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		<title>By: MP4 Media Players</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/revisiting-the-lidge-trade/#comment-1286664</link>
		<dc:creator>MP4 Media Players</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2011 07:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there! I just would like to give an enormous thumbs up for the nice info you&#039;ve got here on this post. I will likely be coming again to your weblog for extra soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there! I just would like to give an enormous thumbs up for the nice info you&#8217;ve got here on this post. I will likely be coming again to your weblog for extra soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Conballs</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/revisiting-the-lidge-trade/#comment-93760</link>
		<dc:creator>Conballs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 17:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This trade will never be even.  Lidge was an integral part to getting a WS ring.  If we want to look at this in a vaccuum, then fine, the trade is close.  But the whole point is to win it all.  I&#039;m not saying Lidge was amazing last year b/c I watched a lot of his saves and a lot were shaky.  But he still got it done.  Advantage Phillies by a landslide.

Now you wanna talk extension... ehh..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This trade will never be even.  Lidge was an integral part to getting a WS ring.  If we want to look at this in a vaccuum, then fine, the trade is close.  But the whole point is to win it all.  I&#8217;m not saying Lidge was amazing last year b/c I watched a lot of his saves and a lot were shaky.  But he still got it done.  Advantage Phillies by a landslide.</p>
<p>Now you wanna talk extension&#8230; ehh..</p>
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		<title>By: bobo</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/revisiting-the-lidge-trade/#comment-93671</link>
		<dc:creator>bobo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 03:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for discussing this trade without bringing up Eric Bruntlett and his unassisted triple play against the Mets, oh nevermind</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for discussing this trade without bringing up Eric Bruntlett and his unassisted triple play against the Mets, oh nevermind</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/revisiting-the-lidge-trade/#comment-93604</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 19:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe it does though, seeing how much trouble Lidge was the concept.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it does though, seeing how much trouble Lidge was the concept.</p>
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		<title>By: CJ</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/revisiting-the-lidge-trade/#comment-93576</link>
		<dc:creator>CJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 18:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As for Bourn Supremacy.... Even if Bourn&#039;s batting average regresses somewhat from this year, I am somewhat hopeful that his slugging will continue to improve.  Bourn&#039;s ISO spiked this year to the highest it has been since his last AAA season.  The Astros believed that Bourn had the potential to develop more power in the majors, and this season may indicate they are right.  Having watched him all year,  and having seen a lot of other speed players (like Willy Taveras  and Juan Pierre), Bourn definitely drives the ball more than they typical singles hitting speester.  I don&#039;t think he will ever be a HR hitter, but I think he can continue to improve his slugging.  He is tied (with Victorino) for the NL triples lead, with 11.  He has 24 doubles so far, which is the same number as guys like Utley and Cameron.  Minute Maid is good place to hit triples, and with Bourn&#039;s speed, he should continue the triples.  However, if he continues to drive the ball like he has this season, I could see him becoming a Biggio-type doubles hitter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for Bourn Supremacy&#8230;. Even if Bourn&#8217;s batting average regresses somewhat from this year, I am somewhat hopeful that his slugging will continue to improve.  Bourn&#8217;s ISO spiked this year to the highest it has been since his last AAA season.  The Astros believed that Bourn had the potential to develop more power in the majors, and this season may indicate they are right.  Having watched him all year,  and having seen a lot of other speed players (like Willy Taveras  and Juan Pierre), Bourn definitely drives the ball more than they typical singles hitting speester.  I don&#8217;t think he will ever be a HR hitter, but I think he can continue to improve his slugging.  He is tied (with Victorino) for the NL triples lead, with 11.  He has 24 doubles so far, which is the same number as guys like Utley and Cameron.  Minute Maid is good place to hit triples, and with Bourn&#8217;s speed, he should continue the triples.  However, if he continues to drive the ball like he has this season, I could see him becoming a Biggio-type doubles hitter.</p>
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		<title>By: CJ</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/revisiting-the-lidge-trade/#comment-93571</link>
		<dc:creator>CJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 18:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lefthanded batters have an OPS of .978 against Lidge.  Lefthanders&#039; OBP against Lidge is .457.  With that kind of OBP, you wonder why lefthanders swing at any sliders.  When Lidge has had bad years in the past (like 2006), he has terrible numbers against lefthanders.  But, still, in 2006 he continued to be tough on RHPs, even though his meltdowns against lefthanders caused his overall ERA to balloon.  This season, I notice that, even though he continues to have bad platoon splits against LHBs, he also isn&#039;t geting RHBs out (.928 OPS against).   That makes me wonder if his problem is worse than just the mechanical issues of 2006.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lefthanded batters have an OPS of .978 against Lidge.  Lefthanders&#8217; OBP against Lidge is .457.  With that kind of OBP, you wonder why lefthanders swing at any sliders.  When Lidge has had bad years in the past (like 2006), he has terrible numbers against lefthanders.  But, still, in 2006 he continued to be tough on RHPs, even though his meltdowns against lefthanders caused his overall ERA to balloon.  This season, I notice that, even though he continues to have bad platoon splits against LHBs, he also isn&#8217;t geting RHBs out (.928 OPS against).   That makes me wonder if his problem is worse than just the mechanical issues of 2006.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe R</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/revisiting-the-lidge-trade/#comment-93562</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 17:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It takes a special sort of MLB pitcher to record 3 outs in the 9th inning of a 3 run game without blowing the lead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It takes a special sort of MLB pitcher to record 3 outs in the 9th inning of a 3 run game without blowing the lead.</p>
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		<title>By: don</title>
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		<dc:creator>don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 17:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think the trade itself went too badly.  Depending what you think of Victorino&#039;s wildly fluctuating UZR, Bourn was sort of redundant and he&#039;s probably not as good as he&#039;s looked this year anyway.

The early returns on the extension, though, are obviously not so great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think the trade itself went too badly.  Depending what you think of Victorino&#8217;s wildly fluctuating UZR, Bourn was sort of redundant and he&#8217;s probably not as good as he&#8217;s looked this year anyway.</p>
<p>The early returns on the extension, though, are obviously not so great.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/revisiting-the-lidge-trade/#comment-93559</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 17:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saves = srs bizness</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saves = srs bizness</p>
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		<title>By: Joe R</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/revisiting-the-lidge-trade/#comment-93557</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 17:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once on ESPN.com I commented that Joakim Soria &gt; K-Rod, which of course was followed by the &quot;LOL STAT NERDS DON&#039;T WATCH THE GAMES AND DON&#039;T SEE K-ROD PLAY&quot; crap.

Same sentiment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once on ESPN.com I commented that Joakim Soria &gt; K-Rod, which of course was followed by the &#8220;LOL STAT NERDS DON&#8217;T WATCH THE GAMES AND DON&#8217;T SEE K-ROD PLAY&#8221; crap.</p>
<p>Same sentiment.</p>
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