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		<title>By: Jackie Ambuehl</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/organizational-rankings-21/#comment-177536</link>
		<dc:creator>Jackie Ambuehl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 22:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi,nice pants in your post,I love that great pants,I need to find one for me,bill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi,nice pants in your post,I love that great pants,I need to find one for me,bill</p>
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		<title>By: online surveys</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/organizational-rankings-21/#comment-168839</link>
		<dc:creator>online surveys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 May 2010 02:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kdisnfdv</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kdisnfdv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 19:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JO4cRd comment2 ,</description>
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		<title>By: mlbblogg</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/organizational-rankings-21/#comment-69111</link>
		<dc:creator>mlbblogg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 04:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How you put Kansas City in front of anyone is just mind boggling. Also putting Cincy that low is pretty bad. I dont even like Cincy but when you have Cueto,Volquez,Harang,half of what Arroyo used to be,Owings,Phillips,Bruce,and Votto....you have to be higher than that</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How you put Kansas City in front of anyone is just mind boggling. Also putting Cincy that low is pretty bad. I dont even like Cincy but when you have Cueto,Volquez,Harang,half of what Arroyo used to be,Owings,Phillips,Bruce,and Votto&#8230;.you have to be higher than that</p>
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		<title>By: Pitchers Hit Eighth</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/organizational-rankings-21/#comment-68712</link>
		<dc:creator>Pitchers Hit Eighth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;He’s probably a good defender, but to say anything more than that is pretty dificult. I should probably say, Molina isn’t terrible, that was an overstatement, but he’s below average.&quot;

John Dewan disagrees.

http://sabernomics.com/sabernomics/FieldingBibleVII_Excerpt.pdf

Molina is 2nd in MLB in the last three years in runs saved at catcher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;He’s probably a good defender, but to say anything more than that is pretty dificult. I should probably say, Molina isn’t terrible, that was an overstatement, but he’s below average.&#8221;</p>
<p>John Dewan disagrees.</p>
<p><a href="http://sabernomics.com/sabernomics/FieldingBibleVII_Excerpt.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://sabernomics.com/sabernomics/FieldingBibleVII_Excerpt.pdf</a></p>
<p>Molina is 2nd in MLB in the last three years in runs saved at catcher.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, being that you guys are so obsessed with statistics and basic math you&#039;d think you&#039;d actually be good at it. 

Ownership: B- (80/100)
Front Office: C (75/100)
Major League Talent: B- (80/100)
Minor League Talent: B (85/100)

Overall: 320/400 = .80 = B-

Your math= F-

And STL at 21? Seriously?? With the best player, manager, and pitching coach in the majors? A top 5 prospect? BA&#039;s 8th rated farm system? I&#039;m going to be really interested in seeing how you Cubs homers church up their farm system. This is the type of stuff that makes the Cubs futility that much more gratifying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, being that you guys are so obsessed with statistics and basic math you&#8217;d think you&#8217;d actually be good at it. </p>
<p>Ownership: B- (80/100)<br />
Front Office: C (75/100)<br />
Major League Talent: B- (80/100)<br />
Minor League Talent: B (85/100)</p>
<p>Overall: 320/400 = .80 = B-</p>
<p>Your math= F-</p>
<p>And STL at 21? Seriously?? With the best player, manager, and pitching coach in the majors? A top 5 prospect? BA&#8217;s 8th rated farm system? I&#8217;m going to be really interested in seeing how you Cubs homers church up their farm system. This is the type of stuff that makes the Cubs futility that much more gratifying.</p>
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		<title>By: WallysAnIdiot</title>
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		<dc:creator>WallysAnIdiot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone who says Y. Molina is a below average catcher has absolutly no idea what he/she is talking about. You could pass judgement that last year was a fluke offensively, but you cannot overlook the fact that he is without a doubt in the top 2 of all catchers defensively. Whether it be throwing out runners stealing or picking runners off first,he makes his or any other team better when he is on the field. Saying that runners not running on him lowers his value is just assinine, pitchers not having to worry about the runner as much, the infield not worried about it,all of this comes into play when they are scared to run. Not to mention that he handles a pitcher and calls a game better than ANY catcher in the game bar none. If you assume that he will go back to hitting .250 you could make the argument that he is average. I think that most people when asked would take a catcher like Y. Molina over someone who hits .270 with 30hrs. I know I would.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who says Y. Molina is a below average catcher has absolutly no idea what he/she is talking about. You could pass judgement that last year was a fluke offensively, but you cannot overlook the fact that he is without a doubt in the top 2 of all catchers defensively. Whether it be throwing out runners stealing or picking runners off first,he makes his or any other team better when he is on the field. Saying that runners not running on him lowers his value is just assinine, pitchers not having to worry about the runner as much, the infield not worried about it,all of this comes into play when they are scared to run. Not to mention that he handles a pitcher and calls a game better than ANY catcher in the game bar none. If you assume that he will go back to hitting .250 you could make the argument that he is average. I think that most people when asked would take a catcher like Y. Molina over someone who hits .270 with 30hrs. I know I would.</p>
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		<title>By: vivaelpujols</title>
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		<dc:creator>vivaelpujols</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 00:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay.  The Cardinals starting OF next year, will likely be Rasmus in center, Ludwick in right and Ankiel in left.  Ludwick and Rasmus are plus, plus defenders, and Ankiel is probably above average in a corner outfield spot.  Rasmus projects as a 3 WAR player next year (given a full season of playing time) simply because he will be an average hitter, and a plus defender in center.  Ludwick was a 5 WAR player last year, and even with regression on offense, he should improve on defense (-4 UZR last year compared to +7 for his career) so that he is at least 4 WAR.  Ankiel, was a 2 WAR player last year, and that was with missing time and it was his first full year as a hitter.  You can expect some improvement on offense and defense so where he may be a 3 WAR player next year.  

There is no doubt that the Cards have on of the best outfields in the majors, and they have a ton of minor league depth in that department as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay.  The Cardinals starting OF next year, will likely be Rasmus in center, Ludwick in right and Ankiel in left.  Ludwick and Rasmus are plus, plus defenders, and Ankiel is probably above average in a corner outfield spot.  Rasmus projects as a 3 WAR player next year (given a full season of playing time) simply because he will be an average hitter, and a plus defender in center.  Ludwick was a 5 WAR player last year, and even with regression on offense, he should improve on defense (-4 UZR last year compared to +7 for his career) so that he is at least 4 WAR.  Ankiel, was a 2 WAR player last year, and that was with missing time and it was his first full year as a hitter.  You can expect some improvement on offense and defense so where he may be a 3 WAR player next year.  </p>
<p>There is no doubt that the Cards have on of the best outfields in the majors, and they have a ton of minor league depth in that department as well.</p>
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		<title>By: vivaelpujols</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 11:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being surrounded by crappy teams allows less crappy teams to make the playoffs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being surrounded by crappy teams allows less crappy teams to make the playoffs.</p>
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		<title>By: Kincaid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>2 wins is average for the stat simply because everything is calculated relative to average and then 2 wins are added for replacement level.  That&#039;s simply the nature of the stat.  It is based so that average stays at 2 wins, even if what is considered average changes.  That&#039;s not taking it as dogma, it&#039;s just that that is the stat we happen to be discussing, and that&#039;s how the stat works.

Catcher does not present a special case because the defensive numbers are still calculated as runs above average, exactly like for every other position.  You can add in the defensive values for every other catcher too.  The ones above 2 are still going to be above average and the ones below are still going to be below average.   Yadi&#039;s defense is projected at just over 10 runs above the average catcher.  Just like adding in a player&#039;s UZR for his defense.  It&#039;s calibrated so that for the group of catchers as a whole, the combined value is 0, so it won&#039;t change the value of the position as a whole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2 wins is average for the stat simply because everything is calculated relative to average and then 2 wins are added for replacement level.  That&#8217;s simply the nature of the stat.  It is based so that average stays at 2 wins, even if what is considered average changes.  That&#8217;s not taking it as dogma, it&#8217;s just that that is the stat we happen to be discussing, and that&#8217;s how the stat works.</p>
<p>Catcher does not present a special case because the defensive numbers are still calculated as runs above average, exactly like for every other position.  You can add in the defensive values for every other catcher too.  The ones above 2 are still going to be above average and the ones below are still going to be below average.   Yadi&#8217;s defense is projected at just over 10 runs above the average catcher.  Just like adding in a player&#8217;s UZR for his defense.  It&#8217;s calibrated so that for the group of catchers as a whole, the combined value is 0, so it won&#8217;t change the value of the position as a whole.</p>
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