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		<title>By: Matt B.</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/restructuring-andruw/#comment-60692</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As long as he doesn&#039;t look like CC Sabathia out there....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as he doesn&#8217;t look like CC Sabathia out there&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/restructuring-andruw/#comment-60658</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 01:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Assuming Andruw can play defensive to his 2002-2007 level this would be a great low risk high reward scenario for most teams. Andruw was worth +3.4 wins in 07 thanks to his godlike ability to play center. With him losing weight, getting his knees fixed, and maybe some motivation I can see him playing to his 07 level defensively again. Which would make him a plus player (especially for under 1 million). And this is not even factoring how much better he makes his corner outfielders defensively and the possibility of being decent with the bat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Assuming Andruw can play defensive to his 2002-2007 level this would be a great low risk high reward scenario for most teams. Andruw was worth +3.4 wins in 07 thanks to his godlike ability to play center. With him losing weight, getting his knees fixed, and maybe some motivation I can see him playing to his 07 level defensively again. Which would make him a plus player (especially for under 1 million). And this is not even factoring how much better he makes his corner outfielders defensively and the possibility of being decent with the bat.</p>
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		<title>By: obsessivegiantscompulsive</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/restructuring-andruw/#comment-59125</link>
		<dc:creator>obsessivegiantscompulsive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 22:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The restructuring totally only helps the Dodgers in reducing their total paid for 2009.  As noted above, it does not help his trade value, the Dodgers in any case would be paying almost the whole freight of his contract else the other team wouldn&#039;t trade for him.  

Like others above, I agree that he will probably not be traded.  Why bother trying to negotiate with LA for Jones when they have already announced that he&#039;s going to be released if no trade?  He was already on a downslope when LA gave him that horrendous contract (which made me happy) and the downward hockeystick on his career graph just continued in 2008.

What I don&#039;t understand is why the players association allowed this to go through.  When A-Rod tried to re-do his contract, he was willing to take less money to make the deal work (else he&#039;ll be in Boston the past many years) but the union nixed it because of what the precedence of taking less money would do.  By deferring his money into the future, Andruw is ending up with less money when you take present value into account because he accepted no interest on the deferred money.  And I know the union must know about such a concept because I&#039;ve seen discussions about how one contract had a lower net present value than another.

It is not like Andruw will gain monetarily from becoming a free agent, though the potential certainly is there if he can have a decent offensive season, and by now becoming a free agent (assuming no trade is done), he at least now has a chance to find a team willing to give him a starting job for minimum pay.  But given how poorly he has played in recent years, it certainly is not a money in the bank proposition, there is a lot of risk that he will not be able to get another contract after 2009.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The restructuring totally only helps the Dodgers in reducing their total paid for 2009.  As noted above, it does not help his trade value, the Dodgers in any case would be paying almost the whole freight of his contract else the other team wouldn&#8217;t trade for him.  </p>
<p>Like others above, I agree that he will probably not be traded.  Why bother trying to negotiate with LA for Jones when they have already announced that he&#8217;s going to be released if no trade?  He was already on a downslope when LA gave him that horrendous contract (which made me happy) and the downward hockeystick on his career graph just continued in 2008.</p>
<p>What I don&#8217;t understand is why the players association allowed this to go through.  When A-Rod tried to re-do his contract, he was willing to take less money to make the deal work (else he&#8217;ll be in Boston the past many years) but the union nixed it because of what the precedence of taking less money would do.  By deferring his money into the future, Andruw is ending up with less money when you take present value into account because he accepted no interest on the deferred money.  And I know the union must know about such a concept because I&#8217;ve seen discussions about how one contract had a lower net present value than another.</p>
<p>It is not like Andruw will gain monetarily from becoming a free agent, though the potential certainly is there if he can have a decent offensive season, and by now becoming a free agent (assuming no trade is done), he at least now has a chance to find a team willing to give him a starting job for minimum pay.  But given how poorly he has played in recent years, it certainly is not a money in the bank proposition, there is a lot of risk that he will not be able to get another contract after 2009.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael B.</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/restructuring-andruw/#comment-59102</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 20:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone noticed today&#039;s CHONE projection for Jones? It has him hitting 28 homers and driving in 87 runs this year. (Bill James and Marcel project closer to 15 and 50). CHONE has an OBP of .329, SLG at .450, and ISO at .218. His career numbers are .339, .489, and .230.

If he reaches 28 and 87 and plays above average defense, he&#039;d be a steal at $400K or even at $1M-$2M. But will he play enough to get close to those numbers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone noticed today&#8217;s CHONE projection for Jones? It has him hitting 28 homers and driving in 87 runs this year. (Bill James and Marcel project closer to 15 and 50). CHONE has an OBP of .329, SLG at .450, and ISO at .218. His career numbers are .339, .489, and .230.</p>
<p>If he reaches 28 and 87 and plays above average defense, he&#8217;d be a steal at $400K or even at $1M-$2M. But will he play enough to get close to those numbers?</p>
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		<title>By: themarksmith</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/restructuring-andruw/#comment-59093</link>
		<dc:creator>themarksmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 19:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Says the guy who didn&#039;t even capitalize his name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Says the guy who didn&#8217;t even capitalize his name.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/restructuring-andruw/#comment-59068</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 17:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Among us &#039;stat geeks&#039; I&#039;d say nearly the MOST respected IMO...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Among us &#8216;stat geeks&#8217; I&#8217;d say nearly the MOST respected IMO&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Seidman</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/restructuring-andruw/#comment-59066</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Seidman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 17:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While we occasionally commit grammatical gaffes that we would of course like to avoid, I generally feel bad for the people who read an article and focus solely on spelling/grammar.  Sure, we&#039;d love to have everything perfect, but per se vs. persay doesn&#039;t make or break this article.  And we&#039;re taken very seriously, trust me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While we occasionally commit grammatical gaffes that we would of course like to avoid, I generally feel bad for the people who read an article and focus solely on spelling/grammar.  Sure, we&#8217;d love to have everything perfect, but per se vs. persay doesn&#8217;t make or break this article.  And we&#8217;re taken very seriously, trust me.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 16:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you kidding Miller?  We come here for the baseball analysis, not for grammar lessons.  I don&#039;t think anybody has claimed to be english scholars here. 

I read a lot of poker theory, and the first page is always, &quot;I am a poker analyst, not a writer - so apologies first and foremost.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you kidding Miller?  We come here for the baseball analysis, not for grammar lessons.  I don&#8217;t think anybody has claimed to be english scholars here. </p>
<p>I read a lot of poker theory, and the first page is always, &#8220;I am a poker analyst, not a writer &#8211; so apologies first and foremost.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/restructuring-andruw/#comment-59053</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 14:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The restructuring of Andruw&#039;s contract makes no stipulations about who pays what if he is traded.  Any team trading for him would negotiate how much of the contract that the Dodgers would pick up.  And I would guess that they would want the dodgers to pick up nearly all of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The restructuring of Andruw&#8217;s contract makes no stipulations about who pays what if he is traded.  Any team trading for him would negotiate how much of the contract that the Dodgers would pick up.  And I would guess that they would want the dodgers to pick up nearly all of it.</p>
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		<title>By: christopher miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>christopher miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 14:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it&#039;s &quot;per se&quot; not persay.  While the analysis here is pretty good, the basic editing and grammar is mediocre at best, and sometimes outright horrid.  Please bring this side of things up to par if you wish to be taken seriously!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s &#8220;per se&#8221; not persay.  While the analysis here is pretty good, the basic editing and grammar is mediocre at best, and sometimes outright horrid.  Please bring this side of things up to par if you wish to be taken seriously!</p>
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