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	<title>Comments on: Three True Outcome Leaders 2007-2009 (Corrected)</title>
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		<title>By: Alireza</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/three-true-outcome-leaders-2007-2009/#comment-128194</link>
		<dc:creator>Alireza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 22:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I realize this site publishes UZR, but it isn&#039;t the only measure of defense.  Pena has put up very nice Plus/Minus scores and is generally considered at least above average.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I realize this site publishes UZR, but it isn&#8217;t the only measure of defense.  Pena has put up very nice Plus/Minus scores and is generally considered at least above average.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike K.</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/three-true-outcome-leaders-2007-2009/#comment-123625</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 04:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ryan Howard? 46.3%.

So close.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan Howard? 46.3%.</p>
<p>So close.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Klaassen</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/three-true-outcome-leaders-2007-2009/#comment-122770</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Klaassen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 16:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No doubt -- Dunn&#039;s a very good hitter. If he&#039;s would DH only, I bet he&#039;s even above average next season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No doubt &#8212; Dunn&#8217;s a very good hitter. If he&#8217;s would DH only, I bet he&#8217;s even above average next season.</p>
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		<title>By: JoeR43</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/three-true-outcome-leaders-2007-2009/#comment-122750</link>
		<dc:creator>JoeR43</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 14:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yankees refer to themselves as a universe.

Because of the ongoing battle of arrogance between Red Sox and Yankee fans, the Yankees couldn&#039;t be satisfied with just being a Nation like the Red Sox. They have to be a whole damn universe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yankees refer to themselves as a universe.</p>
<p>Because of the ongoing battle of arrogance between Red Sox and Yankee fans, the Yankees couldn&#8217;t be satisfied with just being a Nation like the Red Sox. They have to be a whole damn universe.</p>
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		<title>By: JoeR43</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/three-true-outcome-leaders-2007-2009/#comment-122748</link>
		<dc:creator>JoeR43</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 14:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like how they call Deer a &quot;notorious free swinger&quot; on wikipedia.

Actually, no I don&#039;t. He wasn&#039;t a free swinger. His contact just sucked. He still had a 92 OPS+ the year he hit .179.

Obviously only so much praise to give a .220/.324/.442 career hitter, but it&#039;s fun to show that Juan Pierre and his .301 BA has been way less valuable an offensive player than Rob Deer (.547 OWn% vs. .482 OWn%, a team of 9 Rob Deer&#039;s on offense can be expected to win 10-11 more games a season than the same team w/ 9 Juan Pierre&#039;s on offense).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like how they call Deer a &#8220;notorious free swinger&#8221; on wikipedia.</p>
<p>Actually, no I don&#8217;t. He wasn&#8217;t a free swinger. His contact just sucked. He still had a 92 OPS+ the year he hit .179.</p>
<p>Obviously only so much praise to give a .220/.324/.442 career hitter, but it&#8217;s fun to show that Juan Pierre and his .301 BA has been way less valuable an offensive player than Rob Deer (.547 OWn% vs. .482 OWn%, a team of 9 Rob Deer&#8217;s on offense can be expected to win 10-11 more games a season than the same team w/ 9 Juan Pierre&#8217;s on offense).</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin S.</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/three-true-outcome-leaders-2007-2009/#comment-122692</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 07:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dunn&#039;s worth defending.  Dunn would be awesome if he was used properly.  He gains like two and a half wins if he plays in the AL and doesn&#039;t touch a glove next year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dunn&#8217;s worth defending.  Dunn would be awesome if he was used properly.  He gains like two and a half wins if he plays in the AL and doesn&#8217;t touch a glove next year.</p>
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		<title>By: crix</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/three-true-outcome-leaders-2007-2009/#comment-122689</link>
		<dc:creator>crix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 07:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Either way, NYN or NYM you should still get New York Mets. I know it&#039;s been explained but, N=National A=American. The only Nation I know of is Red Sox Nation. What else would &quot;n&quot; stand for? C&#039;mon brotha, get wit da program haha. I&#039;m not trying to hammer ya but, you seem to think it&#039;s pertinent, hense my response. I do however agree that CHW, CHC, NYY, NYM should be used. (To prevent confusion.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Either way, NYN or NYM you should still get New York Mets. I know it&#8217;s been explained but, N=National A=American. The only Nation I know of is Red Sox Nation. What else would &#8220;n&#8221; stand for? C&#8217;mon brotha, get wit da program haha. I&#8217;m not trying to hammer ya but, you seem to think it&#8217;s pertinent, hense my response. I do however agree that CHW, CHC, NYY, NYM should be used. (To prevent confusion.)</p>
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		<title>By: David MVP Eckstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>David MVP Eckstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 06:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahhhhhh. Makes sense.

Side question then: why classify like this? I noticed this in the xBABIP calc. as well, actually. Why not use CHW, CHC, NYM, NYY, etc etc&gt;. It seems slightly more &quot;universal&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahhhhhh. Makes sense.</p>
<p>Side question then: why classify like this? I noticed this in the xBABIP calc. as well, actually. Why not use CHW, CHC, NYM, NYY, etc etc&gt;. It seems slightly more &#8220;universal&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Klaassen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Klaassen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 06:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;NYN&quot; is the abbreviation for the Mets used by most databases, etc. &quot;NYA&quot; is for the Yankees. &quot;CHA&quot; is for the White Sox, &quot;CHN&quot; is for the Cubs, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;NYN&#8221; is the abbreviation for the Mets used by most databases, etc. &#8220;NYA&#8221; is for the Yankees. &#8220;CHA&#8221; is for the White Sox, &#8220;CHN&#8221; is for the Cubs, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: David MVP Eckstein</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/three-true-outcome-leaders-2007-2009/#comment-122664</link>
		<dc:creator>David MVP Eckstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 04:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is &quot;NYN&quot; intended as NYM or short for New York Nation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is &#8220;NYN&#8221; intended as NYM or short for New York Nation?</p>
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