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	<title>Comments on: The Underheralded Rookie Pitchers</title>
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		<title>By: luke</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/the-underheralded-rookie-pitchers/#comment-100436</link>
		<dc:creator>luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 16:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is David Robertson a rookie?  He walks a few too many, but man oh man does he strike &#039;em out too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is David Robertson a rookie?  He walks a few too many, but man oh man does he strike &#8216;em out too.</p>
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		<title>By: MMfan09</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/the-underheralded-rookie-pitchers/#comment-100434</link>
		<dc:creator>MMfan09</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 16:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That Harden deal doesnt look so great.

THough people forget how injured he had been, despite elite talent. From 06-08 he pitched as many starts 30+ as he has done all of 09. A&#039;s got 4 cost controlled not so great players but they took that gamble. Gallagher ended up being traded for hairston. murton traded for wimberly. Patterson has had a nice september and donaldson is a solid prospect. 

They passed on signing blanton long term multiple times. Tried to trade him in 07, to dodgers but they declined. Outman looked like a great find, power lefty before TJ surgery, cardenas will be a solid above avg player. Spencer has a good yr in AA. 

Swisher deal-surprisingly kenny williams looks the worst out of this, with swisher&#039;s better 09. Stats doesnt tell everything, but the &quot;throw in&quot;  ryan sweeney has a 3.8 WAR. Gio is inconsistent despite great stuff, DLS who knows, he&#039;s a wildcard</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That Harden deal doesnt look so great.</p>
<p>THough people forget how injured he had been, despite elite talent. From 06-08 he pitched as many starts 30+ as he has done all of 09. A&#8217;s got 4 cost controlled not so great players but they took that gamble. Gallagher ended up being traded for hairston. murton traded for wimberly. Patterson has had a nice september and donaldson is a solid prospect. </p>
<p>They passed on signing blanton long term multiple times. Tried to trade him in 07, to dodgers but they declined. Outman looked like a great find, power lefty before TJ surgery, cardenas will be a solid above avg player. Spencer has a good yr in AA. </p>
<p>Swisher deal-surprisingly kenny williams looks the worst out of this, with swisher&#8217;s better 09. Stats doesnt tell everything, but the &#8220;throw in&#8221;  ryan sweeney has a 3.8 WAR. Gio is inconsistent despite great stuff, DLS who knows, he&#8217;s a wildcard</p>
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		<title>By: Joe R</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/the-underheralded-rookie-pitchers/#comment-100409</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The funny thing about Anderson? Beane-haters will still find a way to bitch.

Once on Yahoo answers I got hit by a double dose of idiocy on Beane. One guy asking how good the A&#039;s would be if they still had Harden, Hudson, Mulder, Zito, and Haren, ignoring 1) how expensive they are, 2) how hurt Harden and Hudson have been, 3) How mediocre Zito has been, 4) How nothing Mulder has been, and 5) How they traded Mulder to acquire Haren.

In case this wasn&#039;t enough, another guy brought up how it was stupid they traded Blanton. Because, you know, who wants a cost controlled Josh Outman (once he comes back) and the future at second base in Adrian Cardenas when you can have a decent, 29 in December year old #3 starter?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The funny thing about Anderson? Beane-haters will still find a way to bitch.</p>
<p>Once on Yahoo answers I got hit by a double dose of idiocy on Beane. One guy asking how good the A&#8217;s would be if they still had Harden, Hudson, Mulder, Zito, and Haren, ignoring 1) how expensive they are, 2) how hurt Harden and Hudson have been, 3) How mediocre Zito has been, 4) How nothing Mulder has been, and 5) How they traded Mulder to acquire Haren.</p>
<p>In case this wasn&#8217;t enough, another guy brought up how it was stupid they traded Blanton. Because, you know, who wants a cost controlled Josh Outman (once he comes back) and the future at second base in Adrian Cardenas when you can have a decent, 29 in December year old #3 starter?</p>
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		<title>By: MMfan09</title>
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		<dc:creator>MMfan09</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 08:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Henry Rodrguez has barely pitched this sept, but tonight 20 pitches were 99-100mph, if he ever improves his control. pairing him w/ bailey could be an interesting combo in oakland</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Henry Rodrguez has barely pitched this sept, but tonight 20 pitches were 99-100mph, if he ever improves his control. pairing him w/ bailey could be an interesting combo in oakland</p>
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		<title>By: Christian Seehausen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christian Seehausen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 05:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, I was just about to mention Norris.  His numbers were dragged down by a few bad starts in a row, but then he made the adjustment and was doing well again.  Norris&#039; K/9 has been very good at about a strikeout per inning.  I don&#039;t expect him to blow people away next season but I think he will be a productive middle of the rotation guy.  If he can add a good curve or something and work on his command a little, he could be ace material.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, I was just about to mention Norris.  His numbers were dragged down by a few bad starts in a row, but then he made the adjustment and was doing well again.  Norris&#8217; K/9 has been very good at about a strikeout per inning.  I don&#8217;t expect him to blow people away next season but I think he will be a productive middle of the rotation guy.  If he can add a good curve or something and work on his command a little, he could be ace material.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 03:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed...he was having a great season</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed&#8230;he was having a great season</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 03:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well noone in baseball has as many K&#039;s as Verlander this year...

I just wanted to point out that hardly anyone takes into account how little experience Porcello has..

And also to point out that Porcello and the Tigers are purposely having Porcello try and get ground balls and not K&#039;s... as someone who watches every Tiger game, I noticed that Everett ALWAYS mans SS when Porcello plays, and that Santiago plays only when others are pitching...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well noone in baseball has as many K&#8217;s as Verlander this year&#8230;</p>
<p>I just wanted to point out that hardly anyone takes into account how little experience Porcello has..</p>
<p>And also to point out that Porcello and the Tigers are purposely having Porcello try and get ground balls and not K&#8217;s&#8230; as someone who watches every Tiger game, I noticed that Everett ALWAYS mans SS when Porcello plays, and that Santiago plays only when others are pitching&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: wobatus</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/the-underheralded-rookie-pitchers/#comment-100354</link>
		<dc:creator>wobatus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 03:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Verlander averaged 6 a game.  Porcello 4.4.  That&#039;s a pretty big difference.  Yes, Porcello is much younger, and he is pretty good and good be great, but I doubt his k rate will ever be like Verlander&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Verlander averaged 6 a game.  Porcello 4.4.  That&#8217;s a pretty big difference.  Yes, Porcello is much younger, and he is pretty good and good be great, but I doubt his k rate will ever be like Verlander&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: wobatus</title>
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		<dc:creator>wobatus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 03:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>too bad Zim got hurt.  He looked special.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>too bad Zim got hurt.  He looked special.</p>
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		<title>By: wobatus</title>
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		<dc:creator>wobatus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 03:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loved those k rates in the minors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loved those k rates in the minors.</p>
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