Comments on: Lackey Proves He’s Just Fine http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/lackey-proves-hes-just-fine/ Daily baseball statistical analysis and commentary Sun, 12 Feb 2012 21:26:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Bhaakon http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/lackey-proves-hes-just-fine/#comment-96911 Bhaakon Mon, 14 Sep 2009 08:38:11 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=9328#comment-96911 It's fine case, but I don't see what it has to do with the original poster's point. He never said "Burnett's worth his contract but I wouldn't give that much to Lackey," he just said that he wouldn't give Lackey a Burnett-sized deal. He could mean that Burnett's worth more than Lackey (which, as you've pointed out, is simply incorrect), but, giving him the benefit of the doubt, he could also mean that neither is worth that much, that the market has changed since the Burnett deal, that the majority of teams have less leeway in their payroll and would weigh injury risk more heavily than the Yanks, some combination of those three, or something I didn't think of. It’s fine case, but I don’t see what it has to do with the original poster’s point. He never said “Burnett’s worth his contract but I wouldn’t give that much to Lackey,” he just said that he wouldn’t give Lackey a Burnett-sized deal. He could mean that Burnett’s worth more than Lackey (which, as you’ve pointed out, is simply incorrect), but, giving him the benefit of the doubt, he could also mean that neither is worth that much, that the market has changed since the Burnett deal, that the majority of teams have less leeway in their payroll and would weigh injury risk more heavily than the Yanks, some combination of those three, or something I didn’t think of.

]]> By: Jason H http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/lackey-proves-hes-just-fine/#comment-96887 Jason H Mon, 14 Sep 2009 02:33:25 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=9328#comment-96887 This makes way too much sense. I wouldn't expect a response. This makes way too much sense. I wouldn’t expect a response.

]]> By: The Joe From 1993 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/lackey-proves-hes-just-fine/#comment-96886 The Joe From 1993 Mon, 14 Sep 2009 02:29:59 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=9328#comment-96886 "I wouldn’t woo him anything close to what the Yankees did for Burnett." Really? Seriously? A.J. Burnett is a pitcher in his 30s (one year older than Lackey) with a much worse injury history than Lackey. In 2008 Burnett managed to throw 200+ innings for only the 3rd time in his career, the previous times being in 2002 and 2005. Burnett's career FIP is 3.84. Lackey's career FIP is 3.82 Since 2002 Burnett is a 26.7 WAR pitcher. Since 2002 Lackey is a 31.1 WAR pitcher. How is Burnett worth the risk, but Lackey is not? “I wouldn’t woo him anything close to what the Yankees did for Burnett.”

Really? Seriously?

A.J. Burnett is a pitcher in his 30s (one year older than Lackey) with a much worse injury history than Lackey. In 2008 Burnett managed to throw 200+ innings for only the 3rd time in his career, the previous times being in 2002 and 2005.

Burnett’s career FIP is 3.84. Lackey’s career FIP is 3.82

Since 2002 Burnett is a 26.7 WAR pitcher. Since 2002 Lackey is a 31.1 WAR pitcher.

How is Burnett worth the risk, but Lackey is not?

]]> By: Mark http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/lackey-proves-hes-just-fine/#comment-96872 Mark Mon, 14 Sep 2009 01:22:19 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=9328#comment-96872 As a baseball fan, I wouldn't want my team to give John Lackey that big payday this offseason. In his 30s and with those two DL stints in two years he doesn't exactly excite me. Contract years have a way of bringing out the best in everyone, but when he gets his money there won't be a reason to stay in shape. Given his physical problems the past couple of years and the term 6-pack is more applicable to a beer belly than a strong belly I wouldn't woo him anything close to what the Yankees did for Burnett. As a baseball fan, I wouldn’t want my team to give John Lackey that big payday this offseason. In his 30s and with those two DL stints in two years he doesn’t exactly excite me. Contract years have a way of bringing out the best in everyone, but when he gets his money there won’t be a reason to stay in shape. Given his physical problems the past couple of years and the term 6-pack is more applicable to a beer belly than a strong belly I wouldn’t woo him anything close to what the Yankees did for Burnett.

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