Comments on: Learning From Week One http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/learning-from-week-one/ Daily baseball statistical analysis and commentary Sun, 12 Feb 2012 20:36:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Preston http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/learning-from-week-one/#comment-71867 Preston Tue, 14 Apr 2009 06:46:10 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=4238#comment-71867 In the first week in 2006, Chris Shelton hit 5 homers, 3 doubles, and 2 triples for a .536/.567/1.321 line. While I agree that star players are certainly more likely to have weeks like this, it's still one week, and it is ridiculous to say that anyone is a player to build dynasties around based on one week of play. Longoria may very well be that caliber of player , but we shouldn't be rushing to that conclusion based on his stats so far. In the first week in 2006, Chris Shelton hit 5 homers, 3 doubles, and 2 triples for a .536/.567/1.321 line. While I agree that star players are certainly more likely to have weeks like this, it’s still one week, and it is ridiculous to say that anyone is a player to build dynasties around based on one week of play. Longoria may very well be that caliber of player , but we shouldn’t be rushing to that conclusion based on his stats so far.

]]> By: JH http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/learning-from-week-one/#comment-71850 JH Tue, 14 Apr 2009 02:42:22 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=4238#comment-71850 He knows. He knows.

]]> By: vivaelpujols http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/learning-from-week-one/#comment-71843 vivaelpujols Tue, 14 Apr 2009 01:12:48 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=4238#comment-71843 you can't make any inference from 1 weeks worth of UZR data. Even ignoring all of the noise due to possible errors, 1 week of UZR is like 15 at bats for a hitter. The sample size is just too small. you can’t make any inference from 1 weeks worth of UZR data. Even ignoring all of the noise due to possible errors, 1 week of UZR is like 15 at bats for a hitter. The sample size is just too small.

]]> By: Nacho http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/learning-from-week-one/#comment-71832 Nacho Mon, 13 Apr 2009 23:39:52 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=4238#comment-71832 Bedard, or any other pitcher, doing well for 13 IP is not proof that they are fine NOW. 15K/13IP is pretty strong positive indicator, but nothing more. It is very possible to pitch great (especially for such a short period of time), while HURT, and in the process make something worse or hurt something else compensating. With such a small sample stats just can't tell us if he is healthy. Bedard, or any other pitcher, doing well for 13 IP is not proof that they are fine NOW. 15K/13IP is pretty strong positive indicator, but nothing more. It is very possible to pitch great (especially for such a short period of time), while HURT, and in the process make something worse or hurt something else compensating. With such a small sample stats just can’t tell us if he is healthy.

]]> By: Tom Au http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/learning-from-week-one/#comment-71807 Tom Au Mon, 13 Apr 2009 21:28:51 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=4238#comment-71807 It;'s still early to say (4-3 after seven games) but the Pirates look like they'll at least be decent this year. More to the point, as I earlier thought, their pitching has probably stablized (six quality starts out of seven) with hitting being the question mark. Oh, for Jason Bay and and even Jose Bautista, both of which we could have had this year. It;’s still early to say (4-3 after seven games) but the Pirates look like they’ll at least be decent this year. More to the point, as I earlier thought, their pitching has probably stablized (six quality starts out of seven) with hitting being the question mark. Oh, for Jason Bay and and even Jose Bautista, both of which we could have had this year.

]]> By: BrettJMiller http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/learning-from-week-one/#comment-71804 BrettJMiller Mon, 13 Apr 2009 21:20:23 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=4238#comment-71804 Wally-- The point is, as of RIGHT NOW he is completely healthy. We KNOW he is fragile and could get injured tomorrow while walking from one end of the dugot to the other. He's pitched 13 IP and we can tell that he has been healthy for said 13 innings. Based on his command and velocity, he is healthy as of this moment. That is all Dave's saying. Not that he's going to be healthy in 2 hours. Wally–

The point is, as of RIGHT NOW he is completely healthy. We KNOW he is fragile and could get injured tomorrow while walking from one end of the dugot to the other. He’s pitched 13 IP and we can tell that he has been healthy for said 13 innings. Based on his command and velocity, he is healthy as of this moment. That is all Dave’s saying. Not that he’s going to be healthy in 2 hours.

]]> By: Nick http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/learning-from-week-one/#comment-71803 Nick Mon, 13 Apr 2009 21:00:26 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=4238#comment-71803 Oh and that Pujols guy is still pretty good as well. Oh and that Pujols guy is still pretty good as well.

]]> By: Brian http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/learning-from-week-one/#comment-71799 Brian Mon, 13 Apr 2009 20:08:41 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=4238#comment-71799 While Gutierrez and Chavez are 2nd and 3rd in UZR/150, it's interesting to note that #1 is Daniel Murphy who will be remembered this week not for his stellar defensive play overall, but for a single defensive miscue. While Gutierrez and Chavez are 2nd and 3rd in UZR/150, it’s interesting to note that #1 is Daniel Murphy who will be remembered this week not for his stellar defensive play overall, but for a single defensive miscue.

]]> By: JH http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/learning-from-week-one/#comment-71797 JH Mon, 13 Apr 2009 20:00:43 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=4238#comment-71797 First, Dave didn't say the Rays will be a dynasty. He said Longoria's the type of player you can build a dynasty around. Second, 2010 is when a couple of guys on the wrong side of 30 and one of the team's lesser stars walk away. After that, they still have Kazmir, Garza, Longoria, Upton, Aybar, Shields, Sonnanstine, Howell, Bartlett, Joyce, Navarro, and others locked up. But yeah, the point had nothing to do with the Rays. The point is that Evan Longoria is really freakin' good. If he blossoms into the 8-10 WAR player he looks like he could become, that gives Friedman a whole lot less he has to do to elevate the team to contender status year after year. Particularly if Upton continues developing into a 5-6 WAR guy himself. First, Dave didn’t say the Rays will be a dynasty. He said Longoria’s the type of player you can build a dynasty around.

Second, 2010 is when a couple of guys on the wrong side of 30 and one of the team’s lesser stars walk away. After that, they still have Kazmir, Garza, Longoria, Upton, Aybar, Shields, Sonnanstine, Howell, Bartlett, Joyce, Navarro, and others locked up.

But yeah, the point had nothing to do with the Rays. The point is that Evan Longoria is really freakin’ good. If he blossoms into the 8-10 WAR player he looks like he could become, that gives Friedman a whole lot less he has to do to elevate the team to contender status year after year. Particularly if Upton continues developing into a 5-6 WAR guy himself.

]]> By: james http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/learning-from-week-one/#comment-71796 james Mon, 13 Apr 2009 19:44:05 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=4238#comment-71796 To be fair to Dave, he didn't necessarily say the Rays are going to be a dynasty, just that Longoria is the type of player to build a dynasty around. At least to me there's a distinction there. To be fair to Dave, he didn’t necessarily say the Rays are going to be a dynasty, just that Longoria is the type of player to build a dynasty around. At least to me there’s a distinction there.

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