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	<title>Comments on: Juan Pierre on the South Side</title>
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		<title>By: CircleChange11</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/juan-pierre-on-the-south-side/#comment-115233</link>
		<dc:creator>CircleChange11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 22:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry divakar. I thought you were using your projections. I don;t why I came away with that impression. I inferred something in the post that may not have been there.

My apology to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry divakar. I thought you were using your projections. I don;t why I came away with that impression. I inferred something in the post that may not have been there.</p>
<p>My apology to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Joey</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/juan-pierre-on-the-south-side/#comment-115149</link>
		<dc:creator>Joey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 06:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“The Sox are trying to build a team similar to 2005 when they won the world series&quot;

Actually, it seems as if the Sox are trying to build a team of Ozzie Guillen&#039;s on offense. Horrible to poor OBP, zero to questionable power, fast but reckless on the basepaths.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“The Sox are trying to build a team similar to 2005 when they won the world series&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually, it seems as if the Sox are trying to build a team of Ozzie Guillen&#8217;s on offense. Horrible to poor OBP, zero to questionable power, fast but reckless on the basepaths.</p>
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		<title>By: Joey</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/juan-pierre-on-the-south-side/#comment-115146</link>
		<dc:creator>Joey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 06:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh wait till you see Pierre then  :D

If you have never read it, it is well worth it. Very funny - and true

http://hirejimessian.com/2007/05/29/10-you-make-me-juan-to-puke-pierre/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh wait till you see Pierre then  :D</p>
<p>If you have never read it, it is well worth it. Very funny &#8211; and true</p>
<p><a href="http://hirejimessian.com/2007/05/29/10-you-make-me-juan-to-puke-pierre/" rel="nofollow">http://hirejimessian.com/2007/05/29/10-you-make-me-juan-to-puke-pierre/</a></p>
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		<title>By: divakar</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/juan-pierre-on-the-south-side/#comment-115050</link>
		<dc:creator>divakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 22:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey tough guy - I don&#039;t know how you got to the end of my post without reading the first line where I said:

&quot;Without delving into pitching (a strength) and defense (umm…)&quot;

So, I actually agree with you that pitching is a strength. I wasn&#039;t SKEWING anything - just presenting something that seems less than praise-worthy.

When did I say KW didn&#039;t qualify as a GM? I just don&#039;t think we should go around giving him handjobs for adding Juan Pierre to the team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey tough guy &#8211; I don&#8217;t know how you got to the end of my post without reading the first line where I said:</p>
<p>&#8220;Without delving into pitching (a strength) and defense (umm…)&#8221;</p>
<p>So, I actually agree with you that pitching is a strength. I wasn&#8217;t SKEWING anything &#8211; just presenting something that seems less than praise-worthy.</p>
<p>When did I say KW didn&#8217;t qualify as a GM? I just don&#8217;t think we should go around giving him handjobs for adding Juan Pierre to the team.</p>
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		<title>By: divakar</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/juan-pierre-on-the-south-side/#comment-115043</link>
		<dc:creator>divakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 22:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i wasn&#039;t projecting Rios&#039; OPS. That was his OPS from last year.

So, what ARE you getting at?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i wasn&#8217;t projecting Rios&#8217; OPS. That was his OPS from last year.</p>
<p>So, what ARE you getting at?</p>
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		<title>By: CircleChange11</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/juan-pierre-on-the-south-side/#comment-114752</link>
		<dc:creator>CircleChange11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 00:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the time of my comment, just based on my gut after looking up MIN batting stats in the thread where I compared the strength of MIN lineup v. DET (and the rest of the &quot;MVP Contenders&quot;). Namely, MIN had 4 guys go (approximatly, at least) .280-30-100, and I didn&#039;t see that happening again.

So, I just looked up the 5 main guys in MIN lineup: Spahn, Mauer, Cuddyer, Kubel, and Morneau.

My main feeling was that Cuddyer and Kubel would NOT have .275-.285 - 30 - 100 seasons again, and that Mauer would perform slightly less than he did in 09.

I looked up each guy here, and the fans projections seem to agree with them projecting that only Spahn and Morneau would increase their performance, with the other three experiencing a drop-off, Mauer slightly, and Cud and Kub to a significant degree.

When I say &quot;decline a bit&quot;, in my mind I am talking about something in the 2-3 WAR less (as a team) than &#039;09, giving them a possible 7-8 WAR edge over CWS (instead of the 10 WAR edge in 09).

What I was thinking is that CWS would close the gap a little from the 10 WAR difference in OFF btw MIN and CWS in 09, and the diff between pitching WAR of MIN v CWS, would put them rougly even, with MIN having a slight lead in &quot;chances for division title&quot; (chalk it up to intangibles or &quot;other&quot;, if you will). CWS were 6 WAR better than MIN and DET in pitching in &#039;09, and with Peavy returning, I figured that would equate to a 6-8 WAR edge to CWS.

My overall point was that CWS, with an improved team, have a decent shot at the ALC title.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the time of my comment, just based on my gut after looking up MIN batting stats in the thread where I compared the strength of MIN lineup v. DET (and the rest of the &#8220;MVP Contenders&#8221;). Namely, MIN had 4 guys go (approximatly, at least) .280-30-100, and I didn&#8217;t see that happening again.</p>
<p>So, I just looked up the 5 main guys in MIN lineup: Spahn, Mauer, Cuddyer, Kubel, and Morneau.</p>
<p>My main feeling was that Cuddyer and Kubel would NOT have .275-.285 &#8211; 30 &#8211; 100 seasons again, and that Mauer would perform slightly less than he did in 09.</p>
<p>I looked up each guy here, and the fans projections seem to agree with them projecting that only Spahn and Morneau would increase their performance, with the other three experiencing a drop-off, Mauer slightly, and Cud and Kub to a significant degree.</p>
<p>When I say &#8220;decline a bit&#8221;, in my mind I am talking about something in the 2-3 WAR less (as a team) than &#8217;09, giving them a possible 7-8 WAR edge over CWS (instead of the 10 WAR edge in 09).</p>
<p>What I was thinking is that CWS would close the gap a little from the 10 WAR difference in OFF btw MIN and CWS in 09, and the diff between pitching WAR of MIN v CWS, would put them rougly even, with MIN having a slight lead in &#8220;chances for division title&#8221; (chalk it up to intangibles or &#8220;other&#8221;, if you will). CWS were 6 WAR better than MIN and DET in pitching in &#8217;09, and with Peavy returning, I figured that would equate to a 6-8 WAR edge to CWS.</p>
<p>My overall point was that CWS, with an improved team, have a decent shot at the ALC title.</p>
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		<title>By: Andres</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/juan-pierre-on-the-south-side/#comment-114699</link>
		<dc:creator>Andres</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The prospects the sox gave up are bad.  Ely is a soft tossing right hander that doesn&#039;t miss bats.  The Sox didn&#039;t even protect him from the rule 5 draft.

Link is Bullpen fodder at best and walks too many batters.

So, the sox gave up to mediocre pitching prospects and got 10.5 million dollars and Juan Pierre.  If the &quot;badness&quot; of this trade is giving at bats to Juan Pierre, its certainly better than rolling the dice with Pods and hoping he stays 1. healthy and 2. not terrible.   Also, not having Pods picked off 2nd and 3rd all the time helps too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The prospects the sox gave up are bad.  Ely is a soft tossing right hander that doesn&#8217;t miss bats.  The Sox didn&#8217;t even protect him from the rule 5 draft.</p>
<p>Link is Bullpen fodder at best and walks too many batters.</p>
<p>So, the sox gave up to mediocre pitching prospects and got 10.5 million dollars and Juan Pierre.  If the &#8220;badness&#8221; of this trade is giving at bats to Juan Pierre, its certainly better than rolling the dice with Pods and hoping he stays 1. healthy and 2. not terrible.   Also, not having Pods picked off 2nd and 3rd all the time helps too.</p>
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		<title>By: twinsfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>twinsfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;and I don’t see MIN’s offense reproducing this year’s performance&lt;/i&gt;

Based upon?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>and I don’t see MIN’s offense reproducing this year’s performance</i></p>
<p>Based upon?</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/juan-pierre-on-the-south-side/#comment-114655</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the correction and the explanation!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the correction and the explanation!</p>
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		<title>By: BX</title>
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		<dc:creator>BX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 14:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I could see Thome coming back. There&#039;s too many DHs on the market for KW not to grab a DH on the cheap. 

Or I could see KW moving Konerko to DH (where he belongs) and targeting a 1B (Adrian Gonzalez...haha, I kid, someone like Nick Johnson is more likely).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I could see Thome coming back. There&#8217;s too many DHs on the market for KW not to grab a DH on the cheap. </p>
<p>Or I could see KW moving Konerko to DH (where he belongs) and targeting a 1B (Adrian Gonzalez&#8230;haha, I kid, someone like Nick Johnson is more likely).</p>
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