Comments on: Starting Rotations: Phillies and Dodgers http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/starting-rotations-phillies-and-dodgers/ Daily baseball statistical analysis and commentary Mon, 13 Feb 2012 01:27:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Eric Seidman http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/starting-rotations-phillies-and-dodgers/#comment-46075 Eric Seidman Tue, 07 Oct 2008 16:37:26 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/starting-rotations-phillies-and-dodgers/#comment-46075 Bill, you won't find a better, or more realistic, Phillies fan than myself, so I'm not underestimating their bullpen. I'm not underestimating the Dodgers, either, but rather pointing to the fact that their starters are so good that I have much more confidence in Hamels or Myers in the 7th inning than Eyre or Romero or Durbin, regardless of how good they have been. In my eyes, the Dodgers should be favorites given the fact that they have Furcal back and Manny in the lineup, one much different than their overall seasonal record would indicate. The teams are very similar, but the Dodgers 1-8 scares me much more than the Phillies. Even at a position like 1B, I'm more confident that James Loney will come through than Howard. Bill, you won’t find a better, or more realistic, Phillies fan than myself, so I’m not underestimating their bullpen. I’m not underestimating the Dodgers, either, but rather pointing to the fact that their starters are so good that I have much more confidence in Hamels or Myers in the 7th inning than Eyre or Romero or Durbin, regardless of how good they have been.

In my eyes, the Dodgers should be favorites given the fact that they have Furcal back and Manny in the lineup, one much different than their overall seasonal record would indicate. The teams are very similar, but the Dodgers 1-8 scares me much more than the Phillies. Even at a position like 1B, I’m more confident that James Loney will come through than Howard.

]]> By: Bill Baer http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/starting-rotations-phillies-and-dodgers/#comment-46016 Bill Baer Tue, 07 Oct 2008 05:51:34 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/starting-rotations-phillies-and-dodgers/#comment-46016 I'm really looking forward to the NLCS. It's been a while since I eagerly awaited the NLCS since, as a Phillies fan, I'm usually licking my wounds and looking at the free agents-to-be list. It really could go all 7 games because the teams are very similar. I think you underestimate the bullpens if I understand your Madson/Wade and "neither can get satisfied after taking a lead" comments correctly. I think fans of Madson and Wade's respective teams would be very comfortable in letting them pitch in a crucial spot, as both team's bullpens have been immaculate. The Phillies' was a bit better (but I like the Dodgers' slightly more overall) and the two were #1 and 2 in the NL in bullpen ERA. I'm working with John Brattain at The Hardball Times on a preview for the series (should be up either Tues. or Wed. morning) and I had some trouble finding reasons why either team should be favorites (I had to find reasons why the Phillies will win). It should be dead even. Vegas currently has the Phillies at -165 but I think that's very generous and expect it to fall to around -110 by the time Thursday afternoon rolls around. I’m really looking forward to the NLCS. It’s been a while since I eagerly awaited the NLCS since, as a Phillies fan, I’m usually licking my wounds and looking at the free agents-to-be list. It really could go all 7 games because the teams are very similar.

I think you underestimate the bullpens if I understand your Madson/Wade and “neither can get satisfied after taking a lead” comments correctly. I think fans of Madson and Wade’s respective teams would be very comfortable in letting them pitch in a crucial spot, as both team’s bullpens have been immaculate. The Phillies’ was a bit better (but I like the Dodgers’ slightly more overall) and the two were #1 and 2 in the NL in bullpen ERA.

I’m working with John Brattain at The Hardball Times on a preview for the series (should be up either Tues. or Wed. morning) and I had some trouble finding reasons why either team should be favorites (I had to find reasons why the Phillies will win). It should be dead even. Vegas currently has the Phillies at -165 but I think that’s very generous and expect it to fall to around -110 by the time Thursday afternoon rolls around.

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