<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
	xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd"
xmlns:rawvoice="http://www.rawvoice.com/rawvoiceRssModule/"
	>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: The New Inefficiency?</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/the-new-inefficiency/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/the-new-inefficiency/</link>
	<description>Daily baseball statistical analysis and commentary</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:38:57 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/the-new-inefficiency/#comment-127229</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 22:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=15273#comment-127229</guid>
		<description>I think we need a new metric.  WAG (Wins Above Graybeard).  Because it seems like the free agent veterans are going for $1M-$2M for the first win, then $4M-$5M for each additional win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we need a new metric.  WAG (Wins Above Graybeard).  Because it seems like the free agent veterans are going for $1M-$2M for the first win, then $4M-$5M for each additional win.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/the-new-inefficiency/#comment-126599</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 10:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=15273#comment-126599</guid>
		<description>I don&#039;t think Garciaparra has retired (yet).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think Garciaparra has retired (yet).</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: pounded clown</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/the-new-inefficiency/#comment-126438</link>
		<dc:creator>pounded clown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 10:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=15273#comment-126438</guid>
		<description>probably enough to cryogenically persevre the population of Marfa, Texas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>probably enough to cryogenically persevre the population of Marfa, Texas</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: pounded clown</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/the-new-inefficiency/#comment-126436</link>
		<dc:creator>pounded clown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 10:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=15273#comment-126436</guid>
		<description>So is that why I have to suffer another nerve racking season of Jamie Moyer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So is that why I have to suffer another nerve racking season of Jamie Moyer.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: pounded clown</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/the-new-inefficiency/#comment-126433</link>
		<dc:creator>pounded clown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 10:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=15273#comment-126433</guid>
		<description>one of these days when baseball embraces the principles of modern sports training and by this I mean not doing what baseball does now which is  simply cherrypicking new exercises and conditioning techiques to add to age old, defective training methodologies.  It&#039;s like putting a fresh coat of paint on something without fixing the points of failure of the old paint.  Anyway, if this happens and teams understand how everday play of a speed/technical sport like baseball effects the central nervous system they would ideally rest their players more frequently.  That said the utility man would be in high demand.  Things in baseball however change at a more geological rate relative to other sports, so I might not see the change in my lifetime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>one of these days when baseball embraces the principles of modern sports training and by this I mean not doing what baseball does now which is  simply cherrypicking new exercises and conditioning techiques to add to age old, defective training methodologies.  It&#8217;s like putting a fresh coat of paint on something without fixing the points of failure of the old paint.  Anyway, if this happens and teams understand how everday play of a speed/technical sport like baseball effects the central nervous system they would ideally rest their players more frequently.  That said the utility man would be in high demand.  Things in baseball however change at a more geological rate relative to other sports, so I might not see the change in my lifetime.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Dustin</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/the-new-inefficiency/#comment-126400</link>
		<dc:creator>Dustin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 07:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=15273#comment-126400</guid>
		<description>&quot;isn’t valuing age (relative to production potential) something of a very inexact science?&quot;

Exactly.  This is why, when Beane was already clearly sensing the lack of market for older players developing in the coincidence of last year&#039;s economy and baseball free agent trends, he struck out.  He signed Jason Giambi, Orlando Cabrera, and Nomar Garciaparra, but all three were, to different degrees, ineffective.  Garciaparra succumbed to injury again, and eventually retired.  Giambi was traded to be simply a bench player (and performed well in that limited role).  Cabrera seemed to help the Twins after being traded, but he&#039;s now still on the market because of declining defense (and not such a hot bat either).  So you might strike gold, but as others have said above, it&#039;s different from measurable or observable skills and stats like OBP, walk rate, UZR/other defensive metrics, etc.  Age and its effects on ability can&#039;t be uniformly quantified.  Of course, we&#039;re not talking about age itself as the inefficiently valued commodity.  But I&#039;m not so sure teams really are being overcautious.  Surely in some cases, they are, but I think part of it is just the economy and the fact that part of what usually declines with age is defensive ability, which coincides with the move in recent years toward the valuation of defense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;isn’t valuing age (relative to production potential) something of a very inexact science?&#8221;</p>
<p>Exactly.  This is why, when Beane was already clearly sensing the lack of market for older players developing in the coincidence of last year&#8217;s economy and baseball free agent trends, he struck out.  He signed Jason Giambi, Orlando Cabrera, and Nomar Garciaparra, but all three were, to different degrees, ineffective.  Garciaparra succumbed to injury again, and eventually retired.  Giambi was traded to be simply a bench player (and performed well in that limited role).  Cabrera seemed to help the Twins after being traded, but he&#8217;s now still on the market because of declining defense (and not such a hot bat either).  So you might strike gold, but as others have said above, it&#8217;s different from measurable or observable skills and stats like OBP, walk rate, UZR/other defensive metrics, etc.  Age and its effects on ability can&#8217;t be uniformly quantified.  Of course, we&#8217;re not talking about age itself as the inefficiently valued commodity.  But I&#8217;m not so sure teams really are being overcautious.  Surely in some cases, they are, but I think part of it is just the economy and the fact that part of what usually declines with age is defensive ability, which coincides with the move in recent years toward the valuation of defense.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Circlechange11</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/the-new-inefficiency/#comment-126299</link>
		<dc:creator>Circlechange11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 22:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=15273#comment-126299</guid>
		<description>Sorry William I hit thumbs down on my iPhone instead of thumbs up.

The media has this bad habit of building guys up and then tearing them down got the very same behavior.

They&#039;ll praise a player for saying they&#039;ll play until they pull the unifo off of them ... And then rip em for when they carry out that promise.

They also will say that a guy should retire when they can &quot;finish on top&quot; and then say they should keep playing as long as they can produce, sometimes even saying they &quot;owe it to the fans&quot;.

It must be fun to play God in other peoples&#039; lives ... Another habit the media/fans seem to have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry William I hit thumbs down on my iPhone instead of thumbs up.</p>
<p>The media has this bad habit of building guys up and then tearing them down got the very same behavior.</p>
<p>They&#8217;ll praise a player for saying they&#8217;ll play until they pull the unifo off of them &#8230; And then rip em for when they carry out that promise.</p>
<p>They also will say that a guy should retire when they can &#8220;finish on top&#8221; and then say they should keep playing as long as they can produce, sometimes even saying they &#8220;owe it to the fans&#8221;.</p>
<p>It must be fun to play God in other peoples&#8217; lives &#8230; Another habit the media/fans seem to have.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Moseph</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/the-new-inefficiency/#comment-126259</link>
		<dc:creator>Moseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 20:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=15273#comment-126259</guid>
		<description>It&#039;s about time an article on this obvious subject was written.  I was thinking about this last offseason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s about time an article on this obvious subject was written.  I was thinking about this last offseason.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/the-new-inefficiency/#comment-126250</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 20:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=15273#comment-126250</guid>
		<description>I think teams are willing to pay older play who can produce, but are wising up to the fact that they have been paying older players more than they are worth for years based on their &quot;name&quot;. When they look at the production and overall value to the organization, I think they are finding average to above average &quot;name&quot; players do not put many more fans in the seats, and hence are not worth the premium they must pay in order to sign them. A good example is Bobby Abreau..Good player, productive, but not many people are going to buy a ticket to see the Angels so they can watch Bobby Abreau swing the bat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think teams are willing to pay older play who can produce, but are wising up to the fact that they have been paying older players more than they are worth for years based on their &#8220;name&#8221;. When they look at the production and overall value to the organization, I think they are finding average to above average &#8220;name&#8221; players do not put many more fans in the seats, and hence are not worth the premium they must pay in order to sign them. A good example is Bobby Abreau..Good player, productive, but not many people are going to buy a ticket to see the Angels so they can watch Bobby Abreau swing the bat.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/the-new-inefficiency/#comment-126192</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 18:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=15273#comment-126192</guid>
		<description>Just a minor fact correction:  Edmonds announced his desire to return at Tony&#039;s Animal Rescue Foundation concert at Chaifetz Arena; not at the Cardinals Winter Warm-Up or FanFest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a minor fact correction:  Edmonds announced his desire to return at Tony&#8217;s Animal Rescue Foundation concert at Chaifetz Arena; not at the Cardinals Winter Warm-Up or FanFest.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

