Comments on: Organizational Rankings: #30

By: Brian

Brian — Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:18:49 +0000

Out of the AL east, and into the NL east, Cabrera will be a near shoe-in to post average MLB pitcher numbers. He played in the most homer friendly ball park in baseball over the last few seasons. He was called the team Ace and all the added pressure doesn’t help. He got poor run support which added pressure. Plus, now he plays in an average park with much lower expectations, weaker lineups that also have pitchers to face. He will get them an ERA in the mid to low 4s and pitch 200 innings as long as he stays healthy. That is a decent guy for a measly $2.5 million.

By: Nathan

Nathan — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 00:56:07 +0000

A front office is about more than just the GM. In a good front office the GM should be listening to his scouts and analysts, parsing the data, and making the final decision. Without good people under them, even the best GM won’t look like it.

By: Longgandhi

Longgandhi — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 00:00:33 +0000

I don’t recall saying that Dunn was an elite player. Perhaps you don’t have a category between “elite player and “role player”; I do – major league regular. To me, a role player is a guy who comes off the bench or provides part of a platoon and Dunn doesn’t fit that category. Did I miss the definition of “role player” in the glossary?

By: jhrekrojhf says: jhrekrojhf

jhrekrojhf says: jhrekrojhf — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 23:48:24 +0000

How about the one he just pointed out? You know, the one that ranks Dunn 123rd among position players over the last three years?

If you think UZR has been a bit too harsh on his defense you can bump him up a few dozen slots, but any way you care to slice it, Adam Dunn is not an elite player. Not even close.

By: Longgandhi

Longgandhi — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 20:51:08 +0000

So are you suggesting those numbers have no value? or that his defense in left is so bad as to negate it? It says on this site that Dunn is in the top 50 in baseball in both in RAR/150 and WPI. Top 50 doesn’t sound like a “role player” to me. Is there some other metric you’d like to point out that shows his contributions are completely average?

By: Ryan B

Ryan B — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 13:09:40 +0000

A ‘better’ analysis? Or an analysis which comes closer to what you think of this organization?

I don’t think Dave is trying to make these rankings line up with how a team is going to do this year….these are organizational rankings moving forward, not just how they might finish in 2009

By: Bill

Bill — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 12:00:33 +0000

Sorry, it took out my not equal to sign. Daniel Cabrera is not equal to a Major League level guy.

By: Bill

Bill — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 11:59:31 +0000

Daniel Cabrera Major League level guy. There’s a reason Baltimore let him go. He throws 89-93 mph with no control. Even in the NL, he will be brutal.

By: Kamau

Kamau — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 05:34:43 +0000

Like the others, I don’t get your math. And I think you’re being a bit lazy on your analysis, looking mostly at last years statisitics.

Sure the Nats had the worst record in baseball last year — which had a lot to do with miserable management and injuries. Bowden is GONE. And, for the Nats, he wasn’t necessarily a total failure as GM — we are beginning to see some of his work bear fruit.

I’m thinking you don’t agree with the projections for players like Zimmerman, Milledge, Dukes or Dunn — or the breakout potential.

Last year the rotation was a wash coming into ST — this year they at least have major league level guys fighting for positions. 3-4-5 starters, yes, but definitely major leaguers.

For what its worth, I think a better analysis will put the Nats at more like 20-25 in ranking. The season will bear this out.

By: The Typical Idiot Fan

The Typical Idiot Fan — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 04:44:36 +0000

You’re right. Who needs all this wonderful information on this site about offensive value, defensive value, and how it adds up to the total value of a player in WAR when you know the guy hits 40 home runs and OPS’s over 900?

Silly Fangraphs. Wasting your time like that with all that analysis.