Comments on: Omar Vizquel to the South Side http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/omar-vizquel-to-the-south-side/ Daily baseball statistical analysis and commentary Mon, 13 Feb 2012 00:21:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: lazlo_toth http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/omar-vizquel-to-the-south-side/#comment-111199 lazlo_toth Fri, 04 Dec 2009 01:21:34 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=11875#comment-111199 I don't think anyone's questioning Omar's best days are behind him. I'm a longtime Tribe fan and I think as soon as he retires, the Indians need to hang #13 up in Progressive Field (somebody from those World Series teams in the 90s should go up there, and I can't see them doing it for Belle, Manny or Thome). I love Omar. But I'm tempted to chalk this up as another questionable roster move by the White Sox, just like I thought acquiring Griffey was. But Vizquel is not the defensive liability that Griffey's become, and he's probably still got better game at 43 than a lot of guys in MLB who are 10 or 15 years younger. As a part-time player/defensive replacement, he's still got value. I don’t think anyone’s questioning Omar’s best days are behind him. I’m a longtime Tribe fan and I think as soon as he retires, the Indians need to hang #13 up in Progressive Field (somebody from those World Series teams in the 90s should go up there, and I can’t see them doing it for Belle, Manny or Thome). I love Omar. But I’m tempted to chalk this up as another questionable roster move by the White Sox, just like I thought acquiring Griffey was. But Vizquel is not the defensive liability that Griffey’s become, and he’s probably still got better game at 43 than a lot of guys in MLB who are 10 or 15 years younger. As a part-time player/defensive replacement, he’s still got value.

]]> By: Terry http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/omar-vizquel-to-the-south-side/#comment-109684 Terry Tue, 24 Nov 2009 06:07:39 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=11875#comment-109684 Yes please don't pimp your site because you are obviously clueless. Yes please don’t pimp your site because you are obviously clueless.

]]> By: Choo http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/omar-vizquel-to-the-south-side/#comment-109579 Choo Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:19:21 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=11875#comment-109579 I agree on all accounts. Padman, where on earth did you find UZR figures that illustrate Alexei’s defense at SS being 2 runs worse than 2B? I agree on all accounts. Padman, where on earth did you find UZR figures that illustrate Alexei’s defense at SS being 2 runs worse than 2B?

]]> By: sunn0))) http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/omar-vizquel-to-the-south-side/#comment-109555 sunn0))) Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:22:17 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=11875#comment-109555 1) Alexei is a plus SS per UZR and Dewan. 2) Vizquel is obviously no longer a starter (especially in the AL). His role will be defensive replacement and teacher/mentor for Beckham and Ramirez. 3) It's idiotic to speculate whether Beckham is better at 2B or SS when he has player zero inning at either position at the ML level. 4) Teahen may well end up playing in the OF or 1B (is, say Konerko is moved) 5) Vizquel is a pretty decent value for $1.3M. 1) Alexei is a plus SS per UZR and Dewan.
2) Vizquel is obviously no longer a starter (especially in the AL). His role
will be defensive replacement and teacher/mentor for Beckham and
Ramirez.
3) It’s idiotic to speculate whether Beckham is better at 2B or SS when he has
player zero inning at either position at the ML level.
4) Teahen may well end up playing in the OF or 1B (is, say Konerko is moved)
5) Vizquel is a pretty decent value for $1.3M.

]]> By: Padman Jones http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/omar-vizquel-to-the-south-side/#comment-109480 Padman Jones Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:01:31 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=11875#comment-109480 I don't entirely mean to pimp my own site, but I wrote about this a couple days ago and came up with rather the opposite conclusion. Vizquel's a good defender, sure, but he doesn't seem particularly better than Adam Everett - and he's 10 years older. And also I think that the options to which you refer are more a function of poor roster management on the Sox' part - they're leaving a guy at short who can't handle the position defensively, and shifting a guy who can (Beckham) to second. They're going to be stuck with subpar bats on the entire left side of the field, and are hamstringing their defense there as well. They need more depth, since they don't have any plus options except for Beckham. http://mlbnotebook.com/2009-articles/november/what-are-the-white-sox-thinking.html for a more in-depth look. I don’t entirely mean to pimp my own site, but I wrote about this a couple days ago and came up with rather the opposite conclusion. Vizquel’s a good defender, sure, but he doesn’t seem particularly better than Adam Everett – and he’s 10 years older. And also I think that the options to which you refer are more a function of poor roster management on the Sox’ part – they’re leaving a guy at short who can’t handle the position defensively, and shifting a guy who can (Beckham) to second. They’re going to be stuck with subpar bats on the entire left side of the field, and are hamstringing their defense there as well. They need more depth, since they don’t have any plus options except for Beckham.

http://mlbnotebook.com/2009-articles/november/what-are-the-white-sox-thinking.html for a more in-depth look.

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