Comments on: The Edwin Jackson/Matt Joyce trade

By: Gregory Charles

Gregory Charles — Fri, 04 Jun 2010 02:14:22 +0000

Instant replay now!

By: Kenyg54

Kenyg54 — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 00:21:54 +0000

Edwi Jackson is an All-star…..not that bad a trade

By: AT

AT — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 19:18:49 +0000

Wow, this is bad. First of all the Rays stated from day one that Joyce was going to be a platoon guy. That alone made it questionable to give up a young arm like Edwin Jackson right from the start.

This is one of the things I find funny about the stat/numbers revolution. The age old scouting problems are still there. The desire to share opinions and the need to be right about them still clouds everything

AT
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By: Eric Cioe

Eric Cioe — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 05:38:13 +0000

Look at FIP and I’ll bet it’s closer than you think.

I think the only AL 1-2 that’s even close is Beckett/Lester, and they’re not that close.

By: Gibran

Gibran — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 21:02:14 +0000

Um, no.
Today’s best 1-2 in baseball is Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain.
Verlander and Jackson not even close to either one.

By: Sean

Sean — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 18:53:11 +0000

Much better than the Jason Marquis selection on the NL side

By: Nick

Nick — Sun, 05 Jul 2009 18:44:36 +0000

Ridiculously bad All-Star selection.

By: Eric Cioe

Eric Cioe — Mon, 08 Jun 2009 14:48:42 +0000

This is a case where the numbers indicated a questionable trade. But the Tigers needed someone to munch up innings. That’s why they got him. And then, someone, perhaps Rick Knapp, saw something that they thought could fix his command. I’m not sure if his foot is landing differently now, like Randy Johnson’s was after his meeting with Nolan Ryan, or if it’s something else, but he’s improved a good deal and there is no question that he’s taken the step people have waited years for him to take. His BABIP is low at around .250, but his peripherals still indicate an ERA a shade over 3.00, which is excellent.

Verlander and Jackson are shaping up to be the best 1-2 the AL has had for a while. In the NL, there was Webb-Haren last year, but Verlander-Jackson is doing better than that. Best 1-2 since Johnson-Schilling? Maybe.

By: Rudolph

Rudolph — Mon, 08 Jun 2009 07:50:12 +0000

Eat your words, this guy is pitching like an ace.

By: Nick

Nick — Mon, 08 Jun 2009 06:31:58 +0000

His peripheral numbers are too good at this point to expect a sudden drop-off in production. His FIP is 3.11, so even if he slides to that point, he’ll be pitching at an ace level.

However, at the time, Tampa had way more pitchers than outfielders. They still do, actually. So the deal made sense. And, considering the articles written at the time about the deal, it’s not like very many people expected Jackson to improve like he has. I think all that happened was, Rick Knapp and the Tigers staff found a way to get him to realize his potential better than the Tampa staff did.