.

By: wobatus

wobatus — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:54:28 +0000

Andre Ethier isn’t hot either.

Since June 10 he has gone .174/.296/.239, with an admittedly low babip.

And yes, that isa very small sample size. kinda like Pierre’s June.

And Pierre’s 2009 is small compared to his career.

But consider: Pierre’s line against lefties this year. .365/.444/.460. Ethier-.188/.286/.363.

Again, small samples. last 3 years against lefties, Pierre .297/.341.344, Ethier .281/.335/.401. Pierre usually doesn’t have much platoon split, and he does seem healthier this year. And he has had mildly productive healthy seasons in the past.

Pierre isn’t a stathead’s dream. But his WAR this year is 1.5. Ethier’s is 0. Ethier is not a great rightfielder. Pierre is ok in left, mediocre in center somewhat.

Ethier in right and manny in left is not a pitcher’s dream from a fielding standpoint.

You can see where I am driving this, and I might not agree with the choice either, but I bet Pierre plays against lefties and Etheir sits unless a deal is made. I can see Torre doing that. And Pierre occasionally spelling Kemp as well, and Manny even.

And no, I am a Met fan and don’t want him patrolling Citi’s vast expanses. But given LA’s lead I don’t see why they wouldn’t rest players. I wouldn’t see Pierre getting 1/4th the 3 of position at bats, but a few less than that. Sure, Ethier is a better player, but not exactly a world beater against lefties.

By: Nate

Nate — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:16:01 +0000

Harold Reynolds seems like a likeable guy I suppose. However, he wrote this, which may be the single worse piece of sports journalism I’ve ever read:

http://haroldreynolds.mlblogs.com/archives/2009/06/enjoy_it_for_what_its_worth.html

By: Jason T

Jason T — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 12:58:12 +0000

So, we’re in consensus about BBTN and Herr Phillips. How do we feel about Mr. Reynolds + crew on the MLB Network. To me, they seem to certainly be more listenable and not as…stupid? Though Harold is getting mighty close to the ‘get off my lawn!’ part of his post-baseball life.

Great article, Dave. I knew Pierre season had that bs smell to it, but I hadn’t realized he’d been playing so poorly the last month too.