Comments on: Pedroia Tabbed as AL MVP

By: Chris W

Chris W — Fri, 06 Aug 2010 11:35:22 +0000

Better yet, he was wrong…Sizemore led the league in WAR (7.1 to 6.7).

More important than “grit” in this discussion was probably playoff potential…Boston was playoff bound, Cleveland wasn’t. We seem to have mistaken MVP for “most valuable player on a playoff bound team”.

By: Joser

Joser — Tue, 27 Apr 2010 06:15:37 +0000

They’re not. “Joseph” wanders in more than 10 months after the last posted comment and makes a snide remark to an empty room. That doesn’t qualify as a “discussion.”

By: god shammgod

god shammgod — Mon, 26 Apr 2010 17:24:24 +0000

I love that people are still discussing this.

By: mattlock

mattlock — Mon, 26 Apr 2010 07:02:20 +0000

*hyperbolic.

You were close. ;)

By: Joseph

Joseph — Sun, 25 Apr 2010 10:50:42 +0000

How funny is is that Fangraphs came out with WAR like a couple weeks after this article and Pedroia led the AL in 2008. I still can’t believe Matthew basing his MVP opinion on WPA didn’t get him laughed off the site.

By: Joe R

Joe R — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 14:31:19 +0000

I expect better from this site.
Voting on WPA alone is as bad as voting on HR alone. Morneau and Pena are 1st basemen, Quentin’s a LF, of course their WPA’s will be higher than a comparable 2B. The only one with legit beef is Mauer, and for him, you can blame his own media giving Morneau up until now the star treatment over him.

Pedroia’s defense was also worth a win over average. He wasn’t a slam dunk, maybe not even the best pick, but no one was a slam dunk. Using WPA alone to evaluate is embarassing.

By: Paqs

Paqs — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:06:21 +0000

Well, taking “Value” into account, Pedroia gets a +1 win bump for his defense, and until we can quantify catcher defense, we just don’t know how much Mauer is worth.

One could certainly claim he’s worth 7 or 8 runs, which would make his overall Value greater than Pedroia’s.

By: Samg

Samg — Tue, 13 Jan 2009 02:45:48 +0000

That would be a great one.

By: Alan

Alan — Fri, 26 Dec 2008 22:09:52 +0000

Now that you added “Value” to the leaderboard statistics, you can see that it is not absurd for Pedroia to win the AL MVP. He is #2 in Value Runs in the AL. So, you can make an argument for Sizemore instead of Pedroia. Given that the Indians did not come close to making the playoffs, it isn’t unreasonable to bump Pedroia’s value a little as well.

By: Detroit Michael

Detroit Michael — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 17:39:43 +0000

Oh, and can Fangraphs.com add a “play-off slot probability added” metric sometime? Producing wins isn’t the only way to measure value. One can look at how wins contribute toward the odds of winning a play-off slot. It seems do-able given that you already track WPA.