One-for-One Swaps at the Same Position
Buster Olney’s Ryan Howard for Albert Pujols article has made its rounds and received its share of ridicule. Countless writers have wondered why St. Louis would consider such a swap, beyond the hometown factor Olney raised in the article. There’s no need to rehash the idea or any of the ensuing mockery. The article did make me wonder, though, about the viability of one-for-one, same position trades. Would there be any circumstances under which one would make sense? It would certainly take extenuating circumstances, and likely would take other players to balance the trade on one side. But, forgetting reality for a moment, here are three of the matches I came up with. As you’ll see, none stands a real chance of happening.
Prince Fielder for Kendry Morales
Though he’s only signed through this year, Prince Fielder has one year left of arbitration before he hits free agency. That year could get expensive, as he’s already making $10.5 million in 2010. Another season like his past two could move him in the $15 million range. The Brewers can probably afford this, but they have to think about the team’s future. What happens when Prince skips town and signs with the highest bidder?
Kendry Morales is coming off a breakout year for the Angels. After years of bouncing between AAA and the majors, he hit his stride, and figures to be a switch hitting power for years to come. Good as he is, though, he’s no Prince Fielder. The Angels would likely welcome the upgrade, as it would give them the left-handed bat they’ve sought for years. Too bad it would come after Vladimir Guerrero left town. In exchange for the superior player, the Brewers would get four years of Morales, the first of which at just $700K. His three arbitration years might get expensive, but probably not to Prince’s level.
The Angels have been a shrewd franchise, having let both John Lackey and Chone Figgins leave over the winter without much of a fight. Would they turn around, then, and take on not only a $10.5 million salary for 2010, but perhaps another $15 million for 2011? They do have the money. On the Brewers’ end, would they trade one of their two mid-lineup thumpers to save some money? If they’re going to lose Prince anyway, shouldn’t they try to get the best possible replacement?
Brian Roberts for Scott Sizemore
In the mid-2000s, Brian Roberts was the darling of the Orioles organization. Owner Peter Angelos loves him, and rewarded him last winter with a four-year, $40 million extension. He could still be around, then, if the Orioles make a Rays-esque run in 2011 or 2012. The Orioles might like his veteran presence, but they’d also probably like a young, promising second baseman who would fit among their other young players.
It appears Scott Sizemore, after dominating each level of the minors he faced, will get a shot to start for the Tigers this year. Detroit could again contend for the AL Central title, but will need all the help on offense it can get. Right now that means placing faith in a youngster with a solid minor league track record. But what if it could mean a veteran second baseman who has posted a .356 or better wOBA in four of the last five years, and in all of the last three? It would provide Detroit with a solid option at the keystone.
Detroit, however, worked hard this off-season to keep future payroll in check, so adding an additional $10 million per season for the next four doesn’t really fit with their M.O. Baltimore would probably like the trade in theory, but in practice it’s probably tough to trade the most recognizable player on the team, who also just signed his extension last winter.
Scott Rolen for Brandon Wood
Again we turn back to the Angels, who have a big question mark at third base. Over the past few years Brandon Wood has been on the shuttle between AAA and the majors, though he hasn’t had much success in the bigs. He has accumulated 224 plate appearances over three short stints, amassing a putrid wOBA of .255. He’s slated to start for the Angels at third, and while they still like his potential — he posted .405 and .387 wOBA in AAA in the past two years — they can’t like the uncertainty he brings.
If everything falls in its right place for the Reds, they might have a shot to contend in the NL Central. This means a bounceback season from Aaron Harang, a full good season from Bronson Arroyo, a step forward for Johnny Cueto, and probably a full and speedy recovery from Edinson Volquez. And that doesn’t go into the offense, which certainly needs its share of breaks. Strangely mixed among their young regular is Scott Rolen, acquired at the trade deadline last year from Toronto. Might the Reds enjoy the salary relief, along with the young talent, they’d receive by trading him?
Then again, the way the Reds reworked Rolen’s deal this winter makes him a bit more affordable. He’ll make $6 million this season (his $11 million 2010 salary minus the $5 million that was converted into a signing bonus), followed by $6.5 million in 2011 and the same in 2012. Wood will make a fraction of that over the next few years, which would make Cincinnati more flexible to pay for talent in other spots. But, as with Morales, would the Angels be willing to part with a young, cost-controlled player for a more dependable veteran?
These types of deals just don’t happen
I spent some time going up and down major league rosters yesterday looking for possible candidates. Even when I thought I might have found one — my original Brian Roberts idea involved Skip Schumaker — it seemed completely unrealistic. Even the trades above seem barely inside a liberal realm of possibility. That makes sense, though. Would you expect a team to trade one of its incumbents, straight up, for a player of the same position? I can think of only a scant few situations where both teams would agree to such a swap. And even then, as in the Rolen deal from last summer, we often see other players involved in order to satisfy one of the teams.

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The last one for one, same position trade that comes to mind for me is Scott Rolen for Troy Glaus. Virtually identical salaries (though Rolen had 1 additional year), both were having injury issues, and both were wore then with their teams. It is rare, but does happen.
The Milledge-Hanrahan/Morgan-Burnett trade comes close — it was basically two one-for-one swaps, though Milledge was in the minors at the time. Still, yeah, it’s rare.
The model being posited is one in which a cheaper player is traded for a more expensive one, but those trades usually manifest themselves such that the team offering the cheaper player also has to give up another prospect or two (eg. Ajax for C. Granderson, in a complex 3-team trade). If you get the true 1-for-1 trade, it would seem that the most common impetus would be something like what Corey suggested above: a situation in which there are personnel issues going on.
Was there anyone else involved in the Kotchman – LaRoche trade last year? I can’t remember. Or the Kotchman – Tiexiera trade the year before, for that matter?
Not that any of those guys besides Tex are big stars.
no, but these are good examples.
The Kotchman-LaRoche one was straight up, to my recollection. The Tiexiera trade had an extra part or two though. I would hardly say that these kind of trades don’t happen. They just don’t happen with superstars, because it’s usually pretty straightforward that one player has more value than another.
This past offseason the Rays and Braves pulled this off with the Rafael Soriano for Jesse Chavez swap. A young, cheap, somewhat projectable reliever for an expensive soon-to-be free agent reliever. Nothing earth-shattering, but it did let the Braves dump some salary as they got younger while the Rays get a guy they hope can finish a ton of games this year for a playoff push.
Joe will appreciate this one: Jeff Nelson for Armando Benitez
Francoeur for Ryan Church.
Omar traded a Brain Stroke for Gary Matthews Jr.
wait, it was a player named Brian Stokes? He traded a player for GMJ??
Stokes. He’s a reliever.
Jason, you’re missing the clear sarcasm. The idea that anyone would trade a player that has some value (not a lot, but a serviceable reliever in Stokes) for GMJ is ridiculous and once again an example of the ineptitude of the Mets’ GM.
I’m noticing a trend that a lot of the recent examples seem to involve Atlanta.
Of course, this trade was a brilliant move by Frank Wren, who got something valuable out of Francoeur, who couldn’t be on the team without Bobby Cox putting him in the lineup.
I think GMs may be gun-shy on trades like this, as no one wants to be remembered as the guy who traded Rocky Colavito for Harvey Kuenn (or Ozzie Smith for Garry Templeton, or Omar Vizquel for Felix Fermin, etc.). It’s too easy to compare players and know who came out ahead in the end, and there are no excuses (“we needed someone who could play x position”) if it doesn’t work out your way.Maybe most GMs don’t think like that… but I’d bet they do.
The Red Sox did a straight up LaRoche/Kotchman swap and also a Kotsay/B. Anderson swap.
The one-for-one swap at the same position that immediately came to mind was when Frank Lane of Cleveland (the guy who traded Colavito for Kuenn) sent Joe Gordon to Detroit for Jimmy Dykes. Trading managers would usually qualify as “beyond the realm of possibility.”
I remember reading an article a few years back suggesting A-Rod for Rolen straight up. And that’s why these deals suck: Rolen was later traded for Glaus straight up, and now we’re suggesting Wood straight up. Wow.
I could understand the Prince/Kendry situation, but I agree with your statement that most of this would never happen. With the new Brewers’ ownership, I have to belive for my own sanity’s sake that they’ll try their hardest to keep Prince for another 4-5 years at least. He’ll be expensive, but with Suppan coming off the books soon (thank god) and Braun signed for relatively cheap, if you’re going to shell out some dough, give it to Prince. He may want more money than his expected WAR would suggest, but he’s the undoubted leader of the ball club, and that’s worth paying for too.